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[News] Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi)ANN.lu
Posted on 11-Dec-2002 19:24 GMT by Senex (Martin Heine) (Edited on 2002-12-11 21:42:33 GMT by Christian Kemp)34 comments
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At OSNews.com there is an interview with Nicholas Blachford (Projectmanager Eclipsis, Genesi). There also are screenshots.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 1 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by MIB on 11-Dec-2002 18:35 GMT
>Nicholas Blachford: There is Hardware 3D support via the Rave3D and Warp3D APIs
Did they, or do they plan to, licence Warp3D from Hyperion ?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 2 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 11-Dec-2002 18:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (MIB):
> Did they, or do they plan to, licence Warp3D from Hyperion ?
No and no.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 3 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 11-Dec-2002 19:08 GMT
maybe reverse engeneering ?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 4 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Xeyes on 11-Dec-2002 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (MIB):
You have to "license" an API?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 5 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 11-Dec-2002 19:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Mark Olsen):
I would have expected a somewhat fuller answer - considering who wrote it ;)
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 6 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 11-Dec-2002 19:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Xeyes):
Warp3D is a commercial product
To write a driver you either need an SDK, which is only available from Hyperion.
Or you need to reverse engineer the libraries, which is a breach of the licence.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 7 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 11-Dec-2002 19:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (catohagen):
MorphOS does not have Warp3D drivers. Only Rave3D drivers...
But still Warp3D applications work thanks to Goa.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 8 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 11-Dec-2002 20:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (catohagen):
Neither... GOA is a Warp3D>Rave3D wrapper. No W3D libs are used.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 9 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 11-Dec-2002 20:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Ask again.
JRE: Quick and dirty Kaffe port or another reverse engineered JRE or official Sun sources? Which version?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 10 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by bhickman on 11-Dec-2002 21:00 GMT
The first grab is nice... the second one is just plain gaudy. The icons look almost "dorky" in a hinky sense of the word. It would take some time to get used to those things.
- Bill
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 11 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 11-Dec-2002 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (bhickman):
Someone recently commented that the Ambient interface resembles NeXTStep. Didn't they ban the use of model glue for recreational purposes?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 12 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 11-Dec-2002 21:16 GMT
Loved window gadgets and colours. Is it possible to have a default os3.1 look ? :-)
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 13 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 11-Dec-2002 21:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (DaveW):
JRE: Quick and dirty Kaffe port or another reverse engineered JRE or official Sun sources? Which version?
--
Ask Dr Havemose. AFAIK latest sun sources.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 14 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 11-Dec-2002 21:43 GMT
Nice interview, and nice screenshots. I think was about time that they released some screenshots, and man, do they look nice!! Not only is the GUI extremely responsive, but it sure looks good aswell! I really like the shades of blue. And the icons were really nice too.
And it was a good thing that they showed another skin in the screenshots than those who was previously shown. And more screenshots with more skins is obviously on their way!
Taste is highly subjective, but no mather what your taste is you will be able to find a look for the "workbench" that suits you (even if you will have to make your own custom design). No one can say that "Ambient looks ugly" now, since there is no single look thanks to the skinning abilities. It's only a matter of picking/designing a look that suits you.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 15 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar Eilert on 11-Dec-2002 21:58 GMT
>Someone recently commented that the Ambient interface resembles NeXTStep. Didn't they ban the use of model glue for recreational purposes?
I meant that comment mostly in the sense "desktop with realistic true color icons".
NeXT: http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/desktop1.gif
Morphos: http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/desktop1.gif
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 16 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Dec-2002 22:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (catohagen):
> To write a driver you either need an SDK, which is only available from Hyperion.
To write a Warp3D driver, you mean?
> Or you need to reverse engineer the libraries, which is a breach of the licence.
1) MOS doesn't have Warp3D drivers, it uses Rave3D as its 3D engine, therefore
drivers are written for Rave3D.
2) The Warp3D layer is just a wrapper around Rave3D, and you don't need any
license to reimplement APIs.
3) Reverse engineering for the sake of compatibility is not illegal in the
European Community.
4) You cannot break a license of a product that you don't have.
5) Licenses are not above law. If law permits you something, a license cannot
forbid it.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 17 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by CodeSmith on 12-Dec-2002 02:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Dietmar Eilert):
> NeXT: http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/desktop1.gif
> Morphos: http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/desktop1.gif
Amazing! Morphos looks EXACTLY like NeXT!
