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Posted on 23-Mar-2003 18:56 GMT by Derf193 comments
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AmigaWorld now has their 2nd week Q&A session with Fleecy Moss up and on line.

Read about it here.

Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 51 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by zimmy on 24-Mar-2003 14:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (smithy):
Amiga Inc are their OWN worst enemy, they don't require any assistance on that issue.

These are the final days indeed... =(
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 52 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 24-Mar-2003 15:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (puh..):
That's me, the real me and I fail to see where I was extremist in my comment.

After all these months, years even, all we get from Amiga Inc. is a bunch of silly questions and answers.

Where's the Amiga DE ? Where's the money for OS 4 ? Where's anything ?
Shall I recall Amiga Inc. started operations early 2000 ?

All the work is being done by third parties like Eyetech and Hyperion. What is Amiga Inc. useful for ? Holding the IP and the website ?

C'mon...
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 53 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 24-Mar-2003 15:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Janne Sirén):
I am disppointed that these questions & answers from Fleecy do not appear on the REAL www.amiga.com website.

So how do I know if this is really Fleecy answering these questions and not someone pretending to be Fleecy. ;)
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 54 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 24-Mar-2003 15:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Ben Yoris):
And AmigaInc's website should be promoting their products (stop making promises or apologies).

What products? How about promoting AmigaDE/Anywhere. Go look at TAO's Intent website.. its very nicely done. How about promoting the features that AmigaDE/Anywhere brings to Intent. How about promoting the SDK for Amiga-Anywhere? How about a contest giving away a (for *free*) a PDA featuring Amiga-Anywhere? Maybe you have something like this for your club members, I don't know.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 55 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 24-Mar-2003 16:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Darth_X):
Maybe they looked in a phone book and found some guy name "Fleecy Moss" ;)))

AmigaOne! Figment of our imagination???
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 56 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by AlBolone on 24-Mar-2003 16:05 GMT
Again I don't feel reassured or convinced by Amiga Inc./Fleecy at all, sorry ... and I really wonder how anybody can be!

Well, what year do we have? 2000 or 2003? When did Amiga Inc. took over? The questions might be different ones to a certain degree then the ones we asked 2000 -- but the answers aren't really! When it comes down to informational value and proof of progress these answers just remind me of the same old phrases we kept and keep hearing! And it scares me to think that the reason might be that they still haven't progressed much since then. Fleecy talking about Amiga's focus of establishing the platform sounds barely creative, rather replaceable and what's worse: pretty much like they still haven't gotten over "step1" yet ... Believe it or not: Browse through old interviews by Fleecy/Amiga Inc. and you'll find the exact same content! Only difference: some replaced and forgotten product names and terms ... So hearing new stuff like AG1 and AG2 only brings back bad memories of ambitious "pathfinder systems" (plus "systems for curious users"), Digital Heaven(tm), Amiverse and whatever stuff they kept feeding us for 3 years with no products to follow ... :-(

Since at least 1.5 years now I seriously doubt anything about Amiga, Inc. -- and all this time they just offered even more reasons to do so. I don't see Fleecy's answers changing this a bit ... nor taking us anywhere!
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 57 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 24-Mar-2003 17:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
> since Fleecy's answers are covered by copyright and cannot be reproduced
> elsewhere (am I correct?)

<me thinks>

I would say that it is *not* covered by copyright laws any more than your own post in this thread. To be covered by copyright laws the text has to be (among other things) *unique* and it has to reach a *certain level of "work"* (as in "work of art" etc). A book is copyrighted by it's author. So is an essay. But a press release is not, and neither are forum posts (as long as it's not a truly unique work, hehe) nor simple answeres to questions. And even if fleecys text really *would* reach up to the copyright level you could still freely reproduce it's *context* in your own words and even quote parts of it (as long as you declare who's the author and as long as you do not use it in a [to the author] negative/discrediting way). This is very common in academic papers and in journalistic work.

BTW, any "(C) 2003 By Me" notices has *no legal* meaning whatsoever. It signals to any readers that "By Me" *claims* the right to the material (and thus it might function as a warning), but wether the material will be considered as copyrighted or not is decided by the other factors (partially) mentioned above, with or without any (C) signs.

</me thinks>
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 58 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 24-Mar-2003 17:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (AlBolone):
Well, just wait another two weeks. It's true *this* time! ;-)
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 59 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 24-Mar-2003 17:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (takemehomegrandma):
I assume that you mean that in 2 weeks they will be delivering the t-shirts, or do you mean, in 2 weeks they will issue a further clarification about the status of the t-shirts?

They keep talking revolution,...but they can't even put a t-shirt in the mail.

as for waiting 2 weeks, well...good news is I guarantee that will happen...2 weeks always pass....like clockwork.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 60 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 24-Mar-2003 18:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (strobe):
@strobe
>>This comment is so damned stupid it sucks intelligence from the whole thread like a black hole.

>>So let me get this straight. My not buying non-existent products is the reason the products don't exist?

Strobe, they can say what they want, that was FUNNY! Keep sticking it to them.

