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Why guess, listen to rumours, compare months old public releases and continue speculating online? Why not participate in a friendly duel and come see the state of the art for yourself! Finnish Amiga Users Group is pleased to demonstrate the best of the both worlds at its annual meeting this coming Saturday: AmigaOne running a new AmigaOS 4.0 beta and Pegasos II running MorphOS 1.5 beta. The time and place to be: 14 o'clock, Saturday 25.09.2004, Opetusravintola Eetvartin Kellarikabinetti, Sumeliuksenkatu 16, Tampere, Finland.


The Best of Both Worlds: New OS4 beta and MOS 1.5 beta in Finland

TAMPERE, FINLAND - September 23st, 2004 - Why guess, listen to rumours, compare months old public releases and continue speculating online? Why not participate in a friendly duel and come see the state of the art for yourself! Finnish Amiga Users Group is pleased to demonstrate the best of the both worlds at its annual meeting this coming Saturday: AmigaOne running a new AmigaOS 4.0 beta and Pegasos II running MorphOS 1.5 beta.

Encouraged by the recent technological advances within the extended Amiga community, the Finnish Amiga Users Group is once again excited to showcase the latest progress. Colour blind since its inception, the Finnish Amiga Users Group welcomes everyone - and attendance is free as usual. The time and place to be: 14 o'clock, Saturday 25.09.2004, Opetusravintola Eetvartin Kellarikabinetti, Sumeliuksenkatu 16, Tampere, Finland.

Also attending is Finnish Amiga retailer Gentle Eye Ky. Welcome!

About Finnish Amiga Users Group

Finnish Amiga Users Group (officially Suomen Amiga-käyttäjät ry.) is a registered, non-profit organization dedicated to supporting Finnish Amiga computer users by preserving and advancing the Amiga hobby and knowledge of the Amiga computing platform in Finland. The group aims to reach its goals through volunteer efforts such as organizing events and publishing an e-zine called Saku. For more information, see http://saku.amigafin.org.

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The Best of Both Worlds: New OS4 beta and MOS 1.5 beta in Finland : Comment 54 of 174ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Sep-2004 08:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Kjetil):
"about comparing Amiga prices whit PC stop that,
start comparing them whit Macs, if you look at the
Mac prices they are really not that cheap,"

OK, here we go:

Complete iMac 1.6GHz G5 system with the following specifications:

17-inch widescreen LCD
1.6GHz PowerPC G5
512K L2 cache
533MHz frontside bus
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR video memory
80GB Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load Combo Drive

It has: Two FireWire 400 ports; three USB 2.0 ports, two USB 1.1 ports (on keyboard); VGA output; S-video and composite video output (with adapters)

Included software:
Mac OS X version 10.3 “Panther”, the world's most advanced operating system, iLife (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD and GarageBand), AppleWorks, Quicken 2004 for Mac, World Book 2004 Edition, Nanosaur 2, Marble Blast Gold, Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive, Apple Hardware Test and more

Price? $1,299

OK, over to the A1 then (at software hut):

AmigaOne G4-XE motherboard with G4 processor
256MB [expensive & hard to find] RAM
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM drive
52X24X52 CDRW
ATI Radeon 7000 64MB and TV Out graphics card
Sound Blaster Live audio card
2 USB 1.1 Ports
10/100 Ethernet Built In
HD Floppy drive
3-Button Mouse and Keyboard

Included software: None!

Price? $1,499

Add some $100 or so for the OS (which include some demos of some year 1990 level software etc in a contrib drawer)

The price for the A1+OS4 ends up at $300 more than the G5 Mac, and that is for a Articia based motherboard with dubious quality, No office suite, No modern Internet software, and NO 17" LCD WIDESCREEN! You were saying?

Of course the Pegasos looks kind of poor in comparison too, but at least that motherboard is a lot better than the A1 in most aspects and a lot cheaper! Also, Linux works FINE on the Pegasos!

"I'm not concerned about the number of AmigaOS user at the moment, I think once the
product offer more connectivity and backwards compatibility, then the computer becomes
more useful for daily use ex: connecting memory sticks and photo/video/web-cams, TV-cards and other
multi-media devices in your home, the Amiga comes more useful for more folks."

Sure, drivers are a must have, but those alone won't make the computer useful. Applications will, like those available for (or even included with) the Mac you wanted to compare the A1 with. There are not many applications for the OS4 that works good today, not even the old ones because of OS4's poor Amiga compatibility and emulation capabilities, and I don't see a lot of new ones coming either ...

"It's more about what AmigaOS can offer compared whit other alternatives,"

Agree. So exactly what is that?

"you really only need one good paint program"

Agree, PHOTOSHOP is all I need, and I really need it! It's available for the Mac you wanted to compare to.

"one good music program"

Disagree! The more of those the marrier! :-)

"one good web browser"

Yes, a pity there is not a single one for the OS4 ...

Look, the A1 and OS4 is only interesting to a few hundred Amiga geeks. They have already bought what they want. Do you think we have a nutricious market here? Do we see a lot of commercial office suits, web browsers, music programs etc rolling in? Do we see a lot of commercial "software houses" lined up to release their software for this "new" (hmm) "powerful" (ahem) "fair priced" (cough!) platform?

Nah, the A1/OS4 is a hobby for some very rich (and/or stupid) people who has a need to use things with boing balls on, just for the sake of it and not because of the hardware/application specifications, that's all there is to it, and I see no chance of how it possibly coud take off to become a real platform!

Or can anyone please enlighten me?
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