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Posted on 15-Oct-2004 20:19 GMT by Captain Banana53 comments
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http://amigos.amiga.hu/rachy/petunia.html
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 1 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry (81.202.132.190) on 15-Oct-2004 18:39 GMT
To His Highness, the Allmighty Almos Rajnai:

Let me be the first to say: Congrats and Big Thank You!!!!

Saluditos,

FerrŠn.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 2 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Rui Silva (81.193.20.180) on 15-Oct-2004 18:59 GMT
Ok, he has a giant dancing banana, so what?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 3 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Chip (81.205.201.39) on 15-Oct-2004 19:00 GMT
Congratulations Rachy! Nice work! :)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 4 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Francesco Borghese (62.11.0.147) on 15-Oct-2004 19:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Rui Silva):
You must admit it is a very huge banana and it dances with style! :-)

Ehm, maybe good news are going to follow...
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 5 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (216.127.82.97) on 15-Oct-2004 21:09 GMT
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!11
Why, oh why, has everyone gone bananas?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 6 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bill (216.27.180.97) on 15-Oct-2004 23:13 GMT
I've always said that OS 4 would be publicly available with in 4 months of the JIT being ready. The clock has started :)

Bill "tekmage" Borsari
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 7 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Argo (24.58.136.28) on 15-Oct-2004 23:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill):
*tick* *tick* *tick* *tick*
I wonder if it will be demoed in Ottawa.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 8 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk (24.150.70.204) on 16-Oct-2004 00:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Argo):
The latest OS4 modules available at the time of the November 20th show will be demonstrated.

Adam
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 9 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Jon (82.141.86.140) on 16-Oct-2004 06:06 GMT
Congratulations, Racs :) I've never before been so happy about banana :)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 10 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (168.143.113.138) on 16-Oct-2004 07:36 GMT
Almost two years after MorphOS JIT... I wonder why people are amazed...
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 11 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Chip (81.205.201.39) on 16-Oct-2004 07:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
How does MoprhOS JIT cames into this topic mr.Anonymous?
Please stay on topic! Thanks.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 12 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.133.140.163) on 16-Oct-2004 08:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Chip):
> How does MoprhOS JIT cames into this topic mr.Anonymous? Please stay on topic! Thanks

You are not doing yourself a favour with arrogant replies ;) Now that you have brought additional attention to MorphOS: Obviously MorphOS was mentioned because it has a JIT that is known to be very good in terms of stability and performance and integration into the OS (on a MHz basis, it outperforms a PC with UAE JIT that is nominally three times faster). It would be interesting to get some benchmarks for the OS4 JIT. Beeing completed is one aspect of it, the other is: how good is it?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 13 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (194.86.94.42) on 16-Oct-2004 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
So what ? Who cares if it was first or not ? I really donš't understand what has that to do with anything :P
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 14 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (194.86.94.42) on 16-Oct-2004 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
By the way UAE did have JIT years before MOS.

So next time think before you open your mouth or use your fingers.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 15 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Chip (81.205.201.39) on 16-Oct-2004 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
"with arrogant replies"

Excuse me! When does an arrogant reply contains such words: "Please", "Thanks" ?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 16 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele (80.104.191.53) on 16-Oct-2004 08:48 GMT
Ok with the banana I saw yesterday.

But now is the moment to let us see mpeg anims of the real stuff working & benchmarks in action.

;-))))))))))
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 17 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 09:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raffaele):
"But now is the moment to let us see mpeg anims of the real stuff working & benchmarks in action."

Compare the Imagine test project rendering time with the time on MOS, Amithlon, etc.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 18 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele (80.104.191.53) on 16-Oct-2004 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Don Cox):
Mr. Don Cox wrote:

>Compare the Imagine test project rendering time
>with the time on MOS, Amithlon, etc.

That was my wish yesterday.

But enering Petunia site there is nothing actually than the Big banana.

Where are the link to sub-pages showing test comparisons?

Links which existed once upon (well... not so much time ago).

