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[News] Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support)ANN.lu
Posted on 30-Sep-2004 17:55 GMT by Yellow Dog48 comments
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The Linux support for Pegasos is increasing even more!

Loveland, Colorado -- 29 September 2004 -- Terra Soft Solutions(R), Inc., the leading developer of integrated PowerPC Linux solutions, is pleased to announce release of Yellow Dog Linux(TM) v4.0.

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/news/2004/2004-09-29.shtml The final Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 CD-Rs have been created and will today be delivered to a CD production facility for glass mastering and replication. While shipping product will be available in approximately two weeks, Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 is immediately available through YDL.net Enhanced accounts.

Six months in development, Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 is built upon Fedora Core 2, offering both KDE 3.3 and GNOME 2.6.0 desktops with an all new presentation for both the Installer and post-installed desktop environment. Included apps are OpenOffice 1.1.1, Rhythmbox 0.8.3, Mozilla 1.7 and development tools glibc 2.3.3 and gcc 3.3.3 built upon the 32-bit kernel 2.6.8.

Terra Soft's lead engineer Owen Stampflee offers, "This development effort was perhaps the most challenging in the history of Terra Soft with a completely new code foundation, several mid-stream Apple product releases and revisions, and our own desire to achieve a product better than we have offered before driving us week after week. Our drive for excellence and the hard work of the OSS community has resulted in the best hardware support in the history of YDL."

Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 offers 32-bit support for USB-G3s, G4s, G5 Power Macs, and through the Freescale Board Support Package, Genesi Pegasos II ATX boards. Expanded USB support includes many cameras, printers, adapters, and storage devices. FireWire support is now built-in with bootable FireWire made possible through manual configuration. Dual-head monitor support too now available for PowerBooks and G4/G5 Power Macs. Wireless connectivity is immediately available through the Netgear WG511 54Mb PCMCIA card with D-Link and Linksys USB card support in final stages of testing. Mac-On-Linux offers the ability to run Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X and now offers automatic network configuration.

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Posted by Anonymous on 30-Sep-2004 16:52 GMT
"Freescale Board Support Package" ~ FreeBSP ;-)
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Posted by Anonymous on 30-Sep-2004 19:15 GMT
Terrasoft wasn´t that the company that was going to sell Terons????
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Posted by Anonymous on 30-Sep-2004 19:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
maybe they understood the big error and changed their mind! ;-)

However it was MAI itself to sell the Teron boards..
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Posted by magnetic on 30-Sep-2004 21:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Yes, that is exactly right - Terrrasoft was partnered with MAI for a minute there but I dont think they were "feeling" the Teron tech..


On A positive note, this is a great step for Genesi and the Pegasos. The Official YDL support is fantastic.

magnetic
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 04:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (magnetic):
Yes, official support is good. That's why I wouldn't buy a Pegasos, official support is probably the least of their priorities.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Oct-2004 04:57 GMT
Genesi Pegasos II Systems to Enable Linux Workshop at Freescale SNDF

SMART NETWORKS DEVELOPER FORUM, FRANKFURT, GERMANY - SEPT. 30, 2004 - Genesi Open Desktop Workstations based on the Pegasos II were used during a hands-on Linux workshop the last day of Freescale's Smart Networks Developer Forum Europe (SNDF Europe). The PowerPC® architecture, with the AltiVec SIMD engine, is an excellent alternate architecture for Linux applications, and the Genesi Pegasos II system comes equipped with the MPC7447 PowerPC processor from Freescale and the Marvell Discovery II northbridge.

"As a member of our Smart Networks Alliance Program, Genesi is a key enabler of Linux development on the PowerPC architecture. We want to encourage developers to leverage the PowerPC architecture for their Linux applications, as this architecture can provide both performance and cost benefits for system designs," said Glenn Beck, Director of Marketing, Computer Platform Division, Networking and Computing Systems Group, Freescale Semiconductor, Inc.

"We are pleased to see the success of the Pegasos platform," added Viren Shah, Product Line Manager for Marvell's System Controllers. "The Pegasos platform, based on Marvell's advanced Discovery architecture, provides significant time to market advantages to our customers."

The machines were provided with a choice of operating systems including Gentoo, Crux, Yellow Dog and Debian GNU/Linux. Also included was MorphOS, a lightweight fully featured non-UNIX based Amiga-compatible operating system. All developers who participated in the Linux workshop were given an Open Desktop Workstation.

