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[News] Deathbed Vigil DVD at ARC 2002ANN.lu
Posted on 21-Nov-2002 00:14 GMT by Jens Schönfeld19 comments
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Dave Haynie's Deathbed Vigil film is now available as a special 8th anniversary DVD edition. Individual Computers will import it to Germany for the AMIGA + RETRO COMPUTING 2002 show in Aachen, Germany. Dave Haynie, one of the most popular developers of Commodore, has made a special edition of his film "Deathbed Vigil" for the 8th anniversary of the Commodore bankruptcy. Individual Computers will import the DVD, and offer it for 39,- EUR at the fare. Please pre-order your copy via eMail, so we'll have enough DVDs for the show.
There is no country code on the DVD, and it can be played back on all players. Audio is English only. Video and Audio haven been digitally re-mastered, and new scenes have been added that have not been published before on the VHS tape. The Bonus material contains the music video "Chicken-Lips Blues", a new short film called "Amiga Impact", and a photo album that Dave has compiled.
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Posted by Scott Pistorino on 20-Nov-2002 23:22 GMT
Where/when can I purchase it here in the states??
Scott Pistorino
www.AmigaSource.com
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Posted by James Whelan on 21-Nov-2002 10:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Scott Pistorino):
Blimey, that was quick. I'm very much looking forward to seeing it. Congratulations Dave Haynie. The video version was nothing short of compelling. Hope there's lots of extra stuff on the DVD.
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Posted by kriz on 21-Nov-2002 10:55 GMT
mmmm nice :)Mail order of the movie availible soon too ??!
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Nov-2002 11:00 GMT
39 euro? Say whaaaaat?
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Posted by Mirror on 21-Nov-2002 11:40 GMT
anyone in UK / Europe going to stock it ?
Can it be bought on like anywhere ? At e39 ($39) if i buy from the states i have to pay import duty on it as well + delivery.
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Posted by Sodapop on 21-Nov-2002 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Mirror):
39 euros ???? Damn !!!
Why the hell is it so expensive ????
Even a recent blockbuster is cheaper than that !!!
Can't beleive it....
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 21-Nov-2002 12:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Sodapop):
The latest blockbuster is manufactured in millions of units. Economies of scale and all that...
If its too much for you, then don't buy it.
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Posted by redrumloa on 21-Nov-2002 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Peter Gordon):
>The latest blockbuster is manufactured in millions of units. Economies of
>scale and all that...
I don't know about all that. I like DH and all, but this smells of price gouging. I just bought Star Wars Episode II DVD for $19.99, and it cost hundreds of millions to produce. This cost some of DH's free time and printing costs.
OTOH what do I know. I'm assuming it would sell at least in the low thousands, but if they only expect it to sell a few dozen then maybe I see why. If that's the case, it looks like it may be a self fulfilling prophesy. IMO it would easily sell in the thousands if it was the cost of a typical DVD, but price it ~2-3 times the cost of a typical DVD and most people would have bought it will pass.
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Posted by redrumloa on 21-Nov-2002 12:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (redrumloa):
BTW I *MAY* still buy it. If it was reasonably prices I would have bought 2, possibly even 3 as it would make a good holiday gift to ex-Amiga/Commodore users. But at ~$40USD I'd only consider buying one, if I have excess play money.
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Nov-2002 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (redrumloa):
Ep2 cost $120million to make. But it recouped that easily from box-office alone - on its opening weekend it took $80m in the US alone.
Rest assured that the DVD of Ep2 is not paying off the costs of the filming!
Plus the DVD of Ep2 is made in huge quantities, as others have said - you have heard of "economies of scale", right?
As for your arrogant statement that all the DB DVD took was "a few hours of DH's time" - so you expect DHY to spend his spare time working away on this DVD for free just so you can get it a little cheaper? Get real.
Ep2 DVD will sell millions. DBV DVD won't. you cannot compare the two.
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Posted by redrumloa on 21-Nov-2002 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
@anonymous
>Ep2 cost $120million to make. But it recouped that easily from box-office
>alone - on its opening weekend it took $80m in the US alone.
