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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Jul-2003 13:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 149 (samface): Running DOpus on a PC with Windows through emulation does not somehow turn my Windows PC into an Amiga.
--- No but if you're purchasing Amiga Applications and using them you are supporting Amiga developers and their business. You're not supporting AI but some would say you're an Amiga User still. Also add on that AI has approved and I assume absorbs some royalties from Amiga Forever on the PC. The question wasn't what is Amiga Hardware the question was what is an Amiga user. Some people have a broader definition then you do.
'The fact that we nowadays are divided into seperate groups of different kind of users with different operating systems and hardware as well as interests supports my argument that we are NOT a part of the same community.'
--- That's one view. The other view is that Amiga Users buy and use software that's developed for the Amiga system on their hardware and the hardware is 'open' to whatever runs Amiga Applications.
I agree that the Amiga community has been divided by the actions of Amiga Inc (Amiga Forever) and further by PegasOS/MorphOS (unlicensed integration). We need to see some leadership to pull the community together. I've heard lots from Amiga Inc of this great AmigaOS 4.0 coming Christmas 2001 then 2 and now 3. Let's see some action.
'Furthermore, why would it be Amiga Inc.'s fault that people like you has chosen an alternative platform? '
Amiga Inc - fault one Amiga Forever approval. According to your first statement you said PC running DOpus isn't an Amiga. Yet, Amiga Inc's action disagree with you as they approved Amiga Forever to be sold. This allows PC's to run the AmigaOS in emulation and thus run DOpus. So, they fractionalized the community by saying use the A1200/A4000T w/ AmigaOS for application OR use PC hardware w/ approved emulation w/ AmigaOS for applications. Fault one to Amiga Inc. for direct action taken and spliting the user base.
Amiga Inc - fault two Amithlon approval. It appears that in some fashion Amiga Inc. may have approved Amithlon for sale. Yes there are disagreements beteen Haage-Partner and Amiga Inc. about this. But, similar to the Amiga Forever, fault two for allowing Amithlon to be. This could be seen as a direct (allowing Amithlon) or indirect (not suing Haage-Partner in court) action of Amiga Inc.
Amiga Inc - fault three missed announced timelines. How many times have we heard a new AmigaOS is coming along with new Amiga hardware? I think this started from Amiga Inc back in 2001. They have failed to supply the desires of the user base. In their time of inaction it allowed breathing room for a competitor to step in ,MorphOS, additionally it appears they have yet to address MorphOS's use of the AmigaOS binaries. Are what people doing to get Amiga Applications to run under MorphOS legal under the copywrite and the EULA for AmigaOS 3.x? Fault three for Amiga, though I give you this isn't directly to their action but indirect fault due to inaction.
So, I hope you can see 3 faults on Amiga Inc. why people were allowed to choose an alternative platform. They directly and indirectly allowed this state.
'Don't you make your own choices? '
--- Yes people make their own choices. However, see the faults above, the choices coming into existence were directly or indirectly an outcome of Amiga Inc.'s action (inaction being an action.)
'alternatives like MorphOS and AROS existed long before the current owners of the brand took over'
--- Really? My recollection is that PegasOS w/ MorphOS combination is under a year old, in it's operational form, I think the current owners of Amiga Inc. took over 3 years ago, if memory serves me correctly. (I did a quick check and there's Executive Updates from Bill McEwen from May of 2000.) I don't think MorphOS is 3 years old? AROS I don't follow so can't clarify on that one.
' how could the current Amiga Inc. possibly have prevented it?'
--- MorphOS is under 3 years old Amiga Inc. could have taken people to court over breaking copywrites or breaking EULA's of it's intellectual property.
--- Amiga Inc. could have shipped a product (AmigaOS 4) in a timely fashion and helped to prevent a pent up demand for a PPC Amiga being filled by a competitor.
--- Amiga Inc. could have not approved Amiga Forever and not approved Amithlon.
Businesses need to look out for their interests. If Amiga Inc considered Amiga Hardware, Amiga OS, and Amiga Applications to be the only true Amiga then they have taken action to push that idea, drive the product to market, and protect intellectual property.
Really you make it sound like Amiga Inc. is free of any responsiblity. I, however, disagree with that concept they have both directly and indirectly caused the question of what is an Amiga User to come into being. |
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