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[Events] 1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04ANN.lu
Posted on 08-Oct-2004 11:26 GMT by Invitiation25 comments
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Meet old and new friends, have some talk about MorphOS/ Amiga future. All MorphOS user and other interested Computer nerds/geeks are kindly invited to join this IRC (Internet Relay Chat) meeting. It's free! ;-)

DATE: 08./09./10. October 2004 (yes, it's this weekend)

LOCATION: #morphos @ ch1.arcnet.vapor.com (http://arcnet.vapor.com/) (or use the online interface on http://www.morphzone.org)

If you are using MorphOS then please add [MOS] to your nick for easy recognition.

Looking forward to see YOU!!! Let's break the channel user record!!! :-)
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 1 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by ikeL on 08-Oct-2004 10:35 GMT
My nick contains [MOS] at the start which stands for mossside ostrich society, however I don't really like morphos much but I like Amiga's. Can i still join?
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 2 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2004 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (ikeL):
> My nick contains [MOS] at the start which stands for mossside ostrich society, however I don't really like morphos much but I like Amiga's. Can i still join?

Yes, if you append [IDIOT] to your nick ;)
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 3 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 08-Oct-2004 14:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (ikeL):
pay no attention to anyone who posts here on ann.lu as 'anonymous'.

You should visit the #morphos irc channel, you might find out something interesting. :)
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 4 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 08-Oct-2004 16:05 GMT
Doesn't this meeting happen every day on #morphos on Arcnet?

Neko
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 5 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by officer doofy on 08-Oct-2004 20:49 GMT
whats the channel record? 5 people and a couple of bots?
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 6 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2004 23:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (officer doofy):
multiply by ten.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 7 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by bratwurst on 09-Oct-2004 02:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (officer doofy):
> whats the channel record? 5 people and a couple of bots?

amigaworld.net and its fake 2500 membership
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 8 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Oct-2004 02:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (bratwurst):
> amigaworld.net and its fake 2500 membership

divide by 10, then you have real membership number.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 9 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza on 09-Oct-2004 03:07 GMT
I think I will join #morphos for good now that Zapek and his imaginery enemies is gone.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 10 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 09-Oct-2004 04:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
> > amigaworld.net and its fake 2500 membership

> divide by 10, then you have real membership number.

I guess this is a sarcasm, but you can't count the real membership number by the number of the people who post often. For example I am a real member there but post rarely, and many people are doing so. Look at the Who's Online section on the left bottom - it gives better estimate. Most of the time it's more than the visitors of Amiga.org, and 10 times more than the visitors of MorphZone. Fact!

Also the IRC channel of AW.net is the most active Amiga channel I have seen in about 5 years now.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 11 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Joël EHRET on 09-Oct-2004 05:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (drHirudo):
Wrong comparison : as there is no autologin mode in MorphZone, so the people who don't post often don't login when reading news... so it's not a good argument...
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 12 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 09-Oct-2004 06:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Joël EHRET):
> Wrong comparison : as there is no autologin mode in MorphZone, so the people who don't post often don't login when reading news... so it's not a good argument...

I talk from my experience. I rarely login at AW.net as well, but I read it often (daily).
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 13 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 09-Oct-2004 07:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (drHirudo):
Indeed the online figures are impressive. Which is the timeout at aw.net?
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 14 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 09-Oct-2004 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (drHirudo):
"Also the IRC channel of AW.net is the most active Amiga channel I have seen in about 5 years now." Not as active as #amigafin is... *cough*
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 15 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Oct-2004 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (drHirudo):
You cann't use the who's online indicator to see how many users there are, I am
registered at MorphZone but hardly ever do I log in.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 16 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Milke Powell on 09-Oct-2004 11:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Then you would be counted as a guest.

Such sour grapes on this thread.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 17 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 09-Oct-2004 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (officer doofy):
Nice email address Ian (or is it uncharted this time?).