;)
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 18 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by RC on 12-Dec-2002 05:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Dietmar Eilert):
Err..I think you made a mistake with your URLs sir..both point to the same image.
//R//
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 19 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 12-Dec-2002 08:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Don't be too excited.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 20 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 12-Dec-2002 10:08 GMT
A bit of a shame about the icons really. If you look at them individually they look really nice. When you have them next to each other it looks really confusing though, because they're drawn at different angles. It really could do wonders for the overall look if they were all drawn in a consistent manner.
Is this something that will be fixed before release?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 21 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by André Siegel on 12-Dec-2002 10:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Thomas W):
@ Thomas W.
"Is this something that will be fixed before release?"
Take a close a look. On one the pictures, there is a window saying "JobboIcons" and one says "OcinelIcons".
Ocinel's icon set is for all geeks and technology/sci-fi fans who absolutely love colourful and varied icons with a futuristic 3D-ish look.
"JobboIcons" are a set of icons which were painted with a flat view in mind. The perspective looks more like 2D. While some icons have slightly different angles (you see them either from above or in front, similiar to MacOSX), the overall look is rather consistent. For instance, they ALL use the same shadow effect so this keeps them from looking too varied for the most part. Overall, "JobboIcons" is a rather conservative icon set in comparison with Ocinel's work.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 22 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Dec-2002 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Thomas W):
That kind of stuff can be "fixed" anytime, by anyone. And remember - you are allways free to design your own icons if you don't like the original ones, or to download some from one of the great icon collections on the Internet.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 23 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Dec-2002 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (André Siegel):
I must say that I *really* like what I am seeing there ...
:-D
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 24 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Diermar Eilert on 12-Dec-2002 10:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (CodeSmith):
> Amazing! Morphos looks EXACTLY like NeXT!
Isn't that nice ;-) I'm afraid I'm too dumb to use ann (want a line break, get submission of an unfinished comment). Please, ann masters, add a confirm-to-send-checkbox.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 25 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Dec-2002 12:03 GMT
Nice interview. Nice screenshots.
I hope the PR stays at this level and not in BB level....
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 26 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 12-Dec-2002 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (André Siegel):
Ah, nice.
So you have entire icon sets in different themes. That's lovely.
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 27 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Dec-2002 12:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (sutro):
You do know who Dr. Havemose is, don't you?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 28 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Burström on 12-Dec-2002 17:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Don't be too excited. I have seen the sources for the JDK 1.1...
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 29 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Dec-2002 17:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Stefan Burström):
Well, have you seen Dr. Havemose's work as well? I don't know *anything* about it, and I believe that Alkis Tsapanidis isn't too familiar with it either as he wrote: "Ask Dr Havemose" as an answer to a question about it previously. But you know that there is no reason to be excited?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 30 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 12-Dec-2002 17:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Allan Havemose, former Commodore AmigaOS guru and head of development at Amiga Inc
is it the same guy ?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 31 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 12-Dec-2002 18:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (catohagen):
Let's see how this person is described:
"I would like to also mention that Dr. Allan Havemose is also part of our team.
Allan, who just became a proud father for the first time (14 April 2002), was
the Software Engineering Director at CBM with responsibility for the Amiga
operating systems OS 2.1, OS 3.0 and OS 3.1 on the A1200, A3000, A4000,
AmigaCD, and various other platforms. As you know, Allan was more recently
involved with Gateway's effort to resurrect the Amiga. Allan is developing the
Java Virtual Machine for the Pegasos/eclipsis and will work also on the Linux
side of our efforts. He brings professional product development and product
management to our team."
http://www.amiga-news.de/archiv02/020417_interview_bb_pt.shtml
Seems to be the same ;)
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 32 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Dec-2002 01:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Stefan Burström):
>Don't be too excited. I have seen the sources for the JDK 1.1...
That means exacly what? Java is nothing to be excited about?
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 33 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Dec-2002 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (catohagen):
Head of development at Amiga Inc? That's new...
Interview with Nicholas Blachford (Genesi) : Comment 34 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Dec-2002 21:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (takemehomegrandma):
I am familiar with the work he did:) The "Ask Dr. Havemose" part was about the
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