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| Posted on 18-May-2003 20:41 GMT by Jürgen Schober | 86 comments
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AmigaOS 4.0 on display across Europe.
point.design präsentiert die aktuelle AmigaOS 4.0 Version als Preview in einer Raodshow durch Europa:
Die AmigaOS 4.0 Tour findet am
07. Juni, BOF Multimedia Store, Ljubljana, Slowenien
14. Juni, Amiga Club Augsburg, Deutschland
28. Juni, BOF Shopping-Center West, Graz, Österreich
05. Juli, Amiga Alpe Adria, Udine, Italien
05. Juli, Amont Informatique, Toulouse, Frankreich
statt.
Geplant ist die Vorführung AmigaOS auf CyberStorm PPC (PPC Native Kernel!) sowie aktuelle AmigaOS 4.0 Komponenten wie Roadshow, AmigaInput, Mount-Rainer (CD/RW), etc. im neuen AmigaOS 4.0 Design.
Außerdem werden zahlreiche AmigaOne G3/G4 Computer vorgeführt werden.
Weitere Überaschungen sind in Vorbereitung.
Mehr Information unter http://www.oase.at/amigaos4ontour.html und auf unseren Partner-Web-Sites.
Wir freuen uns auf Euren Besuch!
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point.design presents the AmigaOS 4.0 on Tour roadshow accross Europe.
Several events will take place on
June, 7th, BOF Multimedia Store, Ljubljana, Slowenia
June, 14th, Amiga Club Augsburg, Germany
June, 28th, BOF, Shopping-Center West, Graz, Austria
July, 5th, Amiga Alpe Adria, Udine, Italy
July, 5th, Amont Informatique, Toulouse, France
The planing so far goes to have AmigaOS4.0 running on a CyberStorm PPC (with a native PPC kernel), as well as having current modules like Roadshow, AmigaInput, Mount-Rainer (CD/RW), etc. with the new AmigaOS4.0 design on display.
Also you will find various AmigaOne G3/G4 Machines on the show.
More surprises are on schedule.
Please visit http://www.oase.at/amigaos4ontour.html and our partner web sites for more information.
We are looking forward to see you at the show(s)!
Jürgen Schober
point.design
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| Posted by Anonymous on 19-May-2003 03:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (Atheist2):
"For some strange reason, SUSE linux came with PySol. It starts, then quits, 8 seconds later, by itself. "
Never futzed around with Linux. Far, far, FAR too klunky. It's as I've always said: "Linux is free if your time is worthless."
"Some peple have all the luck. My system seems stable too. Then, a couple of days ago, it booted up in 640*480, so I shut it down and re-booted, it said "saving your settings", then shut down. I didn't change anything at all. When it re-booted, it was in 1280*1024, again?!?"
Since this isn't a PC support forum I honestly don't want to launch into the hows and whys of this. Feel free to send an email address in your next post though...I'd be happy to help.
"Well, we would be able to boot off of a 1.44 meg floppy, if it had 16 megs of flash rom."
This doesn't parse at all. Can you rephrase it?
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still manually install a program? "
Depends on the package; some folks use the auto-unpack/run features of WinZip; others use self-installation tools. Typically I let them do the job. I've yet to run in to a program that won't let me steer it to a different directory.
"Curious thing about the ms-dos prompt in w98se. When the autoexec.bat started, xcopy worked one way, then, after w98se was launched and you open the ms-dos window, it worked another way. Made using w98se useless for me."
Wait - you couldn't take a minute or two to learn a command line switch?
Either way, thank god 98, ME and so forth are going away...
"I choose to "wave" goodbye to it. "
I hope for their sake Hyperion doens't have such a flip attitude. The ability to secure a workstation is paramount to making an OS that works in a multiuser environment. If you can't leap that hurdle, just resign yourself to selling a few thousand copies and having done with - you'll never make it in the professional world.
"Yes, while the browser is working, but if the broswer/e-mail program is quit, your computer has no business receiving and responding to signals from the ethernet card."
What if I'm hosting shares? What if the remote printer is shared? What if the computer is connected to a LAN and has a scheduled app that will print out periodic reports or upload (or download) files to/from a server or other client? All of which must be done in a multi-user environment from time to time, and can be done from a locked workstation (services don't stop just because you secure the desktop)? What about IP address leases? What about MAC Address cataloging on the server and in the router?
