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[News] neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expectedANN.lu
Posted on 23-May-2002 20:36 GMT by Christophe Decanini116 comments
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neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 1 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 23-May-2002 19:06 GMT
Interference by "third parties".. Interesting..
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 2 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 19:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anders Kjeldsen):
"However, we do expect that the television report will be rescheduled in the
not too distant future when these matters have been resolved. We are moving
diligently to expedite the now required process."
More interesting ;)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 3 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 23-May-2002 19:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (David Scheibler):
Yes, I just hope they'll be more careful with their announcements in the future. I guess there will always be other parties which will try to fuck it up no matter what.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 4 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 23-May-2002 19:43 GMT
Wouldn't it be interesting if BPlan got in first and sued Amiga Inc!?
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 5 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 23-May-2002 19:50 GMT
You mean that someone informed 3Sat that they were NOT showing a real AmigaOne + OS4 as they were expecting, but a cheap rip-off??? Awwww... boo hoo. My heart bleeds for poor old bPlan who thought they were going to get away with a major underhanded publicity stunt.
Amazing how the same old faces come to the defence of these crooks time and time again. When your precious bPlan is dead and all that's left is Amiga Inc then don't bother coming crying to us real Amiga users to take you back... we know who you are and we don't want your kind around here.
Question: Why put someone in charge of "moderation" when the person is so OBVIOUSLY biased to a totally hostile competitor?
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 6 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 23-May-2002 19:51 GMT
It's like a soap opera I tell you........only they are using the joke soap that just makes things dirtier
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 7 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 23-May-2002 20:00 GMT
Yawn, yawn. In the 80s it was Atari, IBM and Apple that were the mortal enemies. In the 90s it was Sega and Nintendo that were offsprings of the devil. More recently, it's Microsoft and BPlan that have to endure endless streams of hatred.
Where is this going to end? Isn't it time we got over this religious hatred of other platforms? Isn't it time we got over a loyalty to a brandname and thought more about the products?
And you think if MOS disappears there'll be a mass clamouring to get back involved with AmigaOS? Don't be silly, there'd be so much bad feeling that the MOS fans would end up working with AROS or some other platform.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 8 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 23-May-2002 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darrin):
This morning I asked 3sat to give us "something" about the removed "preview".
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 9 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 23-May-2002 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
This is the official "thing" written by 3sat:
"Das ursprünglich vorgesehene Thema Amiga - Back to the Roots entfällt. Aus aktuellen Gründen wird sich neues. computer und mehr mit den aktuellen gesetzlichen Entwicklungen im Hinblick auf neue Medien, insbesondere Computerspiele, beschäftigen. Daniel Rasch begrüsst zu diesem Thema im Studio den Justizminister des Landes Rhein-land-Pfalz, Herbert Mertin (FDP), und einen Vertreter des Verbandes der Unterhaltungs-software Deutschland, VUD (angefragt)."
translated with Altavista:
"the originally planned topic Amiga - bake ton the roots is void. For current reasons new computer and more will be occupied with the current legal developments regarding new media, in particular computer games. Daniel rapid welcomes to this topic in the studio the Minister of Justice of the country Rhineland-Palatinate, Herbert Mertin (FDP), and a representative of the federation of the maintenance software Germany, VUD (inquired)."
Read it here: http://www.3sat.de/neues/sendungen/show/32914/index.html
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 10 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 20:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>Yes, I just hope they'll be more careful with their announcements in the future
If you mean the 3SAT announcement that was not done by bplan. That was 3Sat's
fault. BTW: The German text on 3sat never said that they will show the AmigaOne
but that neues will show the successor of the AmigaOne ;)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 11 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza on 23-May-2002 20:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (David Scheibler):
So bplan actually pretended that they were going to show a new Amiga computer, but it was really just a PowerPC based computer without any licenses from Amiga running an OS that has inherited AmigaOS API?
And some of you people keep telling me this is a credible company?
I'm sorry, I like their hardware and I'm excited to see what MorphOS will turn out to be, but this smelled bad.
I might as well buy myself a poorly known HK, run Wine on it and tell the world I'm making the new MS Windows, heh,. Would've been economical suicide :)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 12 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Prang on 23-May-2002 20:34 GMT
Ive been listening on the side lines for awhile and I have an observation/question.
