| [Web] Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. | ANN.lu |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 1 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Troels E on 23-Nov-2002 20:58 GMT | | "what is it.. an OS for a microwawe oven?" |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 2 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by smithy on 23-Nov-2002 21:19 GMT | | Who are Genesi? |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 3 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by catohagen on 23-Nov-2002 21:51 GMT | <quote from /.>
All I can say is, Adios AMIGAs .. sucks to BE you!
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damn, the 'new' company was revealed yesterday ? and already peggy and mos
are making the real amigaos look bad...a sad day indeed... |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 4 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 23-Nov-2002 22:02 GMT | | (Of course, it would help if I could spell "featured". Bugger!) |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 5 of 31 | ANN.lu |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 6 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 24-Nov-2002 00:08 GMT | | Frankly , it seems they don't give a shit and morphOS peeps are trying to fill the thread with useless information about quark lol. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 7 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2002 01:47 GMT | In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
> Frankly , it seems they don't give a shit and morphOS peeps are trying to fill
> the thread with useless information about quark lol.
If they don't care about MOS, I wonder why should they care about AOS4... Slashdot is definitely the latest place you'd hope to find people who are interested in commercial OSs, let alone rebirths or clones of old ones. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 8 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2002 02:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (Fabio Alemagna):
Besides, I don't find those comments careless at all. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 9 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by bhickman on 24-Nov-2002 05:49 GMT | That would be too cool if Genesi could add the DE to it...
Rename and merger of bPlan and Thendic... is this a lesson in how to make two really bad company names sound even worse? Not a joke, just curious.
- Bill |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 10 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 24-Nov-2002 08:01 GMT | Finally, you people can find out that slashdot posters don't give a damn about anything Amigan.
No really, even if it ran some stupid distributed software designed to find aliens they couldnt' give a damn if they tried.
But if Linus farts in a high wind... |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 11 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rob on 24-Nov-2002 08:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 10 (strobe):
But if Linus farts in a high wind...
...you can still smell MS. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 12 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rob on 24-Nov-2002 08:57 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Rob):
Its quite funny that their hero worked for a company they loathe. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 13 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by m0ns00n on 24-Nov-2002 09:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
Sorry, but did you read the threads? They are basically handeling it like every other Amiga news, only with some confusion as the information on Morphos.de is SHIT and should be updated/closed ASAP. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 14 of 31 | ANN.lu |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 15 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by CodeSmith on 24-Nov-2002 09:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (bhickman):
Genesi and DE... rename and merger - so we get GenesiDE?
;) |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 16 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Nov-2002 10:24 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (CodeSmith):
cOrpse would love that name ;-) |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 17 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by bbrv on 24-Nov-2002 11:24 GMT | Here is something for you all to consider...;-)
Thendic (and all affiliated companies) hold a valid worldwide right and license to Amiga DE, the "Amiga" patents, and all associated copyrights and trademarks. This Agreement was signed between ourselves and Bill McEwen on 10 November 2000. The Agreement remains in effect today.
Who knows what the future could hold?!
Best regards,
Raquel and Bill |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 18 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by ikez on 24-Nov-2002 11:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (bbrv):
Hi,
Is that means that OS4 will run on Pegasos? If it's the case, that's a real good news :))
Ikez |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 19 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Bladerunner on 24-Nov-2002 12:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 18 (ikez):
No, if this is true (sorry i doubt it a little, because this sounds too fantastic perhaps the wrong bill buck?! perhaps he could make a official statement?!?!?)
they can name Pegasos Amiga Peggy or whatever Amiga Name they like, they could Name MOS AmigaOS MOS Edition or whatever they like,
they can use every part of the Amiga patents for their Products (even for the OS?) and so on.
So nobody can say anymore, hey this is not Amiga.. and more important, then there are two Amiga Desktop OS...
Pheeew... But if this is true, why didn`t they mention this earlier?!?!?!??
<<<totaly confused |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 20 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by David Scheibler on 24-Nov-2002 12:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (Bladerunner):
It's pre-Aachen time. There will be more surprises until Dec 7th/8th 2002 :) |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 21 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rob on 24-Nov-2002 13:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 18 (ikez):
You must remeber that OS4 and DE are different products. Having a DE license doesn't mean they automatically have the OS4 license as well.
If you buy windows and you want to use office you'll still have to buy office. That kind of thing. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 22 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 24-Nov-2002 14:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Ole-Egil):
cOrpse is a nick that originates from being idle for 6 months ;)
that shell account had great uptime :) |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 23 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Bill McEwen on 25-Nov-2002 01:38 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (bbrv):
I am sorry to report that the statements made here are very misleading and incorrect.
The contract mentioned was for AmigaDE on Windows CE. It does not in ANY way have anything to do with patents, or our IP.
