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[Forum] Morphos for x86 at last?ANN.lu
Posted on 13-Oct-2004 05:41 GMT by Cruncher49 comments
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Apparently MorphOS for x86 exists! See here: X86/MorphOS 1 0 MOO! http://www.morphos-news.de/guides/rc5-72/dnet-mos-stats.php Unless of course someone was tinkering with an x86 client to get it to contribute to MorphOS/PPC stats and forgot to change the architecture flag...
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 1 of 49ANN.lu
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Posted by Nicolas Mendoza (80.202.210.35) on 13-Oct-2004 05:25 GMT
Heh, yeah I spotted it at the bottom here too:
http://polarboing.com/distributed/?action=stats

It seems it only gave one block yesterday, wonder if it is a debug block while changing it's ID or just a mistake?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 3 of 49ANN.lu
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Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 4 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (195.148.82.17) on 13-Oct-2004 05:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Or perhaps it was YOU so you can blame other guys ?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 5 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 05:55 GMT
It was I. Hang me.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 6 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh (195.148.82.17) on 13-Oct-2004 06:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (hooligan/dcs):
No matter if it was you or someone else, I have to ask one guestion: WHY ?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 7 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh (195.148.82.17) on 13-Oct-2004 06:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (miksuh):
question == question
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 8 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 06:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (miksuh):
You are oh so true
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 9 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza (80.202.210.35) on 13-Oct-2004 06:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
That makes you an expression evaluator?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 10 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 06:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (miksuh):
That's very obvious, someone with a x86 is trying to "help" the MorphOS team....

Maybe i should secretly install a client on all Peecee's at work and contribute to the AmigaOS PowerPC team.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 11 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 06:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Nicolas Mendoza):
No an expression confirmatator (they should make a movie about it)
Anyway,

I'll be back.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 12 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh (195.148.82.17) on 13-Oct-2004 06:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Yeah, I just don't understand why people have to cheat.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 13 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 06:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (miksuh):
>No matter if it was you or someone else, I have to ask one guestion: WHY ?

If I say it was me, will it make you stop? If yes, it was I.

rc5 is pretty much the most useless thing on the earth, all crunchers oughta be taken behind the shed and gotten shot.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 14 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 07:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (hooligan/dcs):
Why do you want to silence everyone? I mean, there are several "newsitems" proudly informing that the MorphOS team is in the lead.

But apparently, the scores smell fishy.

They are cheating and "that's a bad thing (TM)"
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 15 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 07:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
>Why do you want to silence everyone?

Lets get one thing straight... I honestly don't care if OS4 surpasses MorphOS by the end of today =) You ask this from #morphos if you can't take my word for it, I think I last wished yesterday that OS4 would overtake MOS as soon as possible to shut the channel's rc5 crunchers up :)

anyway.. carry on crunching
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 16 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil (195.1.135.34) on 13-Oct-2004 07:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (hooligan/dcs):
"all crunchers oughta be taken behind the shed and gotten shot."

Ooooh. That's generous. And the same to you ;-)
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 17 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 07:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (hooligan/dcs):
> It was I. Hang me.

No it wasn't. This is nothing but another step in this game called "the negotiator":

http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1096363855&category=forum&start=1&35

First they signed with "The Official MorphOS Team", then they repointed the morphos.net DNS, and now they send this single but "quite loud" block, making a statement about their new, strengthened negotiating position!

:-P ;-)
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 18 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 07:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
> That's very obvious, someone with a x86 is trying to "help" the MorphOS
> team....
>
> Maybe i should secretly install a client on all Peecee's at work and
> contribute to the AmigaOS PowerPC team.

My dear padowan, have you learned nothing yet, or are ju just confused by all entities (all three of them) to which the blocks are assigned?

Those are:
1. The individual
2. The platform (Processor/OS), information about this is hardcoded into the client, and statistics are based upon that information.
3. (Optional) A Team of your choice.

