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[News] Pegasos show in StockholmANN.lu
Posted on 22-Nov-2002 22:23 GMT by Adam Chodorowski12 comments
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On Sunday, December 1, the new PPC-motherboard Pegasos and operating system MorphOS will be shown in Stockholm. This is the perfect opportunity to test the system for yourself, if you happen to live nearby! The show is organized by Swedish Usergroup of Amiga on their premises, as a part of an open day that is held at the same time. The premises are open between 12.00 and 19.00; the Pegasos will be available to experiment with throughout the day. Instructions on how to get there are available at http://sua.proxxi.org/lokal.html. Please feel free to contact any member of the board if you have trouble finding or have any other questions; contact information can be found at http://sua.proxxi.org/kontakta.html.
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Comment 1someone funny :)23-Nov-2002 10:26 GMT
Comment 2Lennart Fridén23-Nov-2002 13:10 GMT
Comment 3RAG23-Nov-2002 19:16 GMT
Comment 4Hagge24-Nov-2002 09:19 GMT
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Comment 6samface25-Nov-2002 01:39 GMT
Comment 7Lennart Fridén25-Nov-2002 06:22 GMT
Comment 8Lawd25-Nov-2002 07:04 GMT
Comment 9Lennart Fridén25-Nov-2002 08:01 GMT
Comment 10Lawd25-Nov-2002 10:27 GMT
Pegasos show in Stockholm : Comment 11 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 26-Nov-2002 00:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lawd):
"It is simply not compatible with sound market economics, and will kill a good product (AOS). The market in general won't abstain from buying ainc's IP (AOS) because they do or don't *like* the licencing scheme, people aren't that idealistic, they won't buy it because it's made an unnecessarily crippled product - they'd have to buy a particular new piece of hardware via a particular distributor, there's a 100% unnecessary extra "barrier to entry" to overcome to actually buy the product."
The M$ approach which you're spreading propaganda for simply isn't feasible for Amiga Inc. There are several numbers of reasons for this, such as:
* There is no such thing as an open PPC firmware standard. No, POP is not an open firmware standard. This means that the OS *has to* be adopted for each PPC hardware it's supposed to run on, regardless if there are some strange unknown hardware manufacturer out there which has created a motherboard very similar and probably compatible with an already licensed motherboard. You see, if they let people run the OS on whatever PPC hardware they like and the OS would turn out to run in a very unstable fashion, who would get the blame; Amiga Inc. or the hardware manufacturer?
* If there is something we should learn from the M$ industry, then it is "the power of the boot code". You see, most users buys a computer, not hardware and software. They mostly don't even know the meaning of the terms, for christ sake! So, if you want your OS to sell, bundle it with the hardware. As a positive side effect, this also reduces piracy as you don't need to pirate software that is included and preinstalled on the hardware.
* When you're operating on such a small and nearly extinct market like the Amiga market, you simply cannot release an OS based on some kind of non-existant PPC hardware standard and then expect hardware manufacturers magicly start making hardware for it. They *need* to closely cooperate in order to bring their customers a complete solution rather than just a part of it. Just like M$ cooperated with IBM back in those days, Amiga Inc. has turned to Eyetech. The "Windows certified hardware" market that we have today evolved through this kind of cooperation, and look where it got them.
Your ignorant insinuations that Amiga Inc. wouldn't have anything to do with hardware is utter and complete nonsense! All they ever did was outsource the production of the hardware. The Amiga is still a *computer*, including hardware as well as software.
Also, may I ask you to please stop refering to the hardware verification binaries as "crippling" the hardware? You see, the hardware verification binaries will NOT effect the performance of the hardware in any way at all and won't even be noticable by the user. Where did you get this from, Seehund? Surely sounds like it.
Now call me a troll or whatever you like, I don't care because *I* know that I have perfectly good reasoning behind my postings. Suprise me by prooving me wrong or atleast give me plausible arguments for your cause rather than dismissing me as a troll for a change.
You know, I have yet to see the arguments for why the actions of Seehund, for example, would be *helpful* to the Amiga market. I mean, even if you would have a good reason for disliking their licensing policies, how in the world could his petition and the articles/postings on nearly every computer related newssite out there be good for the Amiga? I mean, imagine that you haven't heard anything about the Amiga for many years until now, what would your reaction be if this is the first thing that you hear about it? That's right, you would loose your interest just as fast as it hit you.
So, go on and keep preaching to us about how evil Amiga Inc. is and how this will kill the Amiga. Be persistent enough and you might even succeed as well as make your doom predictions come true. Just answer me this, will you tell us "told you so" then?
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