Maybe some moderator bothers to ban this proxy (168.143.113.138) from ann. Seems there had been many such subtle abusive posts in the past using it.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 18 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 09-Oct-2004 13:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (hooligan/dcs):
> Indeed the online figures are impressive. Which is the timeout at aw.net?
I am not the right person to answer this, sorry. But for me they look real for the activity there. Not like msx.org where I doubt there are half thousand people online all the time.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 19 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 09-Oct-2004 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
> You cann't use the who's online indicator to see how many users there are, I > am registered at MorphZone but hardly ever do I log in.

The talk wasn't about how many users there are, but if the 2500+ members on AW.net are real. They look real, as there are not only AmigaOne owners registered, but also MOS, AOS, Windows, MacOS etc.. members.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 20 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Oct-2004 14:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (drHirudo):
Well, I know that there are MorphOS users in there, I'm registered;-)
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 21 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by david on 09-Oct-2004 22:04 GMT
Unless Amiga users can protest Apple's monopoly of the PowerPC processor, Amiga has no future. Why Only Apple can innovate?
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 22 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 10-Oct-2004 03:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (david):
> Unless Amiga users can protest Apple's monopoly of the PowerPC processor,
> Amiga has no future. Why Only Apple can innovate?

Apple have the resources (money, manpower) to do their monopoly. The Amiga currently don't and I don't know if it ever will, neither any other PPC alternative. Sad but true. But as they say here - the hope dies last.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 23 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 10-Oct-2004 04:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (david):
I don't belive open hatred towards Apple would help you a lot, and I don't belive it would help your cause at all. But if it makes your day better, then go for it.
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 24 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 10-Oct-2004 09:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (drHirudo):
I guess this is a sarcasm, but you can't count the real membership number by the number of the people who post often. For example I am a real member there but post rarely, and many people are doing so. Look at the Who's Online section on the left bottom - it gives better estimate. Most of the time it's more than the visitors of Amiga.org, and 10 times more than the visitors of MorphZone. Fact!


Two points, one minor, one more significant: The first point is that quite a few people registered at AmigaWorld.net aren't fans, but are registered in order to post other points of view. Some have said so already in this thread; I'm included in that group. The reverse is probably true to a much lesser extent in the case of MorphZone, but even at Amigaworld.net this group is probably a very small percentage of the total.

And the second, more significant point: To me it's completely natural that Amigaworld.net has many more registered users than MorphZone.org. I believe a lot of people have followed the AW.net course out of momentum or inertia, and because the site represents the official continuation of the classic Amiga line. In the case of MorphZone, users have had to make an active decision to "jump boat" and change to a new platform, even if unofficially it is as smooth a transition from the classic line as AmigaOS4, if not more so. These means the number of users is likely to be much smaller at MorphZone; however, the users there are generally more active with the new platform and *seem+ to be more experienced computer users (just my observation, admittedly, based on the number and quality of requests for help and so on at each site, among other things).

The share (and probably the absolute number) of registered users at MorphZone that actually have and use a Pegasos is, I think, *much* higher than the number of AmigaWorld.net users that have and use an AmigaOne/AOS4. This is just my impression based on the nature of people's posts at the two sites, from what they post about, and how many seem to be saying they either have a new machine or don't have one and are waiting for some new model or whatever, for each side. If this generalization is more or less correct, then we can say that MZ is more of a *users'* site, whereas AW is more of a *fan* site (though of course many AW users do have an AmigaOne, though not as many as MZ users have a Pegasos). I don't know if these generalizations mean anything good or bad for either site, but they put things in perspective if we're making registered user number comparisons. Just a subjective observation, FWIW.

--gary_c
1st Virtual MorphOS User Meeting '04 : Comment 25 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 11-Oct-2004 10:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (drHirudo):
Apple don't have a monopoly.

They have MONEY. Enough to buy all the PowerPC's they want and design bespoke
cases and elephant-feet-sized copper heatsinks with gel-cooling and a $150
fan controller.

It doesn't mean that someone else can't come along and do the same, it just
means nobody has :D

Neko
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