So, please, could/would you gently point the correct Petunia subpages links to me and to the other readers?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 19 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by ikir (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 09:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
MOS development started about 2 years before infact :-)

Again stay on topic.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 20 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ase (66.144.4.2) on 16-Oct-2004 09:47 GMT
Is MorphOS port planned?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 21 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele (80.104.193.148) on 16-Oct-2004 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Ase):
Mr. Ase wrote:

>Is MorphOS port planned?

Are you joking?

They have A-Box integrated into the Morphos OS.

Why do they need for an emulator which works as standalone program?

However any solution chosen, '040 emulator embedded into the OS or as standalone
program has its merits and its imperfections.

A-Box into MOS being part of the OS it is well integrated and more preformant.

BUT you have to release another MOS version to upgrade it.

Petunia as standalone program is not integrated into the OS and it should have some imperfections in dialoguing with the OS.

BUT you could upgrade it easily and install new version whenever you want to.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 22 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.133.132.149) on 16-Oct-2004 10:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Chip):
> Excuse me! When does an arrogant reply contains such words: "Please", "Thanks" ?

Your reply was arrogant not because of choice of words but because this is an open forum and everybody is free to bring up what he or she finds interesting and you can not go tell other people what to discuss or to shut up, however politely you put it. Mentioning MorphOS JIT is perfectly valid, it's a competitive product and OS4 JIT will have to measure up against it (so far it didn't). No please shut up, thanks. Just kidding ;)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 23 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Chip (81.205.201.39) on 16-Oct-2004 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
Not really. You know very well, in this forum mentioning MorphOS in OS4 topic or mentioning OS4 in a MorphOS topic will became huge flamewar and it is not about freedom of speech. Anyway, if your goal was to make another Mos vs OS4 f*ckfest, you are going into the best direction and excuse me to interrupt you in your trolling task.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 24 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.133.132.149) on 16-Oct-2004 10:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Chip):
The website for Petuina says It's Done. Does that mean it has been completed as a separate component or has the intergration into OS4 been completed as well (as announced on a German news site)? If not, how difficult is that part and what amount of time will it take? In other words, is it just peanuts from this point to a final release in/with OS4?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 25 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (168.143.113.138) on 16-Oct-2004 10:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
You can not really compare MorphOS 68k JIT which has to be integrated
in a PowerPC OS and the UAE JIT which "only" have to
emulate.

The MorphOS one (especially the intragration) is a bit more complex,
and a different job.
Of course, I respect the great work of the UAE authors.

The point is that many OS4 fans seems to be amaze by the OS whereas
MorphOs *public* is still a lot of more complete (but the net
stack)...

@Ikir: yeah, MorphOS was started before OS4, then HyperionOS should
never have existed. It would have been a lot of more profitable for
*EVERYONE* if Hyperion/Eyetech would have made logical choice and work
on MorphOS applications...
We would have won so much times/applications/users/features.
And, we would have had a small chance against big ones (like
Windows/Linux/MacOS X).

Now, MorphOS and OS4 will likely die sooner or later.
Especially the second one because it has no real hardware to work on
yet.

Bye
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 26 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by ece (83.227.20.121) on 16-Oct-2004 10:53 GMT
"Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!11
Why, oh why, has everyone gone bananas?"

lol...
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 27 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by pixie (82.154.223.138) on 16-Oct-2004 11:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
> The point is that many OS4 fans seems to be amaze by the OS whereas
> MorphOs *public* is still a lot of more complete (but the net
> stack)...

Because maybe it's the system they've chosen... it's not like the wheel hasn't being invented before... (btw you know that AmigaOS precedes MorphOS which incidentally is based on it!?) it's only natural they are happy as an Manchester United fan rejoices when his time wins and not when Arsenal... Duh!!!
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 28 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by nyarlathotep (165.76.216.116) on 16-Oct-2004 11:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (ece):
morphos users go home !
in your stinky morphos websites

more-flawS is crap ;)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 29 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Christoph Gutjahr (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
>> or has the intergration into OS4 been completed as well (as announced on a
>> German news site)?

The integration has been completed.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 30 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (168.143.113.138) on 16-Oct-2004 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (pixie):
>btw you know that AmigaOS precedes MorphOS which incidentally is based on it!?

Usual crap spread by Hyperion to mask fact...

