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[News] Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cardsANN.lu
Posted on 31-Jan-2003 16:27 GMT by Peter Gordon36 comments
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Elbox has created some AHI drivers for FM801-based soundcards, like the Terratec 512i Digital.
More info here.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 1 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Brent Santin on 31-Jan-2003 18:48 GMT
Hi, I use my Amiga 2000 and Repulse audio card to do professional audio (multitrack music recording and mastering). Therefore I bought the Repulse because it has an OPTICAL IN as well as an OPTICAL OUT (to do DAT to Amiga transfers). Are there any drivers for PCI audio cards (for the Mediator or the new AmigaOne) which support cards with optical/coaxial digital inputs? Until we can get our audio into our Amigas digitally, other Amiga musicians and myself will have to stay with the Classic Hardware and Zorro Amiga audio cards like the Maestro and Repulse (and Flipper?). I hope a driver for either the AmigaOne or Classic Amiga PCI adaptors will support a PCI card with these features soon (do they already?).
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 2 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 31-Jan-2003 19:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Brent Santin):
well SB LiVE is supported under Amiga OS 4.x but this is only AHI
(SB LiVE/Audigy will not be supported with mediator under OS 3.x)
soo if they actually support the other ports other than aux etc. is anybody's guess.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 3 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Mirror on 31-Jan-2003 22:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Shut up!!!!!

Why dont you do some research before you post!!!!!

Or is that why you post anonymously ?

I have a Sound Blaster Live in my Mediator and its already supported via AHI
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 4 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by It's MEEEE!!!! on 01-Feb-2003 00:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Mirror):
Maybe not everybody has so much time to spend researching.

By the way, I though that forums like this were created just for making research easier, as people eventualy could share information to each other.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 5 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 01-Feb-2003 00:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (It's MEEEE!!!!):
Whats this? Soundblaster Live cards have an AHI driver for the mediator? well thats news to me, I know theres a mixer for the live cards, but I didnt know about AHI..... anyone point me to some url or other about it?
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 6 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Feb-2003 07:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ryu):
There isn't one for the mediator, there is a SB LiVE AHI driver but that one is for Amithlon (I think) it's the same that will be used for Amiga OS 4.0,

it could be that the amithlon does work under mediator but... I doubt it.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 7 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by x on 01-Feb-2003 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
This driver for Amithlon hasn't been released yet (if at all).
But from what I gather, the SB Live driver will be released
as soon as OS 4 is out the door...
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 8 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 01-Feb-2003 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (x):
I don't know of any Amithlon user who has a SB Live driver. It is
certainly not released.

However, what is needed is some drivers for good quality cards, as
well as for Soundblasters. The Terratec range would be a good start.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 9 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Feb-2003 10:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Don Cox):
the terratec is not considered good... one specialist on audio stated that
'the terratec 512i can not be recommended for audio work or even for games the audio quality is to bad, what the terratec card can be used for is voice-recognition since the noise is very good.'

simplified but the meaning is there.

and as stated before... there are better cards around perhaps they should write a driver for the delfina flipper instead (but I doubt Elbox have the expertise to do that).
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Feb-2003 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Heheh. I'm sure he did not say "since the noise is very good." :D
I have not seen that article but I'm sure he said " since the sound/noise ratio is very good" Which means that the sound quality is good and it does not have much interference or distortion. Good S/N ratio is important in the voice detection. So better the S/N ratio is better the sound quality is.
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Feb-2003 11:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (miksuh):
Or hm signal/noise ratio is the right term, not sound/noise ratio. Anyway it means the same I said abowe.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 12 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by MarK on 01-Feb-2003 15:59 GMT
And why there isn't listed MediatorPCI 1200??? Only all the others??? Bye, MarK.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 13 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 01-Feb-2003 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Brent Santin):
If you've got a repulse I wouldn't bother with taking up a pci slot with a peecee sound card with half ass drivers. The repulse is a very good card just that it's expesive as hell.

coldfire
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Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 02-Feb-2003 15:21 GMT
Watch your harddrives die with Elboxs RDB killer code.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 15 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Feb-2003 17:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
oh shut up
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 16 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 02-Feb-2003 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
No one should shut up when it comes to exposing the cancer in the Amiga community,

Elbox is the cancer.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 17 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Feb-2003 23:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
Does that make Amiga Inc. the shotgun wound in the head? And maybe Hyperion are a gaping chest wound?