Why does MOS have to be related to Amiga? Can it not stand alone as MOS running native MOS software?
Is its whole purpose to try and take over a market that was assumed available. Now that someone is has taken proper control of the Amiga product line and has plan to continue with it it is not readily available as a easily won over market.
If you remember BEOS also started on that strategy. It asuumed it could simply step in and replace the failed Commodore/Amiga. This didn't work and eventually BE moved onto other markets. Eventually MS managed to kill it with its "licensing policy"
I think If MOS is to survive(litigation aside)they should consider being them selves and stop trying to be Amiga.
I drink Coke because I like it. There is nothing Pepsi can say that will make Pepsi taste better to me.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 13 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 20:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darrin):
>Amazing how the same old faces come to the defence of these crooks time and time again. When your precious bPlan is dead and all that's left is Amiga Inc then don't bother coming crying to us real Amiga users to take you back... we know who you are and we don't want your kind around here.
Hey! Speak for yourself. I'm not one to hold grudges....especially for something so petty(You don't like the same computer as me so naff off!??!). AND provided Amiga Inc is still around....it's not going to last much longer on the Amiga name without something user friendly to back it up.
>Question: Why put someone in charge of "moderation" when the person is so OBVIOUSLY biased to a totally hostile competitor?
He's reporting on a topic which visitors (on both sides) to this site might be interested in. Just ignore it...unless you're a purist freak.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 14 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Ullrich on 23-May-2002 20:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (David Scheibler):
"The German text on 3sat never said that they will show the AmigaOne
but that neues will show the successor of the AmigaOne"
Oh - you cannot read German too?
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 15 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 20:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Nicolas Mendoza):
>So bplan actually pretended that they were going to show a new Amiga computer,
>but it was really just a PowerPC based computer without any licenses from
>Amiga running an OS that has inherited AmigaOS API?
It seems you misunderstood what I said. I'm sure *bplan did* not say that they'll show an Amiga computer.
It's quite simple: neues does know "nothing" about Amiga or bplan. Already in
their "Amiga2001" show report neues has perviewed the Pegasos and has put it in
connection with Amiga (btw: neues also made some bad jokes about Amiga Inc. in
this report). Strangely back in November nobody from Amiga Inc. sent an email
to neues to correct this issue...
Ok now back to today issues:
So neues knew a bit about bplan and Pegasos because of their former coverage.
So now bplan phones neues and says: "Hey guys Pegasos and MorphOS is ready to
show". neues: "Ok, come on May 27th to our studio.". Some neues editor to the
webmaster: "Our topics for May 27th: E3, soundcards and this pegasos computer
from bplan". webmaster: "Pegasos, bplan?!". editor: "you know we already had
something about it in november, this amiga2001 thing". webmaster: "amiga?! hmm.
<does some internet research at google>ah found it: amigaone and os4. <puts it
on the website>".
That's a scenario I find *very* likely if you know how such programs get
produced.
So to sumarize it: It was not bplan's fault.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 16 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 20:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (David Scheibler):
>It seems you misunderstood what I said.
Argh. Forget it. I misunderstood you :)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 17 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 20:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Prang):
>Is its whole purpose to try and take over a market that was assumed available. Now that someone is has taken proper control of the Amiga product line and has plan to continue with it it is not readily available as a easily won over market.
Nobody has the market as of yet. It's up for grabs to the one that produces the most compelling solution. I wish people would see that. Are you seriously telling me that if Amiga/Hyperion come out with some tosh and call it an Amiga that you'll use it?
>I drink Coke because I like it. There is nothing Pepsi can say that will make Pepsi taste better to me.
Not even if Pepsi put it in all the cool movies and have really cool ads and have babes walking down the street slurping it's precious content out of ice cool glass bottles? Huh huh? You'd be tempted then wouldn't you ...huh, huh.
Or what if Pepsi bought all the water supplies in the world and re-named water Pepsi....then you'd have to drink Pepsi. ;)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 18 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darrin):
"Totally hostile"... BULLSHIT my friend...
Would you still say that if Hyperion didn't
exist and OS4 wasn't in the works? I don't think so...
