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[News] bPlan website foundANN.lu
Posted on 31-Oct-2000 15:17 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä14 comments
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Philipp Luthard informs that a website of the mysterious bPlan GmbH recently mentioned in an Amiga Inc press release has been discovered. It's at a not-so-surprising url bplan-gmbh.de. A whois search tells that the site is owned by one Thomas Knaebel. More details below.

domain: bplan-gmbh.de
descr: Thomas Knaebel
descr: bplan
descr: In der Au 27
descr: D-61440 Oberursel
descr: Germany
admin-c: TK8775-RIPE
tech-c: WWW8-RIPE
zone-c: HD4-RIPE
nsentry: bplan-gmbh.de IN A 192.67.198.6
nsentry: www.bplan-gmbh.de IN A 192.67.198.6
nsentry: bplan-gmbh.de IN MX 10 mailin.webmailer.de
nsentry: *.bplan-gmbh.de IN MX 10 mailin.webmailer.de
status: connect
changed: lastchange@denic.de 20000815
source: DENIC

person: Thomas Knaebel
address: bplan
address: In der Au 27
address: 61440 Oberursel
address: DE
e-mail: bplan@edv-knaebel.de
nic-hdl: TK8775-RIPE
changed: lastchange@denic.de 20000811
source: DENIC

role: Webmailers Webmaster Workers
address: Carnotstrasse 6
address: 10587 Berlin
address: DE
e-mail: info@webcockpit.de
nic-hdl: WWW8-RIPE
changed: lastchange@denic.de 20000321
source: DENIC

role: Hostmaster DENIC
address: DENIC eG
address: Wiesenhuettenplatz 26
address: 60329 Frankfurt am Main
address: DE
phone: +49 69 27235 272
fax-no: +49 69 27235 235
e-mail: hostmaster@denic.de
nic-hdl: HD4-RIPE
remarks: Information: http://www.denic.de
remarks: Questions: mailto:hostmaster@denic.de
remarks: Tel.: 0180 2336420 (pro Anruf 1 Gebuehreneinheit)
remarks: role account for "Hostmaster of the Day"
remarks: at the german network information center (DENIC)
remarks: Top Level Domain for Germany (.de)
changed: lastchange@denic.de 20000321
source: DENIC
bPlan website found : Comment 1 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
I must say it has been a good work done by Philipp Luthard to find this homepage.
But bplan hasn't much information on their homepage, not even about them selves. At the moment it's just a page which could be done on a few minutes and it seems like it's run on a windows box (as the address http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/index.htm is valide but not http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/index.html), or atleast the page is made on a windows box.
bPlan website found : Comment 2 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Moneyless on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
Just a short notice: thats 2 week old "news" and the address is phase5's.
bPlan website found : Comment 3 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by theJUDGE on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Moneyless):
Yea, it's pretty well known who bplan is, and who Amiga ended up going to for the
AmigaONE PPC addon board's, ironic really.
bPlan website found : Comment 4 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
Ahem, I did the same background check 2 weeks ago and I discovered
the same thing AND something else:
In Der Au 28 D-61440, Oberuselex-Phase 5's address
Thomas Kneabel, A employe of ex-Phase5?
BlizzPPC Manual: Best Boy on set: Thomas Kneabel
I think he is marked on other Blizzards Cyberstorms
and CVisions. A guy told me that his Blizz030 has
Thomas Kneabel marked on it as well as Gerald Carda.
And www.bplan-gmbh.de is on the same server as www.phase5.de
was if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe Phase5's bankruptcy was just announced because they
owned a lot of money to their liquidators and now they are
refounded under another name and firm?
Ralph Schmidt please comment here to clear things up if you
can to avoid any false rummors from flying arround.
bPlan website found : Comment 5 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Philipp Luthardt on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (theJUDGE):
Ok, no problem. I didn't know that this is old news, to me it was new.
I mailed Teemu to check the link and asked if it is really worth a news item.
Obviously he decided it is.
Phil.
bPlan website found : Comment 6 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
hehe Plan B has started.
Phase5 said they would produce some kind of PPC based mainboard. Developement progressed further then we expected?
It's nice to see that the *HW* knowledge of Phase5 is still going on.
I wonder what happened to the BlizzardG4 preorder money.
Is it yet refunded or is it maybe used to finance the bPlan AmigaOne?
Speculations Speculations...........:)
bPlan website found : Comment 7 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Mick.r on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amifan):
as far as i know no money has been refunded,at least if it has
i have not seen any of it:-(.Maybe i and possibly other people
who paid a deposit will get some form of preferential treatment
when/if any hardware is forthcoming,although this is highly
unlikely i can always hope
bPlan website found : Comment 8 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Moneyless on 30-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
It's shouldn't sound too criticising ;-).
Of course it's funny to see "Plan A went bankrupt at phase 5. Will the Plan B (=be) successfull?
Or is there only phase 1 planned?" ;-)
Speculating with Spekulatius.
bPlan website found : Comment 9 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 31-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Moneyless):
Well, I hadn't noticed it before.
bPlan website found : Comment 10 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 31-Oct-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Mick.r):
Personally, I would be very glad to see some revival of the hardware
side of Phase 5, as all the cards I bought from them worked well, and
their designs were well thought out.
I did lose money on the Pre-order for a G4 card, but IIRC this money
was supposed to be in a separate account, so it might still re-appear.
I'm not very hopeful, though.
But I guess the Phase5 people lost a lot more money than I did.
bPlan website found : Comment 11 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Markku Virtanen on 01-Nov-2000 23:00 GMT
bPlan=ex-Phase 5... Interesting... If this is true then they can finally build their so called A/Box, under the name AmigaONE. :) In some comment someone said, that its Phase 5 plan B. Makes sense to me :)
bPlan website found : Comment 12 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Markku Virtanen on 01-Nov-2000 23:00 GMT
bPlan=ex-Phase 5... Interesting... If this is true then they can finally build their so called A-Box, under the name AmigaONE. :) In some comment someone said, that its Phase 5 plan B. Makes sense to me :)
bPlan website found : Comment 13 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Gerd Kautzmann ( ex P5 employer ) on 01-Nov-2000 23:00 GMT
Thomas Knäbel ( Knaebel ) ist definitely an Ex kolegue.
He was leader of the repair and produktion department.
He even made some basic works when a new produkt was
developed ( building up prototypes etc .... )
Just for your information:
the orinial Phase 5 company was founded from some Amiga Fans
( Wolf Dietrich & Gerald Carda ) the first employers where
all friend of them.
Usually you will find the names of the friends on the manuals.
regards Gerd Kautzmann
bPlan website found : Comment 14 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Gerd Kautzmann ( ex P5 employer ) on 01-Nov-2000 23:00 GMT
Thomas Knäbel ( Knaebel ) ist definitely an Ex kolegue.
He was leader of the repair and produktion department.
He even made some basic works when a new produkt was
developed ( building up prototypes etc .... )
Just for your information:
the orinial Phase 5 company was founded from some Amiga Fans
( Wolf Dietrich & Gerald Carda ) the first employers where
all friend of them.
Usually you will find the names of the friends on the manuals.
regards Gerd Kautzmann
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