The most interesting is of course entity #2, but also the #1 from a personal perspective. The #3, the "Teams" of which you are speaking, is not really interesting at all. Many in the "Amiga RC5 team" is using PC's and other platforms, which is perfectly OK, because of the diffuse meaning of the team concept. Teams can be made of students in a certain high school, HD Bikers, gay people in the netherlands, or star trek enthusiasts in Brasil, and it is perfectly allright to use whatever platform to contribute to those teams.

The point is that this is about #2, the platform (Processor/OS) and not about the teams!

;-)
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 19 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (takemehomegrandma):
And you live in a world were opensource clients cannot be recompiled with a slightly modified sourcecode?

Wake up....
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 20 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 09:14 GMT
Bet those Linux PPC guys are crunching for Win.. damn cheaters
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 21 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
Huh? Where did I claim different?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 22 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (207.44.154.35) on 13-Oct-2004 09:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
dnetc is not opensource.

There is a freely available public source code, but it lacks *all* code regarding buffer handling, encryption, network etc. You need to sign NDA to get hold of the full source. http://www.distributed.net/source/

Get a clue, idiot.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 23 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
Wow, you can actually read a webpage, but do you understand it as well?
Do you need buffer handling, encryption and network sources in order to fake your platform???

Get a clue yourself moron.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 24 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 10:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
Before you add some more nonsense, by "faking you platform" I mean patching the client binary.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 25 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (207.44.154.35) on 13-Oct-2004 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
"you can actually read a webpage, but do you understand it as well?"

And which part I didn't allegedly understand? Please, amuse us.

"Do you need buffer handling, encryption and network sources in order to fake your platform?"

Yes, if you recompile from source code, like I tried to suggest. Patching a binary is far from "recompiling sourcecode". It's possible though.

But who would be such a retard not to patch CPU information aswell. You?

There is one clear idiot here so far.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 26 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (207.44.154.35) on 13-Oct-2004 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
*you tried
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 27 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 10:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
Well, I *really hope* that this was nothing but a hack/prank ...
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Posted by Tryo (217.81.232.144) on 13-Oct-2004 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
Lets give you a name, should we? :-)

Maybe, uhm, Jan Smite?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 29 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 11:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
Well, it's clear that this idiot is in the blue camp....Don't you think? Maybe this "person" was eager to test his hex edit masterpiece that he has to test it?

Again try to think for once....
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 30 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
>And which part I didn't allegedly understand? Please, amuse us.

OK you asked for it...

The part of the source where the actual platform info resides is available..not the engine and network stuff....

Now get a life and return to you "cpu evaluation board".
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 31 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.248.114.245) on 13-Oct-2004 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Anonymous):
"Again try to think for once"

You don't seem to be doing good job at it, either.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 32 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 12:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Anonymous):
> Maybe this "person" was eager to test his hex edit masterpiece that he has
> to test it?

I've been thinking a little bit more about this now, and it would actually surprise me a lot if it would be as simple as just doing some hex-editing in the client and then have the server happily accepting it as a completely new platform and include it in statistics by automation? I mean, wouldn't it first require some manual "account creation" on the server side or such, before it accepts submissions from completely new platforms?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 33 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (212.206.177.237) on 13-Oct-2004 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (takemehomegrandma):
Consider the alternative: The MorphOS team porting MorphOS to x86.

This doesn't sound very likely don't you think?

OK mrs. Blachford gave an interview on OSnews once where he answered the question: "Is a port of MorphOS to x86 planned?"

with:
" Not at the moment. I would be interested to see some version available under x86 though even if it was just under emulation, that would allow x86 users to see what MorphOS was capable of."


But why port an OS in a state where it surely won't attract users from the x86 platform?

Nah, i'll bed it's some x86 blue biased kiddy wanting to contribute to the Pegasos team but not as a windoze PeeCee.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 34 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Stephane Desrosiers (24.43.104.39) on 13-Oct-2004 13:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
Right above that stat there are 21 blocks from "X86/Mac OS X" as well. I wonder if this is a result of running on top of PearPC? IE: running the client as some sort of "benchmark".