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 19 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 21:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ullrich):
>Oh - you cannot read German too?
The German text said: "Der "AmigaOne" wird neu aufgelegt (...)"
Not: "Der "Amiga" wird neu augelegt". Surely a mistake by the webmaster, but a
funny one. But it just shows that this webmaster did not know what will be
shown at the show.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 20 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (KenH):
Forget it my friend... He doesn't understand that if bPlan closes
due to a lawsuit by Amiga Inc., we won't be in the AMIGA market
anymore but to a MS influenced closed leftover market.
The Amiga Market, even in the Commodore times, was OPEN.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 21 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 23-May-2002 21:06 GMT
@Alkis Tsapanidis,David Scheibler,smithy
I beg you people , instead of waiting for another thread to defend your bandwagon full of lackies like kronos and smithy , go outside !! Get a
fucking social life , hey and maybe even get some female company that doesn't
involve a tcp/ip stack , or some kind off dial-in system.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 22 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 23-May-2002 21:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Open how ? it was closed source , closed hardware .
Another thing i want to close is a door , on your fucking head ;)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 23 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 23-May-2002 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (David Scheibler):
>So to sumarize it: It was not bplan's fault.
Maybe not, but bplan sure as hell allowed this 'mistake' to remain until action was taken. Yes bplan needs to ride on Amiga's coat tail.
Not a flame, just an observation.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 24 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 23-May-2002 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darrin):
"Question: Why put someone in charge of "moderation" when the person is so OBVIOUSLY biased to a totally hostile competitor?"
- 1 - I'am not biased. My Amiga shop sold thousands of Amiga products. I met personnaly Alan Redhouse that showed us the first AmigaOne proto last summer. I also know some of the Hyperion crew. I also know some of the MorphOS developers. I also spoke a few times with VMC ...
If I was so biased I would have put several links to my shop for example. I would have removed all the OS4 stuff ...
- 2 - I don't work for Hyperion nor AmigaInc. I'am on this board to moderate and add some news which I do. I do not select or do favoritism. If it is an AmigaOS4 news i post it, if it is a MorphOS news I post it etc ..
- 3 - Because if you were moderating this site would be completely biased and would not reflect what is going on in the Amiga communauty but what you would like the Amiga communauty to hear. I'am not happy with every news but news are news. You are free to ask Christian if you want to moderate ANN.
- 4 - Attacking the people that are serving you is not very smart. I may stop to moderate and let the site becoming a big mess. I may also ask Christian to disable the comments to stop all this recent animosity. Christian may be tired to do this efforts and stop the site. All of that for a minority of people flaming.
- 5 - GREW UP if you do not like this news item skip it. If you are frustrated because you have been waiting too long for your new Amiga go out and do some sport, take a book and learn to program, buy an Amiga software and review it ...
- 6 - I'am fed up having to say the same thing over and over and to see there is no attitude change. I think I will be away from ANN for a while.
- 7 - I thank the readers that enjoy ANN and stay polite, quiet ... I know you are a lot. Please post some interesting news and some comment. It will lower the % of noise we had recently. ANN is a collective effort, show you can help to make it better.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 25 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Forget it my friend... He doesn't understand that if bPlan closes
due to a lawsuit by Amiga Inc., we won't be in the AMIGA market
anymore but to a MS influenced closed leftover market.
The Amiga Market, even in the Commodore times, was OPEN.
Now who's hung up on names ;) So, if Micosoft produce some cool new technology then you wouldn't buy it just because it was made by them? Granted, their practices leave alot to be desired.
As to Amiga's "alliance" with MS consider this...."A droplet of water on a boiling kettle doesn't become the kettle. It becomes something else....something greater." Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it! ;)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 26 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 23-May-2002 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (redrumloa):
>Maybe not, but bplan sure as hell allowed this 'mistake' to remain until
>action was taken. Yes bplan needs to ride on Amiga's coat tail.
That's speculation. The information on the neues homepage was there since
Friday afternoon. Then was weekend. Monday was holiday in Germany, Tuesday
morning bplan got the information about the canceling from 3sat.
