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[News] Subway - USB controller for AmigaANN.lu
Posted on 30-Nov-2001 21:53 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselš30 comments
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KDH Datentechnik announced Subway, the USB controller for the A1200 clockport. Features include:
  • USB specification 1.1 and 2.0 compliant (full and low speed)
  • integrated root hub with 4 ports (self powered)
  • all ports protected against overcurrent and overload
  • power saving 3.3V technology
  • compatible with accelerator boards (030/040/060/PPC)
  • no mechanical problems with A1200 bus boards
  • compatible with tower housings
  • standard A1200 clockport connector
  • high speed clock interface
  • works on fast clockports (if 100% A1200 compatible)
  • available shortly
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 1 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 30-Nov-2001 21:09 GMT
Clock port? Grumble.. My A3000 doesn't have a clockport.. I wish they'd make a
Zorro based card. Is the clockport really that much easier to make than a Zorro
card?
Oh well. I have to wait for PCI drivers.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 2 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 30-Nov-2001 21:27 GMT
AFAIH the drivers are compatible with the Amithlon USB drivers.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 3 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 30-Nov-2001 21:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (David Scheibler):
What Amithlon USB drivers?
Do you mean VMC/Harald Frank's USB drivers? If so, they are not available for Amithlon yet.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 4 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 30-Nov-2001 22:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Bill Hoggett):
Yes, Harald's driver CD Rom. He spoke about that issue on
amiga-news.de IIRC.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 5 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by JW on 30-Nov-2001 22:50 GMT
I think if they actually came out with these hardware adapters in a form that could be used by all the Amiga users out there they might actually have too many sales. They seem to be scared out of their minds that some Amiga users might be able to use USB components on a full Amiga.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 6 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 30-Nov-2001 22:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (David Scheibler):
Ah, I see. I don't check amiga-news.de regularly as I don't read German, and the Babelfish makes for painful reading. :)
Is the CD-ROM on the VMC site yet?
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 7 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 30-Nov-2001 23:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill Hoggett):
In that case, you need to visit http://www.amiga-news.de/en/ ;)
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 8 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 01-Dec-2001 00:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (JW):
There are Zorro cards also with several clock-ports.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 9 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Dec-2001 00:11 GMT
Yes, I think there are Zorro cards with 4 clockports and the bandwidth should be
better than original clockport.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 10 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Shane on 01-Dec-2001 00:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (victor #):
My X-Surf has a clock port. Anyone know if it will work with that?
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 11 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Dec-2001 03:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Shane):
Support for USB modems would be nice :-)
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 12 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Doobrey on 01-Dec-2001 22:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
What about those of us 2k/3k/4k owners that dont have any zorro cards with clockports?
Are we gonna have to buy something like an X-Surf or Buddha just to be able to use USB?
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 13 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Domoney on 01-Dec-2001 22:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Shane):
Hi,
From the Specification.
"works on fast clockports (if 100% A1200 compatible)"
Guess that's it then.
Regards Michael
aka rockape
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 14 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Dec-2001 08:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (tinman):
> In that case, you need to visit
> http://www.amiga-news.de/en/ ;)
Well, yes, to get the stories I'd go there, but you don't get the comments at all and that's where the real news is revealed sometimes. I suspect this is one of those cases, as I can't find anything about Harald's CDROM in the stories themselves.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 15 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Christoffer Aronzon on 02-Dec-2001 09:06 GMT
So there are some sort of USB drivers in the works, but for what kind of hardware? Printers? Scanners? Digital cameras? Mice? Keyboards? Monitors?
Great news that it's finally arrived though :). Almost everything seems to run via USB these days.
Best regards
Christoffer A.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 16 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 02-Dec-2001 09:39 GMT
> I think if they actually came out with these hardware adapters in a form
> that could be used by all the Amiga users out there they might
> actually have too many sales. They seem to be scared out of their minds that
> some Amiga users might be able to use USB components on
> a full Amiga.
