|In reply to Comment 34 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):|
"I'm sorry but I think you are not fully informed about the facts."
That's debatable, but feel free to debate them ;)
"The speed with which POP is moving is due to only 1 thing at the moment: the AmigaOne and the cooperation between MAI, Eyetech and others who have a stake in POP development."
Eyetech/Amiga haven't promoted the technology of the POP platform at all, if you'd care to ask MAI, all the advancements in POP architecture (the chipsets) were developed indipendantly of Amiga/Eyetech, and wern't influenced by Amiga at all, both were already available/in development before Eyetech decided to use them. neither chipset ever even anticipated being used in an Amiga, by it's manufacturers.
"There was no serious, financially backed up interest by the Linux community for hardware which most there consider overpriced when compared to x86 Linux."
True, but there was more interest/market/funding than the Amiga market could muster, this is why Eyetech canned the original AmigaOne and decided to use the board that benefitted from the R/D from the (small as it was) linux/POP community.
"In fact, were it not for the AmigaOne project and Eyetech's sensible decision to work with MAI, all we would have today would be very expensive POP based evaluation boards from MAI which are intended to show off the capabilities of their Northbridge."
Which is a good thing? no? Much better than a proprietary board Eyetech never got to work.
"The POP project has been out there and dormant for years."
Much like the Amiga ;) Yet the dormant POP market has been moving faster, and producing chipsets, technology that we're using in the AmigaONE. the big thing is to ensure we can continue using this technology, as it develops, in the future. The licensing scheme puts the iniative in others hands, rather than the people we are buying the OS from.
"With the demise of Beos, the end of the Apple clone makers and the dominance (through economies of scale) of x86 Linux, there simply wasn't any OS around that warranted mass-production and further development of POP boards."
(Apple never ran on POP boards, Apple is a platform, even the clones)
Yet the POP technology still advanced, obviously, as Eyetech has chosen it after failing to compete with a proprietary model.
"No OS to run on it, no POP production."
Yet R/D is still happening (remember that's why we have the technology we're borrowing from POP) and new chipsets are still being developed, even the next Eyetech model is again based on R/D from the POP market you feel isn't relevant.
"Now there is in the form of OS 4 which is exactly why anybody else interested in entering the POP market will look at OS 4 first and foremost."
Well, so far there's only one company that looked at OS4 first, Eyetech, others looked, and decided the license model wasn't to their liking. The problem here is that the licensing model put's the iniative on the manufacturer, something that isn't good in a market you yourself decribe as "dormant."
In a perfect world, we'd be able to use OS4 on those boards who's manufacturers have passed us over. Not all these manufacturers have expierence in an Amiga market, and I'm afraid most are litterally afraid of it, after all there's this talk of a curse ;) when building hardware specifically for an Amiga.
If running OS4 on a motherboard didn't involve commitment from the manufacturer to tailor to Amiga's license, and instead just allowed it to run unmodified on it's existing product line, the bar would be lowered for other entries into the market we could benefit from.