And BTW: Nobody said that these actions were taken because of the information
that were on the homepage.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 27 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (cOrpse):
>@Alkis Tsapanidis,David Scheibler,smithy
I beg you people , instead of waiting for another thread to defend your bandwagon full of lackies like kronos and smithy , go outside !! Get a
fucking social life , hey and maybe even get some female company that doesn't
involve a tcp/ip stack , or some kind off dial-in system.
Sometimes I wonder who's worse. Why do some people in the throng take things so personally?
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 28 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (cOrpse):
1) You are a sad b*st*rd....
2) The HW specs were as open as your ass.
The Source of the OS was closed, but Commodore
even endorsed a book with parts of the Exec source...
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 29 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (cOrpse):
And about the fucking door in my head...
You should close the fucking door in your ass first... :)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 30 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 23-May-2002 21:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darrin):
>Question: Why put someone in charge of "moderation" when the person is so > OBVIOUSLY biased to a totally hostile competitor?
Come one now, lay off Christophe. No matter what he says or how he moderates, he will be a target to someone. Do I agree completely with Christophe about MOS or anything else? No but I don't have to.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 31 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (KenH):
I do use Microsoft products. I do NOT like their policy...
And neither do I like the behaviour Amiga Inc. recently
inherited.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 32 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Now now, what does a persons sexual preference have to do with their ability to operate a computer? ;)
OK..I'm done. I'm actually not homophobic as to be one is the first sign people look for in closet gays. And I'm not....either. *yanks foot out of mouth* ;)
>You should close the fucking door in your ass first... :)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 33 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 23-May-2002 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
So c= personnally sent you signed copies of the inner workings of the custom chips ... doubt it .
neways i'm off to bed , getting wrecked and maybe even ruined 2moz , never know might be some fitties around .. oh cut that , there will be fitties around ;D
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 34 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (KenH):
I did not say that he's gay, neither am I homophobic.
I just replied to the offensive bullshit he posted...
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 35 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (cOrpse):
They did send them to MANY developers... Wonder how all these hacks were made?
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 36 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>And neither do I like the behaviour Amiga Inc. recently
inherited.
What behaviour do you refer to? As far as I'm aware they've been quiet as mice for months. If you're talking about supporting PocketPC technology, don't bother answering...been there explained that.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 37 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 23-May-2002 21:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (KenH):
About the OEM stuff & antimos stuff... If MorphOS was PROVED to be illegal I
would say OK. But it hasn't been proved yet and still they state that it is.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 38 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Sorry. I must have mis-interpreted "open as your ass".
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 39 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 23-May-2002 21:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Congrats!
ANN just reached a new low.
(yes, I know, "he started it")
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 40 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 23-May-2002 21:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (cOrpse):
>neways i'm off to bed , getting wrecked and maybe even ruined 2moz , never
>know might be some fitties around .. oh cut that , there will be fitties
>around ;D
Sigh, noone cares about your little look-how-cool-I-am-and-talk stories.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 41 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 23-May-2002 21:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Huh what? I miss something? Someone's gay? MOS users are gay? Don't answer, LOL! I just get a laugh that in these arguements someone either gets called gay, or someone assumes someone is called gay.
When A-Org got hacked and gay porno was plastered all over it, I was called a homophobe by some anonymous twit because I called the hacker a jackass.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 42 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>About the OEM stuff & antimos stuff... If MorphOS was PROVED to be illegal I
would say OK. But it hasn't been proved yet and still they state that it is.
I don't see how the OEM is much different to the original Amiga model. If you bought an A1200, you HAD to have a copy of Amiga OS. And you HAD to put AmigaOS on AMIGA hardware.
Regarding the illegality of MOS....Fleecy was expressing his opinion. I assume he's basing this on MOS's ability to use Amiga software. He has a right to protect what Amiga have bought. Maybe here isn't the time or place to say that, but he said his lawyers OK'd it so...
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 43 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 23-May-2002 21:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (redrumloa):
>When A-Org got hacked and gay porno was plastered all over it, I was called a homophobe by some anonymous twit because I called the hacker a jackass.