"I went to the SUSE on-line database, and a search showed NOTHING about a ram disk being avaiable. "
Ah, another failing of Linux...
"I have a RAID HD, with a 2.26 MHz P4 and it takes 4 seconds to launch a solitare card game on SUSE?!? This is supposed to impress me? "
If your P4 is running at 2.26 Mhz, you've got bigger problems than launching solitaire.
I'd talk to a sysadmin about that, I tell you what.
"What if you alter settings, move/rename files, alter icons etc, then feel that you need it back to normal? On my DH0: I had it down to 3 directories in the root, and the rest were in a sub directory.
Attic (all my SW)
S (contains startup-sequence)
Devs (contains system-configuration)
I have those directories and S, Devs contain 1 file each, and the rest of the OS is elsewhere in the Attic subdir. It took a lot of trial and error to get it to work, hence, a few re-installs."
Never had a problem under 2000 or XP. Back up email, back up "static" files (images/movies/sounds), ker-nuke, stick the CD in, go to lunch, come back and reinstall the apps, pull the files back, have done with.
But that's just me. I'm one of those people who just has all the luck :)
> and a "rollback mode".
"Funny, I lost my HD partion info when I tried to install SUSE. I tried 3 different recovery programs. They didn't work. Turns out, you really need an OS installed to run one of those, but then, you wouldn't necessarily need a recovery program. I had to reformat the HD and re-install xp. Alot of help "rollback back" was."
"Rollback back"? Anyway, I'll gladly sacrifice a few hundred megs of HD real estate to XP's rollback tool. And it did save my butt once or twice (I downloaded a hacked driver that would allegedly force a not-supported capture card to work under XP. Oops. All sortsa weird stuff!)
"YES I do. There are people out there (many of them) that are sick of the BS."
Okay, that's fine. Be sick of the BS. No IT manager in his right mind would use OS4. Or 4.2. None. Sorry. It's just That Way. I outlined the reasons and you started on about SUSE and how you don't want a multiuser environment or the ability to secure a workstation and should be able to shut off the NIC (?!?)
"Why are you so negative? I'm not a pie in the sky, whimsical user. I've used computers since 1978."
I've watched MASH since 1975 but that doesn't mean I'm an Army doctor. But that aside, I'm not being *negative*, I'm being *realistic*. Look, you want to enjoy OS4. Fine. Best of luck. I hope you dig it. If I could afford the frivilous purchase of an A1 right now, I'd buy it and the new OS...erm, wait, I'd buy them when OS4 was on sale (not "pre order" not "coming soon" not "being demo'ed" but ON SALE) for the A1 and I'd have lots of fun playing with it.
But it's not going to stand up against pro OS's right now. I'm sorry; it isn't. And it would fail to even rate a raised eyebrow if it doesn't have critical network capabilities - and that means more than a TCP/IP stack.
"Have you used that pathetic joke command called fdisk, that they expect you to use to format your hard drive to install w98se??"
Nope. Typically it's a straight-from-CD install.
"Okay, so that's going back 8 years. How about this then. Just yesterday, I opened 2 windows, and dragged across all the files off of a cd to my RAID HD. it was about 660 megs. xp took 22 minutes to copy it across, off of a 56 speed cd-rom."
Surely you don't believe the "56x" on that CD-ROM, do you? Download a diagnostic app and find out what your data transfer rate is - you'd be surprised (apalled). Most CD-ROMs I've used rarely, on reads, clock more than 28x-ish.
" Even funnier was, the countdown clock went down to 18 mins, then back up to 20!! THEN, I copied another cd across, same amount of data, in an ms-dos shell, it took about 3 to 4 mins.???????? "
Well, there's a WHOLE LOT of variables in there. What else was open? HOw fragmented was the volume? Was the CD clean (yes, it makes a difference)? What bus connection does the CD-ROM have? Etc. etc., etc.
"AmigaOne! I at the point of, AmigaOne, or abandon computing."
I've never had a passionate dislike or like for a computer that would drive me to quit enjoying them if I didn't get my way. For me, it's all about the applications. And windows has all the cool toys. All of them.
Maybe the A1 will someday. If that happens, I'll go there instead.
Frankly if all computers were driven by a command shell only with each app having it's own GUI, I'd *still* use computers. Because output is the name of the game. Not whether or not the OS uses a Startup Sequence, a Registry or a Start Folder. |
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