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[News] amiga.com updatedANN.lu
Posted on 05-Apr-2000 06:29 GMT by Christian Kemp43 comments
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Amiga's new website is up. I didn't find a lot of content yet, but at least the layout and structure seems better now.
amiga.com updated : Comment 1 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Err... I clicked on the link and got the "old" site. Is it normal ?
amiga.com updated : Comment 2 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Michael on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
The same goes for me!.
No visible change at all. So i guess it's normal (?)
amiga.com updated : Comment 3 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Zivkovic on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Ben Yoris):
It will take some time before all nameservers will timeout the old
IP'nr and requsest the new. SO if anyone out there get the new site
would kindly supply it IP so the rest of us can check the site I at
least would be very happy.
amiga.com updated : Comment 4 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by nyxordnA on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Stefan Zivkovic):
No point in going there yet, it is insanely slow. And what is Downtown.com???
amiga.com updated : Comment 5 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (nyxordnA):
And the IP-adress is...?
amiga.com updated : Comment 6 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Zivkovic on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Try this, I found it in news :)
http://209.15.87.244
/Zingo
amiga.com updated : Comment 7 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Sauro on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
It doesn't load a lot of images.....it seems like amiga.com was before they did it amiga.de like....
amiga.com updated : Comment 8 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by cYB0rG on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
No changes, ATM ....
amiga.com updated : Comment 9 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Stefan Zivkovic):
THANK YOU!!! :-))
amiga.com updated : Comment 10 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by John B on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Stefan Zivkovic):
The IP address leads to a mess, certainly not a working website.
I hope they can do better h/w and s/w developement? Hope its not
typical of the Amigas neuvo...
amiga.com updated : Comment 11 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Francesco on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
I guess it's still under costruction...
amiga.com updated : Comment 12 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Mike Bouma on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (John B):
If you use their IP-adres http://209.15.87.244 off course it will show a mess. Remember that all links still link to http://www.amiga.com untill the nameservers have been updated. So if you press a link i.e. the products link you will get redirected to http://www.amiga.com/products/ which off course still doesn`t exsist, BUT if you type the URL in manually like http://209.15.87.244/products/ it does. That`s why the pictures still don`t show as well. :)
Sincerely, Mike Bouma.
amiga.com updated : Comment 13 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Radfoo on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
It's only a mess whilst you use the IP address, it will sort itself out when you use the proper URL later.
Bit disapointed there is'nt another executive update, oh well, maybe in a few days.
amiga.com updated : Comment 14 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Merriman on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (John B):
C'mon people, since the site hasn't made it through the DNS mess yet it's not surprising that none of the images display properly. Think about it, since all the images are hanging off www.amiga.com and that site still officially references empty space they won't load automatically. If you want to see the image then you have to view the source of the page and substitute the IP address of the site for the www.amiga.com part of the address then all will become clear.
amiga.com updated : Comment 15 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselš on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
It seems this is the same site that was up briefly during the Collas-era. Not necessarily bad, but I would have expected something new.
amiga.com updated : Comment 16 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Omer on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
If this is the new web site then the new OS is probably Kickstart 1.0 ...
amiga.com updated : Comment 17 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by radfoo on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Omer):
Read the above comments explaining why it does not work, if you wait I while it will eventualy be okay.
amiga.com updated : Comment 18 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Fudge on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Omer):
Please stop this negative rambling...
amiga.com updated : Comment 19 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by John Chandler on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Just tried it and I seem to get a weird hybrid site. The HTML is all for Amiga.com, though all but two images loaded are for "Downtown.com" which is apparently 'The Evolution of Online Shopping'. It then redirects to grafx.com with a 403 error.
Very weird... dontchya just love DNS troubles...
John
amiga.com updated : Comment 20 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Adrain Sweeney on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
They have placed a <BASE HREF="http://www.amiga.com/"> tag in the source so only a bit of the site will load mouse overs as they are accesses before the base Href tag in the source. Why they are using this tag I don't know.
View sourse save your your machine and replace www.amiga.com with 209.15.87.244
and move to just after the head tag and the images load you can then link to the other pages but they fall into that as well.
I must admit that it looks cool pity about the image bottom left of menu on the home page must be in a cell with cellspacing or cellpadding greater than 0 altogether a very nice looking home page
I will rate it on http://www.amigaglobe.com/ when the site is up.
Adrian Sweeney
CEO AmigaGlobe.com
amiga.com updated : Comment 21 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Omer on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Fudge):
This web-site design goes back 3 years (or something like that), I'm surprised
not many people noticed it.
amiga.com updated : Comment 22 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Mark S. Hone on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
As of 14:25 BST the Old amiga.com website is back! (the one from Schindler/Collas era) I guess this site was designed by Bill/Fleecy/a friend of either and that's why they've put it back.
I have to say I think it's a lot better than the existing site anyway! I look forward to seeing more content shortly.
Mark
amiga.com updated : Comment 23 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by justin on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (radfoo):
But he's right though. It's the same site amiga.com used to be before it was linked to amiga.de.
I quite like it though. never understood why they replaced it with the amiga.de one. Maybe
Gateway did it to scare serious developers away?
amiga.com updated : Comment 24 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Ted Wallingford on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (justin):
Actually, the reason the old Amiga site as seen now on www.amiga.com was replaced by the German site is because of internal powere struggles that occurred mostly between Petro and Darreck Lisle of all people. If that fight had not been won by Amiga International, the resurrected site design probably would have been in place for the last three years. And thanks to those of you smart enough to figure out what was causing the problems with the images. All's well that ends well. Expect amiga.net to have a different look before long, too, methinks.
amiga.com updated : Comment 25 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by AMIUX on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Amiga's new website is up?, What?