Well naturally all hackers should get a big black b**ch up the a**se without any lub**cant.....when they least expect it. ROFL...it should become international law. Imagine Bush passing that one!! ;)
(ps this is a joke to everyone except hackers)
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 44 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 23-May-2002 21:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Nicolas Mendoza):
Nicholas Mendoza typed:
> So bplan actually pretended that they were going to
> show a new Amiga computer, but it was really just a
No, that's not what happened. That doesn't make sense because the blurb at 3Sat actually talked about "Amiga One" and "OS 4.0" IIRC. I don't know what happened but that makes no sense because bPlan has no reason to market Amiga One and 4.0, quite the opposite. What, you think they will sneak a Pegasos in there and say "look how great this is, its an Amiga One, go get one from Eyetech?"
A more likely scenario would be confusion on the part of the 3Sat webpage author.
As for the recent postponement of the TV segment where bPlan cites "interference of third parties" that has Ben Hermans written all over it in my speculative opinion.
And to answer the persons who accuse Christophe Decanini of bias, that is just bull. The ANN crew is NOT biased. The complaints come from people who just can't get over the fact that MorphOS and Pegasos news are welcome and appropriate on ANN, which has been stated repeatedly by the editors.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 45 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-May-2002 21:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (KenH):
> I don't see how the OEM is much different to the original Amiga model. If you
> bought an A1200, you HAD to have a copy of Amiga OS. And you HAD to put
> AmigaOS on AMIGA hardware.
True. Times have changed, though. I believe many are of the opinion that Amiga should be available on any platform without hardware restrictions (such as ROM protection) and thus feel so. But agreed, there are many quite valid ways to market your operating system. Until you have a monopoly, anyway.
> Regarding the illegality of MOS....Fleecy was expressing his opinion. I
> assume he's basing this on MOS's ability to use Amiga software. He has a
> right to protect what Amiga have bought. Maybe here isn't the time or place
> to say that, but he said his lawyers OK'd it so...
True, he was expressing his opinion. However, bPlan is innocent until proven otherwise. Amiga have the burden of proof and so far they have chosen not to press the matter through legal channels (as far as I know), but talked about it in public WITHOUT presenting their evidence. It is sheer FUD.
It may be a good legal or business strategy, though, but it is still FUD - and quite questionable in nature, even more so should bPlan ever be found innocent.
I hope Amiga wins in court if bPlan have done something wrong, I really do. But it is far from clear that they have, and yet, due to the way Amiga have been discussing the matter, a lot of work done by the MorphOS team and bPlan have been veiled in illegality to many people - without any specific evidence.
This is what makes it quite questionable. I say, take it to courts and determine the legality, and out on the market may the better product win.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 46 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-May-2002 22:08 GMT
THESE MOREFUSS PPL R CUNTS!!! GO AMIGA INC NAIL THERE ASSES!!!!!!!!!
why the fuck shloud they get away wit stealing amigas ip?????? both gary peake and fleecy and hyperon have told us the morefuss bastrards are THIEEVES, and they oughta knopw!!!! hey corpse, nice to see som TRUE AMIGANS still around!!!!!! fuck off and die morefuss trolls!!!!!!!!!
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 47 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 23-May-2002 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
LOL!
I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh.. This sort of post slays me no matter what 'side' it comes from.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 48 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 23-May-2002 22:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (redrumloa):
It was a parody, obviously.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 49 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 23-May-2002 22:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (darklite):
>Congrats!
>ANN just reached a new low.
>(yes, I know, "he started it")
Agreed. The moderator should not allow, at least, insulting messages. What a shame... :-(
Saluditos,
Ferrán.
neues / 3 SAT Pegasos show cancelation confirmation / rescheduling expected : Comment 50 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by GoatRoll on 23-May-2002 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (redrumloa):
Redrumloa, you moron. How did you ever become moderator? I never hacked amiga.org. I posted a link to depictions of a beautiful expression of love between adult, consenting men. Along came your redneck intolerant ass and deleted it, mumbling something condescending about "beastiality" IIRC. I accused you of being a homophobe, but instead of replying you deleted that as well. This was in the general forum, so it was no more off topic than e.g. the lunatic astrologist making up fan-fiction about a corporation, the dyslexic giving detailed recapitulations of his pub nights with a broken keyboard or the clown posting 386 CPU instruction listings in the developers' forum and so on ad nauseam.
Anonymous, there are 116 items in your selection [1 - 50] [51 - 100] [101 - 116]
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