Amiga, Inc. is the only holder of our IP
Regards,
Bill McEwen |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 24 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by bbrv on 25-Nov-2002 06:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 23 (Bill McEwen):
Dear Bill,
Of course, Amiga Inc. is the only holder of the IP. That is why we reached and Agreement about the license.
1. Please refer to Paragraph 4.2 concerning the issue you make about DE, the patents and the trademarks. You are incorrect. You are being "misleading," not us.
2. Yes, the list of products did initially include the SmartBoy which was developed for use with WindowsCE. However, the Agreement is quite clear that it applies to "any" Thendic product. We call your attention to Paragraph 2 of Appendix A specifically.
Bill, you have gone through a hard time and fought against incredible odds. Please do not let this this potential show of support become distored.
Sincerely,
R&B |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 25 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Phill on 25-Nov-2002 10:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 24 (bbrv):
Great, so now it's a "our lawyer is better than your lawyer" competition. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 26 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2002 12:15 GMT | | I think that in the future you should atleast mention it's Amiga-compatible and can trun Amiga-software. Because if you don't you might well decline number of people who are interested about Amiga, no matter if they like OS4 or MOS. Noone knows that MOS is AmigaOS-compatible. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 27 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by marktime on 25-Nov-2002 13:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
MOS is not Amiga OS 4 compatible, they never said it was....
they said it has some compatibility with older versions of Amiga OS.
Which is great, is has more compatibility than, for example, Windows 95 running UAE, or DOS running Fellow...both of which could also claim to have some level of Amiga compatibility, but far less compatibility than say Amiga OS 4, which is 100% compatible with Amiga OS 4....LOL :)
I am glad MOS has targetted the amiga community and has therefore added some features that make it more attractive to Amigans....but its not OS 4, and what we would really like, which is 100% compatibility with OS 4 and OS 4 PowerPC applications, isn't there.
Now if they get that, then I will consider Pegasos on par with Amiga XE, etc...and would probably buy one if its better and cheaper, but if it doesn't have that, then its way too expensive for being nothing more than an 'interesting diversion'....now at a certain pricepont I'll even just buy an interesting diversion....but I doubt they'll get it down to impulse buy pricing anytime soon. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 28 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 25-Nov-2002 15:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 25 (Phill):
It looks that in the other thread Ben Hermans is attacking Takis from Thendic. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 29 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Senex on 25-Nov-2002 15:22 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (marktime):
@marktime:
As we told you and the others already on Amiga.org: There's no need for OS4-compatibility atm since OS4 on AOne won't be here for a long time. And chipset-independent 3.x Amiga-software -68k as well as PPC (PowerUp, WarpUp) DOES run on MorphOS.
Some quotes from Amiga.org:
Senex: "Just want to add the following from the latest press release for the game "Tales of Tamar": 'Tales of Tamar is now running on MorphOS for Amiga and Pegasos. It benefits form the WarpUP emulation in MorphOS, which even seems to be faster than the original.'"
JoeAFUA: "As there are no native AmigaOS 4 applications for now yes indeed it's hard to be compatible with them. In fact the "AmigaOS 4" we see in the screenshots isn't compatible with these applications too (which is in fact an AmigaOS 3.x with some components planned for AmigaOS 4) :)"
Senex: "Who cares? It will still take a long time until OS4 will run on the AmigaOne (and therefore for OS4-only apps). Just because integrating the 68k-emu and all the different components takes much time and reveals many new problems. Just look at the progress the MorphOS-team made - they as well needed very much time for these steps. And if you'd need such a OS4-application really badly, you could still code an A4-Box for MorphOS."
JoeAFUA: "Yes indeed and I would add: Look at the development time of other OSes like Linux, Windows, MacOS, MacOS X, OpenBeOS...etc. You can see that even when the OS is ready (I mean everything is running together and almost complete, which is even not the case of AmigaOS 4 today), the betatesting period is at least of 6 months and even 1 year. The public betatesting period of the Jaguar update of OS X (I just talk about complete builds betatesting) have taken one year, and it's just an update for OS X 10.1 which is nothing compared to a complete port that need kernel rewrite and some other parts rewrite like OS 4. The same can be said for every OSes on the market. So according to what we see in the computing industry as soon as the first complete build will be ready for betatests, Joe Users will still have to wait at least 6 months or 1 year because of the needed betatesting period." |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 30 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2002 19:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (marktime):
>they said it has some compatibility with older versions of Amiga OS.
With applications written for OS3.x, yes. |
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| Genesi's turn to be featured on Slashdot. : Comment 31 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 26-Nov-2002 08:05 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (marktime):
Actually Windows + UAE can run more classic Amiga programs than either morphos or AmigaOS 4. |
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