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[Events] Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodieANN.lu
Posted on 29-Jul-2004 12:00 GMT by Andreas Magerl32 comments
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A German translation of the interview with Ben Hermans on the AmiWest has been published on the Amiga Future Homepage.

http://www.amigafuture.de/interactive/interview/benhermans2.php

As a special goodie you can find the first two issues of the Amiga Future on the homepage since it became undependent.

http://www.amigafuture.de/heft/af27/01.php

http://www.amigafuture.de/heft/af28/01.php

http://www.amigafuture.de/artikeldatenbank/

http://www.amigafuture.de

We wish lots of fun with it!

Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 1 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Jul-2004 12:13 GMT
Has there ever been any plans for an english version of Amiga Future? It looks interesting but I have to admit; my german sucks. :-P
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 2 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Magerl on 29-Jul-2004 12:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Sammy Nordström):
sorry no.

dont enough subscribers for a english version from our mag...
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 3 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by breed on 29-Jul-2004 12:46 GMT
Damned,

i would love to get AmigaFuture in English too!

@Andreas: Maybe a poll will show you a big interest in an English version?

;)))
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 4 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Magerl on 29-Jul-2004 12:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (breed):
a poll and real buying are 2 different hires.

we need translaters, ok, that not aa big problem.

the biggest problem are the subscibers. we need 500 subscribers.

and a 1 year abo (all 2 months) cost 65 Euro (includes covercd and p+p).
is a high price, but the p+p from germany to other countrys are very high.

i think the price is to high to make this. and we need the 500 copies from the first day...
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 5 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by breed on 29-Jul-2004 13:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Andreas Magerl):
Oh, that's rigth, maybe it will be better if i learn German!

;-)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 6 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 29-Jul-2004 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (breed):
Hundreds of people paid $50 for a t-shirt that doesn't exist, and there aren't
even 500 of them to stump up support for an English version of a popular magazine?

So much for supporting your community!

Neko
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 7 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 29-Jul-2004 15:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
Those hundreds who bought the T-shirt mostly live in German areas ;)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 8 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 29-Jul-2004 16:09 GMT
Have the english version printed and mailed from the US. Makes sense, no?
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 9 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by yoodoo on 29-Jul-2004 16:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (redrumloa):
Printing and mailing from the UK makes more sense ;)

I bet there would be more English readers in the EU than in the US.

However, I doubt that there is room for Total Amiga and an English-version Amiga Future. Perhaps the two magazines could cooperate to swap articles/reviews? That way, you'd only need a few volunteer translators.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 10 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 29-Jul-2004 16:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
But then we have all the MorphOSers to save the day don't we have... after all they hadn't been sCAMed, were they... ;)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 11 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 29-Jul-2004 18:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (pixie):
Well ding ding. Some of us were.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 12 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 29-Jul-2004 19:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (hooligan/dcs):
It has been said:
'Hundreds of people paid $50 for a t-shirt that doesn't exist'

Which I don't see a problem as such for not receiving a *free* t-shirt, I may see lack of ethics but I guess no one bought the cupon for the t-shirts alone, then continued further:

'and there aren't even 500 of them to stump up support for an English version of a popular magazine?'

Which I might add serves the MorphOSers also.

'So much for supporting your community!'

On top of this I said:'But then we have all the MorphOSers to save the day don't we have... after all they hadn't been sCAMed, were they... ;)'

What I meant was: it is also serve MorphOS community, why he had to make it as if it was only one side problem? (Being he problem the lack of support of an Amiga magazine, not the cam)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 13 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 29-Jul-2004 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (pixie):
Ok, I understood you mean that there were no-one screwed in blue side.


(I said "screwed" until the shirts are at their respective owners)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 14 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Magerl on 29-Jul-2004 20:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (redrumloa):
nice idea. but every month fly to the us to make the mag are not cheaper :)

we life and work in germany :)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 15 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 29-Jul-2004 20:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Andreas Magerl):
No no, you email the PDF pages of the mag to a printer in the U.S. who then prints and mails it. At least one Amiga magazine (Amiga Computing) did this in the past.

No need for cross-Atlantic flying; this is the digital age after all. :)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 16 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 30-Jul-2004 02:11 GMT
Some other quotes from Ben Hermans over the years:

Ben Hermans/Hyperion wrote on 09-Feb-2000: Escena CAN deliver.

Ben Hermans/Hyperion wrote on 16-May-2002 13:55:49: I think that in a few days you will feel rather stupid for describing the AmigaOne as inferior and more expensive than the Pegasos.

