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Posted on 28-Aug-2004 19:07 GMT by drHirudo126 comments
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After some delay, the first Next generation Amiga at affordable
price will be available at the dealers in start of October. More info is Here The suggested end user price for these boards is as follows:

µ-A1-C - gbp349/euro499/USD599 (ex VAT/sales tax)
µ-A1-I - gbp399/euro599/USD699 (ex VAT/sales tax)
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MicroAmiga available in October. : Comment 86 of 126ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 30-Aug-2004 12:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Don Cox):
I disagree. (aka "I have a loaded comment here, and I'm not afraid to post it").

You can hook up as many switches as you want on USB or a serial port (shock, horror. People actually do this on PCs, you know). And modern mice has switches, they have MORE switches than the Amiga EVER had. Why can't you just use those? Do you HAVE to have access to them without going through a mouse driver? AmigaInput will give you the controls you need if you wish to use a standard mouse as base for your hardware.
Genlock? Duh, that's a pretty specific target market. I imagine you could sell at least 5 of those a year, right? Not worth the hassle. I don't need one, 99% of my friends don't need one (we've reached the stage where it's easier to decode the CVBS, store it in a file, overlay text in our own tempo and then re-encode it to CVBS after we're done). CVBS/S-video grabber cards are like 20EUR a piece. CPU is abundant.

Amiga applications? Those are obsolete. Ages ago. If we can't come up with a better application for most of those things then we are SO screwed. Yes, the average consumer would roll his eyes and leave before you got past the first set of screendumps, you would never get him to see that that crappy looking user interface is useful. And so on. Yes, I know you're gonna bite that bait ;-)

Now, that's what _I_ think. The difference between me and you being that I see that not many except Don Cox would pay extra for a genlockable video port, a non-standard mouse and ability to run decades old software. Seriously, things like that might appeal to YOU and ME, but they won't appeal to most people.

Lack of video editing software is a good one. So, the A1000 had video editing software when it was released, did it? Didn't think so. It's a lack of software, it's not a lack of hardware. Video editing software in 2004 generally means MPEG(1|2|4) or DV in files on a server. So you need a way to capture (SDI or IEEE1394 input), but not necessarily on every workstation. And then you need a way to process, but that is just software. Instead of bitching about lack of it, maybe you should contribute? Nah, that would be productive, wouldn't it?

You would rather use an A4000 than an A1? Ok, fine. Use it. But stop moaning and bitching about lack of dipswitches and whatnot. It's all there if you bother looking for it. And broadcast from now on does NOT mean analogue audio and video, it means AES and SDI. Making a killer board that can do analogue syncing in 2004 seems like QUITE a waste. The old Amigas aren't even CLOSE to following PAL or NTSC specs, they are just close enough to be used with a TV. Try to convert the signals into SDI and you'll see it's completely fucked up. I suspect something like 95% of modern "TV out" from gfx cards is no better. So it's not going to be used in a professional setup. If it isn't good enough for the pros, it's not going to sell to the wannabes either.

I would go the other way, buy an SDI grabber/generator card (for maximum quality, or use IEEE394 if I could live with compression) and do processing inside the computer. Which is how the professionals do it. For a very good reason.

Of course, I work in the broadcast business, so I might be slightly biased here ;-)
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