Is this not just the old page?
amiga.com updated : Comment 26 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Gooseman on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Check out the Meta tag. He he he...
Amiga, embedded, realtime, console, Jay Miner, alternative,
Microsoft not spoken here, web, video, pc, virtual reality, internet
amiga.com updated : Comment 27 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Andre on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
The rotating Boing Ball is a little "choppy",
it needs a few more in-between frames.
Bye,
/////ANDRE
amiga.com updated : Comment 28 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Philip on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Still having problems accessing the site, how long should it take to be up and running properly?
amiga.com updated : Comment 29 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Rippetoe on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Who switches servers (new ip number) the week following an important show?
Maybe I have a lame isp, but judging from the other post I would say not.
amiga.com updated : Comment 30 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by BH on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
It's better than the old one, but.......
http://www.softimage.com/
I was hoping for something more like the url above. Same kind off color scheme, same kind of icons, but a lot more ooomph! The new/old Amiga site doesn't stick out like I'd want it to. Not something you tell your non Amiga friend to check out. Sorry, but it just isn't "there".
amiga.com updated : Comment 31 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by pierre narcisse on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (BH):
I agree The soft image site has that bang that the Amiga site should have. The new design( or old Design) is okay but it just lacks the bang. I want to see a jazzed up site that will reflect the new Amiga. But then again Amiga inc. I hope will create a better system then web page. I'll give them a break because they have done so much in three monts then Gateway ever did in three years.
amiga.com updated : Comment 32 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Jensen on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
To all those having DNS trouble:
Most (if not all) TCP/IP stacks for the amiga supports setting
up "local DNS" (or whatever it's called).
For Genesis do this:
* Fire up configuration
* Select "Database" from the menu
* In the top cycle gadget, select Hosts
* Add a new entry with "209.15.87.244" as IP Addr and
"www.amiga.com" as Name
* Save changes and switch to offline, then online again.
* quit and restart your browser.
AFAIR the procedure for Miami is much the same...
(BTW. remember to delete the entry later, or you might be
in for some truble later ;-)
amiga.com updated : Comment 33 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Gooseman on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Whilst it seems like a really good improvement on the old site, I think it is still lackinga really professional presence. It just seems very dated. Still, I guess we're stuck with it, as I doubt they'll be designing a new site in the near future.
amiga.com updated : Comment 34 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Gooseman):
It's the old (bad) design developed by Pantheon Systems (Schindler)...
so where is the NEW homepage?
amiga.com updated : Comment 35 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Francesco on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
I can't believe that 6 days after the big show event
they still don't have a running site with all the
news and announces and even more...
I think they still have far to go in the communication
field... (whatever the reasons for the lateness)...
the web site would have had to be ready BEFORE the
event! Look at other main firm web sites and make
the parallel... enough said.
amiga.com updated : Comment 36 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
I'm starting to think this is'nt a DNS issue, its should'nt take this long to sort itself out. Any thoughts?
amiga.com updated : Comment 37 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Rippetoe on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Francesco):
I aggree although Bill McEwen did email me this statement.
on Tue, Apr 4, 2000, at 11:56 AM, Bill McEwen wrote:
This was done on purpose.
With M$ ruling occurring on Monday it would get all of the impact and news
for at least Monday and Tuesday.
We will put the releases up in Wednesday after they have died down a bit,
and then have a much stronger impact. Had I not seen the failure of a
settlement over the weekend we would have had them up on Monday.
Timing is everything.
Regards,
Bill McEwen
which is rather lame IMHO since the news still isn't up on the site at my ip at least.
amiga.com updated : Comment 38 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Mark Rippetoe):
I've tried dialing through a 4 different ISP's in the UK and am still unable to get the proper site to work (I mean without knowing the IP). Suppose they all go through the same gateway??
amiga.com updated : Comment 39 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Eric on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (BH):
Hmm, the Softimage site looks nice initially, but as a web site it
sucks quite profoundly. All graphics, no text, messed up design
with too much horizontal scrolling, broken frame code (maybe the
javascript works better but since hardly anybody can write proper
javascript, maybe not).
Then again, it's better to have something that (sort of) works, as
opposed to the "new" Amiga site, which I can't judge because it's
*still* not working.
--Eric
amiga.com updated : Comment 40 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Radfoo on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Wahooooooooooooooooooo, its working at last. Well, at least its working through my ISP.
My official review of the new (old?!?!?!) web site is that it's . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . okay!
amiga.com updated : Comment 41 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by BH on 06-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Eric):
I agree that the softimage website doesn't work on all levels, but the visual "impact" factor seems to be there at least. As for the javascript, the new Amiga site has javascript mouseovers as well. You can have both graphics, and then the text links as well on the page. I hate frames, so I wouldn't add that either.
I threw together a prototype in my spare time of what I was kind of thinking. It has no navigation yet,lacking content and the likes, but you might get the idea of what I was thinking...
http://www.icenter.net/~huebs/amiga/
Give me your thoughts....
Brian H
BH
amiga.com updated : Comment 42 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Eric on 06-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (BH):
Frames have their uses...I generally don't like them, but I did do a
site that used them.
As for www.icenter.net/~huebs/amiga/ ...very nice Amiga graphic
indeed! However it failed to display properly on any Amiga browser I
tried, although it worked on IBrowse if I resized the window to around
640 pixels wide. I only glanced at the source so I'm not sure why
this is.
--Eric
amiga.com updated : Comment 43 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Brian H on 06-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Eric):
Hey, thanks for the input. I had no idea that it wouldn't display properly in an Amiga browser. I need to get my internet account running in WinUAE and check it out.
Thanks,
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