They can take that self fulfilling prophecy tripe and throw it right in the trash. Because if Amiga, Inc. REQUIRES my participation, then THEY WILL FAIL. I will not give them my endorsement or consent, period.

So they fail.

Whats that? Maybe they don't need my consent or participation? In that case my prophecies are not self fulfilling.

Well...I'd like to see them answer that, are they self fulfilling or not?

Maybe only your prophecies are self fulfilling strobe, and not mine. DAMN LUCKY YOU....lucky bastard the whole community is reliant on your opinion, and they can dismiss mine so easily.....I'm jealous...
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 61 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by opi on 24-Mar-2003 18:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (acg):
"Cool the naysaying....at least it's an attempt at communication
with the "community"......"

Community needs product and not "better" communication.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 62 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 24-Mar-2003 19:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (AlBolone):
This of course begs the question:Is Amiga Inc relative at all to the Community?

Dammy
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 63 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 24-Mar-2003 20:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (dammy):
> Is Amiga Inc relative at all to the Community?

No, Hyperion do not need Amiga Inc to continue to release Amiga operating systems so Amiga Inc are just around like a bad smell who happen to have a whole army full of mad fanatics.

Amiga Inc might aswell disapear as they do piss all apart from answering bullshit questions on a bullshit Amiga inc worshipping site.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 64 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 24-Mar-2003 21:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Ben Yoris):
>All the work is being done by third parties like Eyetech and Hyperion. What
>is Amiga Inc. useful for? Holding the IP and the website?
Cash flow from non-Amiga related products.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 65 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 24-Mar-2003 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
>Q: WHY was this posted here?
>A: To advertise amigaworld.net and start a flamewar.
Alternative answer: To announce that the Q&A 2 is ready for public consumption.

>It's NOT news any more than announcing that the Times pyblished an issue this >morning. It's a regular event, therefore not news.
Subjective. Refer to regular columns within the major Australian newspapers as an example.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 66 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 24-Mar-2003 21:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
>Brother BOB: Cause we don't trust you lot! You're bloody pirates and (SNIP)

Note that a game such as Unreal Tournament 2003 or Unreal 2 has copy protection. It’s the right of companies to include any copy protection at they see fit.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 67 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 24-Mar-2003 21:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (takemehomegrandma):
The question isn't whether AI is relevant, but rather if it's employees are. I would say that they are. I think we would all agree that Dean Brown(if he still works there) can be pretty ingenius with hardware. I want to see his work exhibited for public consumption and to a certain extent Fleecy had some good ideas with Kosh. What's happened to them? Doesn't he want the world to see them?What do they do all day? Can they put up a webcam? There's lots of talent in AI and unfortunately at the moment, it seems to be being wasted. Honestly, if this sort of thing happened years ago, we'd all be saying M$ is restraining them.


>This of course begs the question:Is Amiga Inc relative at all to the Community?
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 68 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Mar-2003 23:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
Bill, stop kissing Bucks' A$$
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 69 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 25-Mar-2003 01:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
@Bill Hoggett

You make a very interesting point, and I think it is good that you made it. In future times, we will get tired of this competing site advertising for free...IMHO, though, of course its up to ckemp.

But I think, for today...this is legitimate news. Both because there wasn't a lot of other news today, and because Amiga, Inc. sticking to an announcement or plan for two weeks in a row does constitute news. I truly believed, they would have already forgotten about their Q&A Initiative.

I AM SHOCKED, and I am not being facetious. I will still lay odds this won't pass 8 weeks, and thusly, will not become a problem...
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 70 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by strobe on 25-Mar-2003 03:50 GMT
This thread is hilarious.

Who brought up MorphOS? Who bought up PowerMac or PowerBook? Amiga Inc. supporters, that's who.

And who do they blame for AOS4 not being here? Amiga Inc. detractors.

Hilarious.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 71 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 25-Mar-2003 05:27 GMT
Yes its funny how it is always the same Amiga inc lovers (Alkemyst,Samface, L8-X,SlimJim,DaveP,MikeB) who bring up MorphOS/Pegasos in to a thread where it has nothing whatsoever to do with it, maybe you guys should stick with AmigaIncworld.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 72 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 25-Mar-2003 05:34 GMT
Taken from Amigaworld when a guy asked fleecy the following

"Do you find it normal that people have to pay to get information out of your company?"

Reply

"I don't see anyone "paying" to get these 10 questions a week answered, and it's very nice of Bill to volunteer his precious time to do it - so I would suggest we repay him with less sarcastic and unproductive questions."

So you guys still claim that site is not Amiga inc pro? and the Amiga inc defender got the guys name wrong :o)

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=277&forum=10
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 73 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
Who cares? If they want to have a "pro" Amiga site, it's their problem. There's nothing more odd about it than MorphOS-news.de or whatever. Give it a rest already.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 74 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 08:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
Name one occation where *I* brought MorphOS into a non-morphos related thread. I dare you.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 75 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 25-Mar-2003 08:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (samface):
Does this site store archives? (looked but found non) you always do it and so does the other Amiga inc fans, point me to the archives and i will post link after link of your silly MorphOS in to threads which have nothing to do with the topic discussed.

