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[Motd] MOTD 25/Dec/2000ANN.lu
Posted on 25-Dec-2000 14:41 GMT by Christian Kemp14 comments
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Just a short update on what's happening behind the scenes here at ANN. I still don't have the DSL line I subscribed for about two months ago. I do have a new machine, however (Duron 750). In case you've been wondering, I won at the Luxembourgish Web Awards, but what I learned about them shortly before and after the awards made me not only boycot the awards show, but also keep a low profile about them on here. But thanks for voting anyway. :) In other news, there's a new direct advertiser running (see above), so check them out even if it's not Amiga-related. :) Oh, and finally: No message posted in late December would be complete without the obligatory "merry xmas and happy new year" wishes.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 1 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
What was the problem with the awards? I guess there are others who are just as curious as I am.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 2 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Marco Ridoni on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Mark Olsen):
The same goes for me, also because I think that people who voted would like to know if something was wrong with the competition.
Marco Ridoni
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 3 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Marco Ridoni):
Also curious about the new sponsor!
V. frustrated that because of a xxxxxxxxx developer, that is not storeshop.com there :(
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 4 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Marco Ridoni):
Yes, yes. Me too. That two line is not as informative.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 5 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
The reason why I don't really want to put much on the main page is that some of the information is from a friend who worked there, and what I was told might not be meant to go any further than that.
What I noticed myself was that the company holding the awards put the two sites in one category, for reasons I cannot quite understand, and when I found out about this (they only mailed me one invitation to the award ceremony) two days before the awards, they didn't even have the decency to apologize, or what would have been fair, to move ANN over in the editorial section where it belonged. To be more precise, beside an initial email exchange, they didn't even get back to me on what seems like a genuine mistake on their end.
I'm sorry if this is all I can say, but I'm sure you'll understand that I can't publically criticize something that I would normally not be entitled to know; and I'm already on thin grounds because I'm admitting that, should anybody in the knowledge read this.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 6 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by nOM^ on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
If you don't want to tell it ... then don't post a message
and tell half of it.
Merry x-mass all
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 7 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (nOM^):
> If you don't want to tell it ... then don't post a message
> and tell half of it.
I told all I could tell, which I suppose is better than to just ignore requests or pretend that I can't tell anything at all, since that would look dubious too.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 8 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Ferguson on 24-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
Are you doing that great job with a worse connection than DSL?? cool. I leaved DSL and subscribed to Cable since DSL was limited with 300kbits here..Now I got 1.1Mbits.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 9 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 25-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Ferguson):
> Are you doing that great job with a worse connection than DSL?? cool. I leaved DSL and subscribed to Cable since DSL was limited with 300kbits here..Now I got 1.1Mbits.
I'm on a 64k ISDN dialup line here, in a country where phone calls are billed by the minute.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 10 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Sir RUSH on 25-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
Merry Christmas all! Party Hard for the End & Change of the New Millennium (2001)!!
Keep up the Great work, Chris. Some information is better than none also. :)
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 11 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 25-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Christian Kemp):
The original poster probably meant that you shouldn't have posted the note about the web awards in the first place if you can not present any real basis for your decision (or rather the implied "accusation" in the note).
While I can perfectly understand and do agree with you about your concerns in spreading information not meant to be spread, I am not totally confident that it is the right choice to go about making half-baked accusations either. That is not fair to the target of those accusations (maybe a bit harsh word, but I'm sure you get the point) since not only does it give only side of the story, it only gives a part of the said side.
Now some people may be left wondering all kinds of unrealistic and unfair things about the web awards. Perhaps and hopefully not, but that is always the possibility when making a statement like you did. I probably, in hindsight anyway, would have opted to just being quiet about it (i.e. not mentioning the awards at all, or just briefly mentioning that you've won).
If on the other hand you've learned something that you would consider crimilar or otherwise extremely dubious, there are other more appropriate channels for that. But posts like that really create more rumours than anything good.
IMHO anyway.
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 12 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Hammerhead on 25-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Janne Sirén):
Why does everybody criticize someone for what he puts up on his own site ? It's a damn good site (that's why we all regularly visit here), and as far as I'm concerned, the maintainer can say whatever the hell he likes ! Why should he act like he supports something 100% when he has reasons for thinking otherwise ?
Sometimes you'll just have to content yourself with not knowing every detail.
Besides, haven't you heard the saying "curiousity killed the cat" ? :)
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 13 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 25-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Christian Kemp):
Me too... And the fastest connection you can get here is ISDN 128k....
Buhuhuhuh:(((
MOTD 25/Dec/2000 : Comment 14 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 26-Dec-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Hammerhead):
Frankly, I am very content with not knowing every detail in this case. That is not my point.
I was just observing a general point that I personally consider important and I guess your comment only strenghtened my view. You said it, this is a great site and that's why we all come here. I agree. And since this is such a great site, the news posted here carry all the more meaning for many of us.
But with that popularity comes increased responsibility. If I were to open today a web site on some free server today and post something similar there, nobody would notice or pay any attention to what I am saying there. But that just is not the case here. People do listen and they do believe (at least more so) stuff that is posted on ANN.
The thing that probably scares me the most is that the short note about the awards really did affect the way I view that particular site. I don't even know the reasons, but a short note by a person running a respectable site has a whole lot of meaning, but since he can't describe the whole thing we are left wondering all kinds of things - maybe even think worse than we should.
And that is where the problem is. And I guess that's also why there are laws to control the media in these respects too. I'm not saying Christian shouldn't report wrongdoings if he has sufficient reason to do so, I'm just saying that one should be careful about the way they go about it. Otherwise innocent people and businesses might get blamed for things they didn't do.
Public perception is a powerful and dangerous thing. Once people have made their minds about something, the truth really doesn't matter - many will always remember that there was something fishy about something that was reported to be fishy, even if somebody would later prove otherwise.
I don't want to make any bigger deal out of this, most of my comments above are general in nature. I just commented on it since I saw other people comment on it and wanted to convey my point to Christian and others to consider. He doesn't have to agree with me, of course, and in any case he has been doing a wonderful job with the site and for that I thank him.
But I don't think my appreciation is in any way lessened by the fact that I also offer constructive criticism every now and then - quite the contrary.
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