SNDF Europe was held September 27th-30th at the Sheraton Frankfurt Hotel & Towers, Frankfurt Airport, Germany.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Oct-2004 04:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Sammy Nordström):
???

Huh?

:-?
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Posted by JoannaK on 01-Oct-2004 06:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Nah.. it's just Sammy .. He's not even expected to make sense :)
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Posted by ikir on 01-Oct-2004 06:29 GMT
It is a very good news! I hope to have a distro wich support also my A1 officially.

I like YDL! :-)
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 06:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Wow... People has even started to forget what the Pegasos was about before Thendic got into the picture... Well, atleast for me as an Amiga enthusiast, the Pegasos and MorphOS is still the "unofficial" alternative. It's the only thing that makes the platform relevant for Amiga users to begin with, now isn't it?

Naturally, I find it rather ironic when Pegasos supporters says it's good to have official support, which is why I said what I said. See?
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Posted by Janne on 01-Oct-2004 07:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Sammy Nordström):
Sammy, this is good news. Why be a party pooper?
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 01-Oct-2004 08:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Sammy Nordström):
I don't think anyone has rejected "official" support - like this. I guess you just link anything up to Amiga Inc which in this case would mean: "The Pegasos supporters said they didn't need Amiga Inc's blessing, so I find it ironic that they now say that it's good that Pegasos is supported by YDL". Two different things, of course.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it won't make a difference :)
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 09:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but it won't make a difference :)

Ok.

"The Pegasos supporters said they didn't need official Amiga support, so I find it ironic that they now say that it's good that the Pegasos has recieved YDL's official blessing".
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Janne):
>Why be a party pooper?

Because I wasn't invited? :-P
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 01-Oct-2004 09:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Sammy Nordström):
Ok,

Official support from Amiga Inc. isn't a necessity - It would be nice and I don't think that there are many that deny that.

So I don't see the irony like you do :)
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 09:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Ok, maybe it's not the correct term for this case, perhaps I should just say "funny" (not as in comedy, mind you). I mean, the Pegasos is the unofficial Amiga alternative but at the same time the official Yellow Dog Linux platform. I don't know what you think, but I'd say the Pegasos' Amiga connection is stretching...
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Oct-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Sammy Nordström):
I'd say you're simply not making any sense. Again.

There might possibly be some kind of vague and weak connection between your posts here and the topic at hand, under the condition that you're confusing hardware and software. Otherwise... Sheesh.
Maybe you should post with a standard disclaimer: "you must be severely confused to make any sense out of this".

Now shoo.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 01-Oct-2004 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Sammy Nordström):
> the Pegasos and MorphOS is still the "unofficial" alternative.

The Pegasos is the only official *MorphOS* alternative though! :-P


> It's the only thing that makes the platform relevant for Amiga users to begin
> with, now isn't it?

What, being official? No, that's of no importance at all, the *Amiga compatibility* is! And to be honest, in this area MorphOS actually beats the crap out of "the official" solution, at least for now! And if this isn't a subject to change in a close future, I'm sorry, but then you can keep your "officiality"!

(And Sammy, the only way you can run MorphOS is by buying a Pegasos, the official MorphOS alternative! MorphOS won't run on AmigaOne! ;-))

The fact that the Pegasos is well supported by other OS's (it runs the latest Linux *fine*!) is not only a great bonus to us Pegasos owners, it's also a source of income for Genesi; a chance to collect resources that hopefully will make the future of the Pegasos more stable ...
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Posted by Ron on 01-Oct-2004 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Anonymous):
Sammy has got a point though, hasn't he...
The reason for discussing the Pegasos on THIS forum is the hope that it will some day be able to run an Amiga OS. It still has no support from Amiga, but now has the support of a Linux distribution. Good news for people -like me- considering dropping the AMIGA idea and moving over to Linux.
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (takemehomegrandma):
>> the Pegasos and MorphOS is still the "unofficial" alternative.
>
>The Pegasos is the only official *MorphOS* alternative though! :-P

Sure, but this discussion really isn't about MorphOS, now is it?

>> It's the only thing that makes the platform relevant for Amiga users to
>> begin with, now isn't it?
>
>What, being official?

No, beeing UNofficial.

>No, that's of no importance at all, the *Amiga compatibility* is!

Which is what makes it an unofficial alternative, isn't it?

>And to be honest, in this area MorphOS actually beats the crap out of "the
>official" solution, at least for now!

No. If an AmigaOS application would for some reason not function properly on AmigaOS, then it's because the application has poor AmigaOS compatibility, not because AmigaOS lacks AmigaOS compatibility. You make software for an OS, not the other way around.