AmigaOS 68k != HyperionOS
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 31 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 12:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Raffaele):
Huh? You just upgrade trance.library and MOSSYS:C/trance!
The fact that something is integrated doesn't mean that it must be in the boot
image, stop thinking like a Windows user:-)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 32 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (82.48.136.114) on 16-Oct-2004 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
HyperionOS ????

So what is MorphOS ? The illegal copy of AMIGAOS

Shut up blue troll
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 33 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by nyarlathotep (165.76.216.116) on 16-Oct-2004 13:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
yes, everytime blue-trolls are infecting amiga threads.
we don't care about your morphos, go away with your crap
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 34 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by derf (82.33.112.132) on 16-Oct-2004 14:02 GMT
Mac JIT was there before both MOS and os4 JIT's so be quiet all you little trolls :)

congrats for the work being finished, thats what matters!

aw.net posting said the stats page will be back up, as this new main page is just a bit of fun :)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 35 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samo79 (82.48.136.114) on 16-Oct-2004 14:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (nyarlathotep):
"infecting amiga threads" is a perfect phrase, any time there is a Amiga news, one or more trolls must "scatter poison" on it

If you are not interested on AmigaOne/OS4 don't write anithing about, and play with you Pegasos.

Again, "HyperionOS" is AMIGAOS, MorphOS is not AmigaOS, is a good clone of it but is not the official AMIGAOS, because Genesi does not pay any copyrights to use it's name, finally when i read a MOS thread (and most Amiga user) i/we don't scatter any FUD on it

So MOS user shut up, and follow the MOS thread
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 36 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 14:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
Next time reply to the correct comment you f-ing buttorifice.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 37 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Lecta (82.48.153.47) on 16-Oct-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Raffaele):
>Petunia as standalone program is not integrated into the OS and it should have some imperfections in dialoguing with the OS.

Petunia IS integrated in to the OS. It's not a standalone program. At least not anymore.

Regards,
Lecta
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 38 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (82.48.136.114) on 16-Oct-2004 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Ops sorry Alkis you are right :-)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 39 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 16-Oct-2004 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Anonymous):
And I'm sorry for swearing at you, I was a bit annoyed by some other (not even
computer related) stuff. :-)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 40 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (82.48.136.114) on 16-Oct-2004 14:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
No problem Alkis I understand ;-)
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 41 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (66.125.152.152) on 16-Oct-2004 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
That wasn't an arrogant reply. This one is: SHUT UP!
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 42 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Argo (24.58.136.28) on 16-Oct-2004 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Adam Kowalczyk):
I know that, but I was asking if that would include Petunia.
So, is it:
A) Yes
B) No
C) Maybe
D) I don't know.
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 43 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga (80.180.53.99) on 16-Oct-2004 16:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Chip):
why anon don't stay on topic? . . . because he is a troll, plain and simple
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 44 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga (80.180.53.99) on 16-Oct-2004 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
"Now, MorphOS and OS4 will likely die sooner or later.
Especially the second one because it has no real hardware to work on
yet."

everyone will die sooner or later . . .even you . . .don't you?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 45 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by pixie (82.154.223.138) on 16-Oct-2004 17:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
> Usual crap spread by Hyperion to mask fact...

au contraire... this is a fact
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 46 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (66.120.210.29) on 16-Oct-2004 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
> It would be interesting to get some benchmarks for the OS4 JIT.

Are there any tests of MOS JIT emulation?
Could you give a link?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 47 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by pixie (82.154.223.138) on 16-Oct-2004 19:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Framiga):
> everyone will die sooner or later . . .even you . . .don't you?
It was already proved scientifically that Amiga can't die (it can zombify though...)
;b
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 48 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (83.72.196.77) on 17-Oct-2004 10:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Christoph Gutjahr):
"Integrated" means that it has replaced the interpreter as the default 68k emulator?
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 49 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Jon (82.141.87.213) on 17-Oct-2004 11:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
No, on the page it reads:

"The actual version is already running in close cooperation with the interpretive emulation in AmigaOS4.0."
Dancing Banana at Petunia website : Comment 50 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Jon (82.141.87.213) on 17-Oct-2004 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Jon):
Eh, sorry, a bit hasty reply. you might be right.
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