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Posted on 07-Oct-2002 20:40 GMT by Anu Seilonen | 90 comments View flat View list |
OULU, FINLAND - October 7th, 2002 - Finnish Amiga Users Group's annual meeting was held in Oulu, Finland on September 28th, 2002. The meeting was visited by some 60 people and this well exceeded last years visitor count. Both Pegasos and AmigaOne were demonstrated at the meeting.
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Finnish Amiga Users Group's Meeting Showed AmigaOne and Pegasos
OULU, FINLAND - October 7th, 2002 - Finnish Amiga Users Group's annual meeting was held in Oulu, Finland on September 28th, 2002. The meeting was visited by some 60 people and this well exceeded last years visitor count. This didn't come as a surprise, even though the location was a bit remote for people living in the more populated south of Finland. After all, the users group had a lot more to show this year.
Travelling all the way from Holland, Sharwin and Rakesh Raghoebardayal of Coyote Flux/Thendic France, were there to demonstrate MorphOS on the Pegasos. This was the first public demonstration of Pegasos in Finland. Sharwin and Rakesh spent the entire afternoon showing off the speed and capabilities of their machine. Impressive demonstrations included J Miner, a photogrammetry software that created 3D images out of 2D photographs, and various features of MorphOS and emulation software.
Also on hand to discuss their work on MorphOS were the Finnish developers and long-time Amiga enthusiasts Teemu Suikki and Harry Sintonen. They travelled quite a distance as well, paid by Thendic France. Tomi Ollila of the original AmiTCP group was also present at the venue. Discussions about computer technology, operating systems and life in general were rampant throughout the day. Finnish Amiga Users Group offered free refreshments to all visitors, and some of the people went on to continue the discussions at a dinner later that night.
Gentle Eye Ky, the only active Amiga dealer in Finland, was also present with some of their inventory and two interesting pieces of new technology. The AmigaOneG3-SE and a prototype AmigaOne-XE motherboards were on display. Unfortunately the AmigaOneG3-SE had no working BIOS and the AmigaOne-XE, which was all ready to go and hooked up, didn't boot Linux all the way. This may be due to a configuration error or the fact that it was only a prototype. It was interesting to see AmigaOne there anyway.
Finnish Amiga Users Group also held their official annual meeting and the club is moving ahead with the help of new people and new ideas - although more input and involvement is always welcome. The event was covered on the Internet via IRC, a Shoutcast audio connection, digital photography and a webcam. Unfortunately technical problems delayed these services quite a bit. More photographs and notes from the meeting will be made available via the users group website (http://saku.amigafin.org) and the Saku e-zine.
Finnish Amiga Users Group is interested in showcasing all progress made in the extended Amiga community. In addition to the above-mentioned people, Amiga Inc. was also invited to participate. We were frequently asked about this by our members and visitors, but unfortunately Amiga Inc. did not respond to emails from group officials this time. We hope to display AmigaDE and other products from Amiga in the future, like we did last year with our demonstartions of the Party Pack and the AmigaDE Player.
If you or your company are interested in getting in touch with Finnish Amiga users, please contact the chairman of the Finnish Amiga Users Group, Anu Seilonen, at thoriel@sci.fi to organize something. You do not have to come here in person, we are happy to demonstrate products for you at our meetings. Finnish Amiga Users Group is operated by volunteers interested in supporting a common hobby, so our services are usually free of charge.
The Finnish Amiga Users Group would like to extend its warmest thank you to those who supported our meeting and made it a truly memorable event. We look forward to bringing together like-minded computer hobbyists in the future as well.
About Finnish Amiga Users Group
Finnish Amiga Users Group (officially Suomen Amiga-käyttäjät ry.) is a registered, non-profit organization dedicated to helping Finnish Amiga computer users by preserving and advancing the Amiga hobby and knowledge of the Amiga computing platform in Finland. The group aims to reach its goals through volunteer efforts such as organizing events and publishing an e-zine called Saku.
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Posted by Digby on 08-Oct-2002 16:06 GMT | In reply to Comment 31 (Christophe Decanini): Not just comparing the features but also talking about the plain facts
surrounding the whole "MOS is illegal" baloney and the "Amino" and "the name" trash.
MorphOS vs AmigaOS
1. What we know about MorphOS
a. It is OS3.1 68k application compatible.
b. It will run a new generation of MorphOS PPC applications.
c. It will come bundled with Pegasos hardware on release.
d. It is currently not available to the general public.
e. It will not be ( initially ) compatible with AmigaOS4.
f. Expected to be released sometime in December, 2002.
g. 68k is emulated, PPC runs native.
2. What we know about AmigaOS4
a. It is OS3.x 68k application compatible.
b. It will run a new generation of AmigaOS PPC applications.
c. It will come bundled with AmigaONE hardware on release.
d. It is currently not available to the general public.
e. It will not be ( initially ) compatible with MorphOS.
f. Expected to be released "before christmas 2002".
g. 68k is emulated, PPC runs native and there are some non critical libraries still expected to be 68k.
3. Who is behind MorphOS
a. It is a BPlan project.
b. Ralph Schmidt, based on a concept from the PhaseV days.
4. Who is behind AmigaOS4
a. It is a Hyperion project comissioned by Amiga Inc.
b. It uses the Amiga OS3.x sources released officially by Amiga Inc.
5. Tell me more about the bundling scheme for MorphOS
a. MorphOS, to the best of my knowledge, will come with Pegasos hardware
as the first booting operating system on it. The bundle will not be
seperable.
b. No more details known by author ( help??)
6. Tell me more about the bundling scheme for AmigaOS
a. AmigaOS4.0 will be purchasable off the shelf for Blizzard PPC and Cybervision PPC card owners.
b. AmigaOS4.0 will be supplied with AmigaONE certified hardware only.
7. What do you mean "certified AmigaONE"
a. AmigaONEs are just hardware that has been licensed for use with AmigaOS4.0
and have been through a branding and certification scheme.
b. AmigaONEs in the current generation are stock PPC motherboards with an
"anti-piracy" feature locking the board to a particular installation of AmigAOS4.0.
8. What is this "legal stink" or "FUD" between Amiga INC and MorphOS
a. No real facts are known, at this stage it is all conjecture apart from
allegation and counter allegation made on public fora by people that should know
better.
b. It is claimed by some that those behind MorphOS made "illegal" use of
AmigaOS sources to create MorphOS. To this date no evidence has been presented
publically to substantiate this claim and so should be considered with skepticism
by the reader.
c. It is claimed by some that Haage&Partner will not let Amiga INC use the AmigaOS 3.5+
source. No details are available to the public on this either.
9. Why the FUD war?
a. It is in the interest of each party that both sides have their extremist
advocates that spread misinformation and innuendo to undermine the credibility
of each solution. We ask you to judge the products by their merits on release
and stay above such behaviour.
b. Its business, look for the intent behind the innuendo and treat everything
reported as fact ( including this FAQ ) with guarded suspiscion.
10. What can I do?
a. Point out this FAQ, keep it up to date and try to keep an eye on the antics
of the marketing cohorts AKA trolls AKA advocates that spread anything other
than the basic facts.
b. Keep to the facts yourself and only follow up with flamebait with a link to this
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