However, I guess you are refering to certain incompatibilities between different versions of the AmigaOS, which has been the case for almost every new release of the AmigaOS, especially when it has been adapted to work with new hardware. Nothing, including MorphOS, beats the compatibility of running software on the hardware and OS it was intended for. AmigaOS3.x is the best OS for running AmigaOS3.x applications and AmigaOS4.0 is the best OS for running AmigaOS4.0 applications. Both operating systems are official and MorphOS will never be able to be as compatible, period.

>And if this isn't a subject to change in a close future, I'm sorry, but then
>you can keep your "officiality"!

If you think there is nothing more than just a name or a label to beeing official, then I honestly feel sorry for you. For me, beeing official is about setting an industry standard. Pretty much like Genesi is trying to do with their Open Desktop Workstation definition, an "open" hardware standard for Pegasos computers from bPlan only.

>(And Sammy, the only way you can run MorphOS is by buying a Pegasos, the
>official MorphOS alternative! MorphOS won't run on AmigaOne! ;-))

What happened to the Blizzard/Cyberstorm version?

>The fact that the Pegasos is well supported by other OS's (it runs the latest
>Linux *fine*!) is not only a great bonus to us Pegasos owners, it's also a
>source of income for Genesi; a chance to collect resources that hopefully will
>make the future of the Pegasos more stable ...

Well, hardware is a commodity to me. I'll buy whatever hardware suits the OS and applications I intend to use, not the other way around.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 01-Oct-2004 11:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Ron):
> Sammy has got a point though, hasn't he...

If so, I completely fail to see it! ;-)

> The reason for discussing the Pegasos on THIS forum is the hope that it will
> some day be able to run an Amiga OS.

I would dare to claim that *the name* of the OS is of less importance to the Pegasos owners of today in this community, nor whether it's official or not. If the unofficial solution is performing better, is actually working, is cheaper, is actually available for purchase *now* if you want to, is more Amiga compatible, has better developer support among todays developers, then who wants to be "official"?

The future is not something static, things are always a subject to change. In the long run, *the best* solution, the most *widely spread* solution, and the solution with the *best support* among developers and users will *set the standard*, thus becoming the future "official" solution (in quotation marks meaning the solution that almost everyone will use), which *not necessarily* will be the branded one!

> It still has no support from Amiga

Really, who cares?

> but now has the support of a Linux distribution.

Several, actually ...

> Good news for people -like me- considering dropping the AMIGA idea and moving
> over to Linux.

If you consider dropping the Amiga, you will probably still feel right at home with MorphOS. Personally, I'm not *that* interested in Linux myself, but one of my Pegasos computers (a Peg2 G3) is used as a server (totally silent!), and for that purpose the Linux is very good (Gentoo rulez! ;-)).

But MorphOS is what interests me the most ...
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 11:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (takemehomegrandma):
Who said "the name" was important for the individual? Of course it's not important for you or me in our daily computer activities. A brand has no practical function what so ever for the individual consumer besides giving an identity for the product. However, when you're taking an active interest in trying to create a business and/or a market for a specific computer platform, it is crucial to have a strong brand name and a big plus if it already has world wide recognition value, as with the case of the Amiga brand. As an Amiga enthusiasts, I want what's best for the Amiga market so that it may come alive again and hopefully even grow into a profitable business. An alternative computer platform that is competing for the Amiga user base by providing us with backwards compatibility for a convinient transition to their new computer platform is a counter productive effort, IMO.
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Oct-2004 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (takemehomegrandma):
BTW...

>In the long run, *the best* solution, the most *widely spread* solution, and
>the solution with the *best support* among developers and users will *set the
>standard*, thus becoming the future "official" solution (in quotation marks
>meaning the solution that almost everyone will use), which *not necessarily*
>will be the branded one!

Which is the "best" solution is rather subjective and the most "widely spread" solution is Windows. Which solution has the best support among developers is for the developers to decide, which again is rather subjective, while standards is only possible for software and hardware developers to create. Standards can be encouraged by users at the most, but not until it has been created.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Oct-2004 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Sammy Nordström):
Please ban Sammy Nerdström , it's the king of clueless, amitards and brainless (equally to amitards but more generic)...

Amiga brand worry a shit actually, isn't the name of the past, most of people remember amiga as a console gaming... it's sad but is the reality...