Curious...
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 35 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by itix (130.234.189.82) on 13-Oct-2004 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Stephane Desrosiers):
The MorphOS client participated in RC5-64 contest too: http://stats.distributed.net/misc/platformlist.php?project_id=5&view=tco
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 36 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by JKD (69.4.128.193) on 13-Oct-2004 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
As opposed to the honest, forthright and all round good guys that Anon trolls on ann are?

<rolls eyes>

Get a grip (or a life)
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 37 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris (212.59.30.42) on 13-Oct-2004 13:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
How do you crunch blocks without encryption and network code ?
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 38 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Zylesea (217.225.26.211) on 13-Oct-2004 15:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Stephane Desrosiers):
No, an emulated OS reports the CPU which is emulated, e.g. WinUAE
contributes Blocks as AmigaOS 68k not as AmigaOS x86.

But I agree to TMHG, I hope this is just some kind of joke/hack.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 39 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by minator (81.51.80.51) on 13-Oct-2004 15:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
>OK mrs. Blachford gave an interview on OSnews once where he answered the question:
>"Is a port of MorphOS to x86 planned?"

My Mum was interviewed on OSNews? Must have missed that one.

Either that or I've had a sex change operation and hadn't noticed yet...
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 40 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 13-Oct-2004 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (minator):
"Either that or I've had a sex change operation and hadn't noticed yet..."

WOW, ARE YOU IN FOR A SURPRISE THE NEXT TIME YOU GO TO THE BATHROOM, OR WHAT??!?!

(Better squat!)

;-)
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 41 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret (80.203.17.222) on 13-Oct-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (itix):
More interestingly, the "Amiga OS" platform also competed on (in addition to 68k and PowerPC) Sparc, PA-RISC, Alpha, POWER, 88K, ARM, MIPS and X86 CPUs there... ;)


- CISC
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 42 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK (213.130.199.15) on 13-Oct-2004 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
I wonder how many of those loud ones will now blame AmigaOs RC-5 people for cheating.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 43 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Registered user) on 13-Oct-2004 17:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
>More interestingly, the "Amiga OS" platform also competed on (in addition to 68k and PowerPC) Sparc, PA-RISC, Alpha, POWER, 88K, ARM, MIPS and X86 CPUs there... ;)

That can ONLY mean ONE thing... AmigaOS has been secretly ported to Sparc, PA-RISC, Alpha, POWER, 88K, ARM, MIPS and of course, x86.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 44 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 13-Oct-2004 18:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
What started as a prank has now turned into vandalism!
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 45 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza (80.202.210.35) on 13-Oct-2004 18:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
That's true, in 1997, one would think the bogus packet checking would be better by now.

It _is_ a bit peculiar that MOS/x86 appears at this point though when AmigaOS is surpassing MOS/PPC in the daily rate.

Of course it still could be a coinscidence as MOS most likely have the highest OS IS and X86 most likely is the lowest CPU ID.

So the probability it is a bogus packet getting past the filters is quite high one would think. Funny nevertheless ;)

Cheers
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 46 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza (80.202.210.35) on 14-Oct-2004 07:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Nicolas Mendoza):
An yesterday there were 32 more block ;D
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 47 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by itix (130.234.189.82) on 14-Oct-2004 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Nicolas Mendoza):
Must be someone testing new client with wrong system id.
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 48 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by pixie (193.137.78.252) on 14-Oct-2004 19:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (itix):
Don't burst my bubble please... thnx! ;b
Morphos for x86 at last? : Comment 49 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hammer (203.26.24.217) on 17-Oct-2004 21:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Stephane Desrosiers):
Refer to SoftPear (open source version) or similar projects i.e. Apple is noted to have an X86 build of MacOS X.
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