> What about those of us 2k/3k/4k owners that dont have any zorro cards with
> clockports?
> Are we gonna have to buy something like an X-Surf or Buddha just to be able
> to use USB?
It seems there is some confusion. There are many more a1200's out there in use than a2000/a3000/a4000's. If they are going to market a product they have to go for the largest market. As it seems possible that it may also work if you have another card in your machine then the only people that appear to be unable to use this are a1000/a500/a500+/a600 users. A zorro card would be nice, I imagine if the clock port version is popular then someone will make a compatible zorro & pci version eventually.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 17 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by kdh on 02-Dec-2001 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Phill):
The Subway USB controller will work with the clockport on the new VARIO card, Buddha Controller and ISDN Surfer. There are more variations (a Zorro version too) in the works. More infos/updates to the Subway controller will be released shortly.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 18 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 02-Dec-2001 10:45 GMT
Can anyone tell my what cool hardware is made for USB anyway?
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 19 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kenshiro on 02-Dec-2001 11:04 GMT
Does anyone know the bandwidth for the a1200 clockport? can it handle the 11mbit/s of Usb 1.1? and does the bandwidth change (i.e. get faster) with faster CPU?
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 20 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 02-Dec-2001 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Ahh, you are right, absolutly nothing... Really.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 21 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 02-Dec-2001 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (kdh):
Great, I've got Buddha.
Just waiting to see what USB device drivers start to appear for Amiga...
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 22 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Dec-2001 15:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Kenshiro):
*LOOOL*
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 23 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by anon on 02-Dec-2001 15:14 GMT
No mention of XSurf. Sad. Although Buddha and XSurf are from one and the same person :(
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 24 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Toner on 02-Dec-2001 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anders Kjeldsen):
I'd like a scanner someday and SCSI ones are beginning to get hard to find...
Game control pads/joysticks are beginning to use USB.
Digital Cameras.
PDAs.
Portable MP3 players.
Cool mice that don't have sticky rollers needing cleaned or special mouse pads that wear out.
Many items that may not be available in serial/parallel/SCSI/whatever versions when my current
ones grow old and quit like my modem, ZIP, etc...
But maybe this isn't interesting...
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 25 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Dec-2001 16:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Bill Toner):
>Cool mice that don't have sticky rollers needing cleaned or special mouse pads that wear out.
>
You get a new optical mousepad when you copy the old one - simple and quick. :-)
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 26 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 03-Dec-2001 15:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
I have a usb web cam, joystick, keyboard, cordless intellieye mouse & psx to pc joypad convertor on my laptop.
AFAIK none of these are available for anything other than USB.
Whether anyone will find a use on the Amiga for these devices is another matter.
Phill
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 27 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2001 15:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
Actually 11mbit/s is not even 1.5 MB/s. I wouldn't surprised if it could, at least the fast clock port version but the zorro version will handle that VERY easily.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 28 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Dec-2001 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Phill):
You have a keyboard and joystick, but you don't know if these are available for anything else other than USB??? Never seen a PS2 keyboard or a joystick that plugs into a serial port or game port adapter?
Or do you mean that you have a USB keyboard and USB joystick that only plug into a USB port? Well it would wouldn't it - it's USB. It's like having a serial mouse and complaining it only plugs into a serial port, or an AGP graphics card and complainin it won't fit in your Zorro slot.
Parallel Port Webcams have been around for years too. Hell, my daughter has a programable talking Winnie The Pooh that plugs into the printer port.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 29 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 04-Dec-2001 00:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Phill):
There is a PSX joypad adaptor for Amigas, too. I know it's supported in Wipeout, and there was a review a year or two ago in Amigactive.
Subway - USB controller for Amiga : Comment 30 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2001 10:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Phill):
>AFAIK none of these are available for anything other than USB.
>
At least my USB-mouse came with a USB to PS/2 converter.
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