Both solutions sucks actually for user and serious applications, but MorphOS seems be better than OS4, time will telll, I'm still prefer to wait...
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Posted by Seehund on 01-Oct-2004 15:46 GMT
Will YDL be shipped with each Pegasos board now?

Seems like Terrasoft sales of Pegasoses + YDL could be a plausible scenario, since TSS has tried to stroll down the non-Apple lane before. OTOH, they could feel that they were burned too badly that time to try again.
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Posted by Gregg on 01-Oct-2004 16:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Seehund):
TSS has tried to stroll down the non-Apple lane before.

Whatever could you be referring to?

Thinks : You know when somebody smacks you in the mouth, and you can taste the blood? It's that sort of taste, I think...

Gregg
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Posted by JoannaK on 01-Oct-2004 16:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Seehund):
TSS has burned bridges for Genesi long time ago (late 2002?).. At that time TSS was supposed to sell Pegasos 1:s as a linux machines. But for some strange reason they decided to jump using Terons instead.. Unfortunately at that time Bplan people had just found bugs and enginered April-1 fix...

And when Teron's didn't have that fix TSS had to cancel Teron sellin project (about half a year later?)
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Posted by Seehund on 01-Oct-2004 16:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Gregg):
Whatever could you be referring to?

Heh. Well, as JoannaK points out, TSS were smacked in the mouth twice.
First around the time when BBRV gleefully pointed out that TSS would be fscked if they would go ahead with the Terons, and second when they actually tested the Terons (and were fscked).

I don't know/remember if Mik^H^H^H"Asemoon" was involved when Kai Staats too was informed about BBRV's escapades on ANN, but if the "TSS are fscked by the Terons" jab would be sufficient cause to prevent a good(??) deal, then it only goes to show that it's not just a few of the actors on the Amiga "market" that are childish and long-sighted.
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Posted by Seehund on 01-Oct-2004 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (JoannaK):
But for some strange reason they decided to jump using Terons instead.

That they were basically the same hardware as the Peg1, while at the same time being cheaper* could have something to do with it. The field is still open, of course, for speculation on whether BBRV had pissed them off in some way even before the "Teron = dead end" statement.

*) I'm talking about Terons bought in batches directly from the producer, like Eyetech do it. TSS were going to sell them for $500. IIRC, the end-user price of the Peg1 was something like $600 at the time, and I don't know if bPlan/Genesi would have let TSS do their own production runs without middlemen.
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Posted by Seehund on 01-Oct-2004 16:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Seehund):
[...] then it only goes to show that it's not just a few of the actors on the Amiga "market" that are childish and long-sighted.

'Course, the official availability of YDL for a Genesi product could imply that business sense has prevailed over grudges and emotions - which led me to ask my original question.
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Posted by JoannaK on 01-Oct-2004 16:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Seehund):
Unfortunately that would had not worked worldwide as Eyetech had (still has) monopoly rights to all Teron sales in Europe. If TSS wanted to sell Terons here, they still had to pay hefty extra fees to Eyetech.
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Posted by Seehund on 01-Oct-2004 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (JoannaK):
I wonder if the Mai Logic brass only had simultaneous cerebral haemorrhages before they accepted that setup, or if someone also slipped psychotropic drugs into their coffee. Either that, or they already knew the Terons were still-born (if sold as anything other than an Articia-hardware-developer-platform) and they simply couldn't be bothered.
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Posted by JoannaK on 01-Oct-2004 19:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Seehund):
Well.. I don't know why that kind of deal was made.. But I seem to remember been announced years ago. ATM I'm too lazy to check this detail, I would preciate If any reasonably reliable person can confirm/deny this.
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 02-Oct-2004 07:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
Please ban anonymous cowards.
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Posted by Golem on 02-Oct-2004 08:01 GMT
"Motorola has chosen to receive the first Open Desktop Workstations with Yellow Dog Linux installed, as well as Debian and of course MorphOS. After our shared terrible experience with the Articia and Mai, we have come to terms with Kai Staats of Terra Soft and had a good discussion with him this past Friday. You can expect to see Genesi, Motorola and Terra Soft teaming up soon to bring the Open Desktop Workstation to the embedded systen development market."

link
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2004 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Golem):
And it came through! :-)
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Posted by pixie on 02-Oct-2004 18:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Golem):
There's a Portuguese saying: "Stop beating in blinds'... I don't understand why BBRV still need to bring this trough... after all, they have already choosen their perfect partner.
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Posted by Golem on 02-Oct-2004 18:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (pixie):
Obviously.
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Posted by pixie on 02-Oct-2004 19:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Golem):
I will confess you a little secret, I full of all of these whining about what other's had done wrong, when most of the time it is only made to cover their own incompetence.
We in Portugal have a government which since its start, about 2 years ago, the only thing they can say is how the others had done wrong, but after all it wasn't for bragging they were elected now where they...
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Posted by Tronman on 03-Oct-2004 03:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Stop being such a dill-hole! Yeah, as developer 'X' I want the
'official support' of a company who has yet to produce anything
except for pushing three years of unpaid 'employees' and a veritable
trail of tears for the users who try and get behind them, but end up
bent over in front of them.