Ben Hermans/Hyperion wrote on 24-Apr-2002 19:37:33: Just today I was contacted by somebody working at NASA, somebody from NATO and somebody from the European Union.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 17 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Magerl on 30-Jul-2004 02:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (ehaines):
oh, for this we need a very good and 100% correct partner in the us or uk.

but this work cost money too. make the mag price higher again :/
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 18 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 31-Jul-2004 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Andreas Magerl):
How about, instead of making an international duplicate/subsidiary, drop the native languaged version for an all international version? I mean, how many readers would you loose on going from a German magazine to an english magazine because your readers don't understand english vs how many readers would you gain? Of course international subscribers would have to pay for the extra shipping costs, just like I do today for my subscription of the british magazine "Total Amiga". However, that's really not an issue for people like me, living in a country where there is no native Amiga magazine.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 19 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by hohlbirne on 31-Jul-2004 13:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Sammy Nordström):
you have no native Amiga magazine and want the germans to loose their
native Amiga magazine? What's that? Are you kidding?
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 20 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 31-Jul-2004 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (hohlbirne):
No, no, no! You got me all wrong. It would be the very same magazine from the very same country, just in a language that more people than just the germans understands. Only the ones that doesn't understand english would be at loss.

But then, I doubt any german Amiga enthusiast, or any computer enthusiast for that matter, would not understand english. Furthermore, I'd say the magazine would gain more readers than what they would loose. It's a win-win situation, no?
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 21 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 01-Aug-2004 04:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Sammy Nordström):
And again Sammy prooves himself to be a total idiot .....

German (austrian, swiss) subscribers would just go over to the A+, while international
ones will stay with Total Amiga.

Andreas would loose most of his writers (you know it's a difference between reading english
and writing an article in it).

Lot of Amiga-users in east-Germany are very likely to be very bad in english (but probraly
quite o.k. in russian ;-).

And finally, why do you think it is that there are 2 german print mags (3 if we count the
Amiga-Magazin which is only available bundled with PC-GO), while there is only 1 international
(english) one struggling to survive ?
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 22 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Aug-2004 13:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Kronos):
>And again Sammy prooves himself to be a total idiot .....

Yes, idiots are the ones coming with ideas and suggestions while the smart ones do everything they can to oppose any form of change, right?

You know, I never claimed that I would be some form of expert in the field of magazine publishing, much less the german Amiga magazine market (I didn't even know there was another german magazine called A+). All I ever did was elaborating on an idea for the sake of increasing the targeted reader segment of the magazine and reach out to more people in the Amiga community. If you think my ideas are unattainable, please just say so. Calling me an idiot is really not called for, IMO.

Now, if you insist on not selling the magazine to anyone outside germany, fine. I mean, who am I as a simple consumer to tell anyone what I would like to buy? In the business world, they call it product demand. In the Amiga world, it's called idiocy. Go figure...
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 23 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Aug-2004 13:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Sammy Nordström):
Besides, if the magazine is so opposed to the idea of becoming an international magazine, why is it marketed on international websites such as ANN.lu? Is it just because they want to tease those of us who don't speak german and tell us what we're missing out on, or...?
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 24 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 01-Aug-2004 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Sammy Nordström):
Because it is Amiga news and it is internationally interesting.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 25 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 01-Aug-2004 16:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Sammy Nordström):
German are international people too... the should not be discriminated ;)
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 26 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Aug-2004 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (itix):
>Because it is Amiga news and it is internationally interesting.

Not as long as it's in german and for german readers only.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Aug-2004 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (pixie):
The german language is not an "international" language. Only germans and a few linguistic people understands german while a language such as english is an internationally accepted language that most people in the western world, especially computer enthusiasts, understands.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 28 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Magerl on 01-Aug-2004 18:05 GMT
Oh, the users here have problems :/

we dont cancel the german version from the Amiga Future !!

we make only a english version too, when we have enough subscribers...

we dont have enough subscribers for a english version... now we dont must damage our brain for what we can do, what we cant do....
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 29 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 01-Aug-2004 18:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Sammy Nordström):
International news are just that.. international. Because they happen in an international country or international languase (as everyone) is a side effect.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 30 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 01-Aug-2004 18:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (pixie):
Ok, whatever... I'm not going to engage in a flamewar about this or anything. I've expressed my opinion now but since it doesn't seem like a constructive discussion about it is possible, I'm outta here.
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 31 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 02-Aug-2004 10:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Sammy Nordström):
Live and let live...
Interview with Ben Hermans & little goodie : Comment 32 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Aug-2004 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Sammy Nordström):
why not just learn a bit of German? Its not trivial to learn a foreign language - but its very rewarding!
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