I like this metaphor - Merlancia is the wood splinter in the right thumb of Amiga.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 18 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 00:21 GMT
And while you try cracking them or some bit is changing inside the code the driver will start to make a NASTY pitched sound and then the Elbox CEO screams up saying "Hello cracker. We protect our Software stop cracking it" then a big loud noise and a melting smell comes up and driver, soundcard and your computer are broken :)
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Posted by Maaagma on 03-Feb-2003 10:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (coldfire):
The Repulse is indead a good card (and expensive) - but doesn't record analogue sound properly via a ZIV expansion on the A1200, unfortunately. I do hope the Flipper works well with the ZIV - in ALL respects - because if it does, I'll buy one... If not, I'll have to wait until there's an AOne on my desk.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 20 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 03-Feb-2003 10:36 GMT
If you really believe Elbox added the RDB killer code to its drivers to protect against piracy then you clearly are way off the mark,

They want people to buy overpriced Elbox PCI cards instead of a average Joe adjusting their drivers to run cheap PCI cards,

It is all about MONEY/GREED and POWER, nothing else.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 21 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 11:03 GMT
Excellent news.

So tell me, do these drivers include the usual Elbox illegal code designed to fsck up your hard drives if Elbox decide they don't like you?

(You know, like some of their other drivers have been proven tohave, despite Elbox's attempts to censor the news)
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 22 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 11:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
There is no that code in the drivers anymore, so stop it.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 23 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
"It is all about MONEY/GREED and POWER, nothing else"

Can you tell us which company don't think like that ? :) It's the nature of market economy.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 24 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 11:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (coldfire):
Good idea otheerwise, but there is no zorro-slots in my Amiga anymore :) Only PCI-slots :)
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 25 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 14:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
And you have conclusive proof of this do you?

Is it as conclusive as the proof that there was no such code there in the first place (which Elbox originally claimed, remember)?

Once bitten, twice shy (as the saying goes).
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 26 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Feb-2003 15:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
Well people checked those drivers which Elbox released as an uopdate when that RDB code was found. You must be paranoid or something.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 27 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 03-Feb-2003 17:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
Yes true every company want that but most DO NOT make drivers for their hardware fsck up the users harddrive if they modify the code to let them run other hardware,

If this was done by Microsoft,Nvidea,ATI,Elite,Asus etc etc people would complain like fsck BUT because it is an Amiga company the users are willing to cover it up and accept it and worship them.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 28 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 03-Feb-2003 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
Yes true every company wants that but most DO NOT make drivers for their hardware to fsck up the users harddrive if they modify the code to let them run other hardware,

If this was done by Microsoft,Nvidea,ATI,Elite,Asus etc etc people would complain like fsck BUT because it is an Amiga company the users are willing to cover it up and accept it and worship them.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 29 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 03-Feb-2003 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
Yes true every company wants that but most DO NOT make drivers for their hardware to fsck up the users harddrive if they modify the code to let them run other hardware,

If this was done by Microsoft,Nvidea,ATI,Elite,Asus etc etc people would complain like fsck BUT because it is an Amiga company the users are willing to cover it up and accept it and worship them.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 30 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 03-Feb-2003 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
oops Kemp remove the duplicates.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 31 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 11:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
Maybe because we don't have so many companies which can make PCi-busboards and drivers for them ? Elbox is too important for the Amiga. If eg. Nvidia would die then nione would really care because there is so many other companies too.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 32 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 04-Feb-2003 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Anonymous):
That is irrelavent,

Using destructive CODE in drivers is wrong, there is no excuse whatsoever and i find it hard to understand why people are so willing to hero worship Elbox,

Any company was does hardware for Amiga should be respected but not when they go to those extreme measures then do everything in their power to cover it up.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 33 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 05-Feb-2003 08:06 GMT
So, it really doesn't work for the Mediator A1200? In that case, it seems to me that they're trying to "force" people to upgrade to Mediator 1200 SX. (Same deal with the Spider - sort of)
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 34 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Feb-2003 14:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anders Kjeldsen):
They said for all mediators currently in production... (no Mediator in that list) it seems to me that they just said they don't produce Mediator 1200 anymore because there is SX. But atleast I did get those drivers, and I do have mediator 1200. I can't test those because i have sb128, and no money for new soundcard right now.
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 35 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Feb-2003 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Anonymous):
but in the readme in the archive it clearly states that the FM801 cards does not work on the Mediator PCI 1200.

The SB 4.1 will work apparently, but if the FM801 does not work then SB LiVE and SB Audigy Will not work either (on the Mediator PCI 1200).
Mediator AHI drivers for FM801-based sound cards : Comment 36 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 08-Feb-2003 17:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
>If this was done by Microsoft,Nvidea,ATI,Elite,Asus etc etc people would >complain like fsck BUT because it is an Amiga company the users are willing to >cover it up and accept it and worship them.

excuse me???? did you actually READ any of the Amiga pages online when
this issue came to light? Almost ALL Amiga users were very vitriolic about
it (many comparing Elbox to those aforementioned companies). even those
that want to support Elbox were hardly nice about the issue. Elbox took
the code out very quickly.

if you dont like their business model (trying to get some funds by controlling
which drivers and cards work with the system) then dont buy their PCI BUS
solution...go and buy someone elses..some other company that invested
time, research. money etc to keep our platform alive and useable....oh, wait...

Alan
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