Yeah, so what's your point? The original DBV cost probably cost $4 to film(battery time, camcorder wear and tear, vhs tape, estimate not including DH's spare time). I dont know what kind numbers the first edition DBV sold, but it certainly recooped the cost and made a profit.
>Rest assured that the DVD of Ep2 is not paying off the costs of the filming!
>Plus the DVD of Ep2 is made in huge quantities, as others have said - you have
>heard of "economies of scale", right?
And your point again? Ep2 is made in huge quantities, yet they also spend millions of $ on advertising it. So far it looks like $0 is spent on advertising the DBV.
>As for your arrogant statement that all the DB DVD took was "a few hours of
>DH's time"
Learn to read properly and learn to cut and paste. It's funny how anonymous cowards always pretend to read something that does not exist. I never said "a few hours of DH's time" I said "This cost some of DH's free time" Who knows how many hours of his free time this took, but he himself stated it was a free time project right here on ANN.
>- so you expect DHY to spend his spare time working away on this DVD for free
>just so you can get it a little cheaper? Get real.
Did I say that? I am questioning the price point. IMO they would sell alot more copies(10X plus) with a more attractive price, you sell more you make more profit, simple math. This is my opinion as I clearly stated. DH could sell it for $2,000 a copy for as far as I care.
>Ep2 DVD will sell millions. DBV DVD won't. you cannot compare the two.
Ep2 will sell millions, yet the cost of producing the special edition DVD itself and the advertising campaign that goes along cost millions of $. DBV won't sell millions, but it could have sold thousands(imo) and cost a very negligible to produce.
Once again for anyone who is reading impaired, I have alot of respect for DH and hope his DVD sells well. I just personally feel he could have sold alot more copies and made more profit with a more attractive price.
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 21-Nov-2002 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (redrumloa):
> with a more attractive price, you sell more you make more profit, simple math
Not if Daves cost per unit is higher than your "attractive price", in which case the more you sell the bigger loss you make, also simple maths.
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Posted by redrumloa on 21-Nov-2002 14:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Peter Gordon):
>Not if Daves cost per unit is higher than your "attractive price",
If so then yes, I just don't see how. He could knock them out himself for a few bucks each. Even professionally produced with nice color glossy DVD box I cant see it being more than a few bucks each.
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Posted by redrumloa on 21-Nov-2002 14:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (redrumloa):
geez now I wish I hadn't said a word.
I in no way wish to discourage anyone from purchasing this DVD. On the contrary I hope it sells well. Dave Haynie has documented a very intersting and historical event. I will be buying a copy before years end.
BTW: Any chance in hell that there is closed captioning?
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Posted by kriz on 21-Nov-2002 14:58 GMT
hehe always something to flame about ... :)
The price aint that bad, at least it is released .. thanks.
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Posted by Jope on 21-Nov-2002 16:44 GMT
By the way, the DVD can be ordered from Jens after the Amiga & Retro show is over, so don't everyone flood him with emails asking where you can buy it.. :-)
--
Jope
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Posted by marktime on 21-Nov-2002 17:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (kriz):
yes, such passionate discussions all the time.
I, personally, will not buy the movie. I assume the price
is so high because DH figured he could make the most money that way.
After all you have to be a pretty 'special' person to spend any
amount of money on this video. It's old news, if news, and irrelevant for a long time now. The hardcore that will buy it, god bless them,
I'm happy for them, but they can spend 39 no problem.
I know there are a few people who would really like the video, and maybe you
don't have the money right now, but you can sell flowers in the airport and
you'll have your precious in no time...:)
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Posted by SlimJim on 21-Nov-2002 17:56 GMT
It's nice to see this on sale again. I have heard a lot of people wanting to find
it over the years. Personally, I'm more than satisfied with (once) ogling the copy
I got with Amiga Forever (about the same prize too), but if you really want it as a standalone film, this is a nice possibility.
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Karl on 23-Nov-2002 21:07 GMT
Look, it doesn't matter how much it costs, if someone wants it they'll buy it, so what?
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