Amiga the company has NOTHING TO DO WTIH PRODUCING THE A-ONE!!! They
never did-it was all about the licensing $$$ that was the extent of
their involvement. They just wanted to badge their DE thingy with the
Name.

Seen the new Arm9 powered handheld that has 3D hardware accel,
128megs RAM, Yamaha surround sound stereo, and... No Amiga
Anywhere!!??

I guess 'Anywhere' means WinCE devices from three years ago..

Not being associated with Amiga is the BEST thing that ever happened
to the PegasosII.

Genesi got away from MAI based boards for a reason. It doesn't matter
to me or them if its the MAI chip itself, the southbridge, some
bizarre undocumented bad reaction between the two or what.. The point
is they went with a chipset that works and works well.

It seems to me like Genesi are consistently making choices which net
them new customers and greater exposure for the fledgeling PPC clone
market which they pioneer.

Amiga and clowns can't say that and I bet it pisses you off too. I
know it pisses me off, I might never get the money I'm owed either.

Just my two cents..
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Posted by Tronman on 03-Oct-2004 03:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Stop being such a dill-hole! Yeah, as developer 'X' I want the
'official support' of a company who has yet to produce anything
except for pushing three years of unpaid 'employees' and a veritable
trail of tears for the users who try and get behind them, but end up
bent over in front of them.

Amiga the company has NOTHING TO DO WTIH PRODUCING THE A-ONE!!! They
never did-it was all about the licensing $$$ that was the extent of
their involvement. They just wanted to badge their DE thingy with the
Name.

Seen the new Arm9 powered handheld that has 3D hardware accel,
128megs RAM, Yamaha surround sound stereo, and... No Amiga
Anywhere!!??

I guess 'Anywhere' means WinCE devices from three years ago..

Not being associated with Amiga is the BEST thing that ever happened
to the PegasosII.

Genesi got away from MAI based boards for a reason. It doesn't matter
to me or them if its the MAI chip itself, the southbridge, some
bizarre undocumented bad reaction between the two or what.. The point
is they went with a chipset that works and works well.

It seems to me like Genesi are consistently making choices which net
them new customers and greater exposure for the fledgeling PPC clone
market which they pioneer.

Amiga and clowns can't say that and I bet it pisses you off too. I
know it pisses me off, I might never get the money I'm owed either.

Just my two cents..
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Posted by Eva on 03-Oct-2004 05:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Sammy Nordström):
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.199) on 02-Oct-2004 09:19:30
In Reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
Please ban anonymous cowards.

____________

After all your idiot posts you should be banned ... poor suffering worm.
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Posted by Eva on 03-Oct-2004 05:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (pixie):
Posted by pixie (82.154.55.51) on 02-Oct-2004 20:16:49
In Reply to Comment 35 (Golem):
There's a Portuguese saying: "Stop beating in blinds'... I don't understand why BBRV still need to bring this trough... after all, they have already choosen their perfect partner
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well you choosed Eyetech ...
Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support) : Comment 44 of 48ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 03-Oct-2004 09:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Eva):
If a rule to not post idiotic posts was to be introduced to the ANN.lu guidelines, I have my doubts it would be very beneficial for you, Eva.
Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support) : Comment 45 of 48ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 03-Oct-2004 11:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Sammy Nordström):
Amen
Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support) : Comment 46 of 48ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 03-Oct-2004 11:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Eva):
Did I!? When was it!? I have choosen ASUS AFAIK...
Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support) : Comment 47 of 48ANN.lu
Posted by Tronman on 03-Oct-2004 22:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Tronman):
Apologies for the double post, I didn't mean to say this twice :-/
Terra Soft Releases Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 (now with OFFICIAL Pegasos support) : Comment 48 of 48ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 04-Oct-2004 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Tronman):
I don't understand where I come into the picture here, as you're replying to me :)
Anonymous, there are 48 items in your selection
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