As for Amigaworld, that site is a f**ked up place and i have never ever seen a Amiga/MorphOS site one sided as bad as that in years, that site is not for normal everyday Amiga users but the Amiga users who will love and praise everything Amiga and attack anyone who speaks out from a Amiga companies wrong doings, Elbox is a fine example, Bouma is a admin on there so you know and i know the site is one sided through and through.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 76 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 25-Mar-2003 08:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
@Amiga User (Not Blind)

I second samface's challenge to you. Mention any one time I have mentioned MOS
in a AOS thread, especially in any inflammatory way. By all means, please back up your claim that I should be an "AInc lover" too (I suspect you use this as a
derogative analogy to "BAF",correct me if I'm wrong). Just because I don't post
pointless abusive posts all over, continuously and unproductively bashing
everything AInc do, you have to put me under a label? I don't bash MOS/Genesi
either. Am I a "Genesi lover" next week then?
.
SlimJim
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 77 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (dammy):
> This of course begs the question:Is Amiga Inc relative at all to the
> Community?

This question is simple; YOU decide. Do YOU care for the intellectual property, the licensing making AmigaOne and OS4 possible, an Amiga market united under one brand, an official OS based on the true AmigaOS API's, etc.? If not, then just accept that you have chosen a different path besides the official one and stop pestering the Amiga community already. Why is it so hard to comprehend that we are NOT a part of the same community anymore? The split is here and we have nothing in common unless we want to talk about the good old commodore machines, end of story.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 78 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 09:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
Yes, you can search the archives of ANN.lu. Look just below and a bit towards the center of the ANN logo of the front page.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 79 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 25-Mar-2003 09:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (samface):
>Name one occation where *I* brought MorphOS into a non-morphos related thread. I dare you.

Eehh.. this thread?

Not that I agree with most of what has been said otherwise, I won't comment on that, but you did bring MorphOS to this thread. (It had been mentioned prior to that by DaveP in a completely different context, but I believe we could reasonably conclude you did what you were told you have done - brought MorphOS into a non-MorphOS thread as a part of your argumentation.)

"> As it is, the ANN facilities are simply being abused to advertise
> amigaworld.net and Amiga Inc for free.

But with MorphOS related news coverage it's a different story, right? Hipocrate..."

Again, I'm not saying there is anything wrong or right about that, I won't comment because I haven't formed an opinion on that (I probably do the same myself in one way or the other), but you did do it.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 80 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 09:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
Regarding your Amigaworld bashing; so? No, I really mean it, SO? What's your problem? If you don't like their site, don't point your browser there, simple. They are free to have whatever content they want on their website (unless if it's illegal) and you are of course free to have your opinion but, what makes you think we haven't already understood that you hate their guts? Stop beeing such a troll, you know...
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 81 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 25-Mar-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Janne Sirén):
Reading the thread more carefully again, I must admit there is more room for interpretation there than I first thought. Your comment seems to bring MorphOS into the discussion out of blue, but if we think about the name of Ralph being mentioned perhas you didn't see it that way when you wrote it.

Perhaps I was wrong in that. If so, sorry. Anyway, I still feel it is pretty easy to bring the competing product into your argumentation in any thread since comparisons are a useful tool when making arguments against or for something.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 82 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 25-Mar-2003 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Janne Sirén):
@Janne

Let's not dance around the issue of samface's trolling shall we?

He DID bring MOS into a non-MOS thread, as have others in this thread too. What's more, his comment was utterly stupid and his accusation totally false as I had already stated I would have exactly the same objection no matter which side was using ANN for free advertising. There is "NO MOS BIAS", for those who are hard of understanding. Samface was just trying to turn an issue of principle into a personal flame, as he always does.

WRT your earlier comment about discussing the news itself rather than whether it belongs here, there you have the crux of the issue:

The "news", as posted here (and on amiga.org and moobunny) is "EXCLUSIVE, Fleecy completes his second set of Q&A. Come and read all about it at amigaworld.net". I'm paraphrasing of course, to illustrate a point, but that's just blatant advertising.

The way to have posted the same thing without turning it into a blatant advert would have been to make the news item: "In his weekly Q&A session, Fleecy stated '<insert newsworthy quotation here'. The full article can be read here <insert URL>". That would have been news and at least it would have shown that the poster had actually extracted something worth reading rather than just gratuitously posting a link to the site he's trying to promote.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 83 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 25-Mar-2003 09:51 GMT
Adverising so that people can go on Amigaincworld so their banners will generate money. (hopefully the proper users use ad blocking software or disable .gif files from loading)

Amigaworld is the side of the Amiga users which shows non Amigans of how ignorant and how stupid single minded people can be, just look at the posts with shut like "Amiga users unite against war on Iraq" pathetic.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 84 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 25-Mar-2003 09:56 GMT
Why don't we discusss what i being said.

I find it surprising thay hyperion and the various developers are not yelling their heads off.

1) Amiga are going to be continually locked in to alternative hardware, ie we can't go out and buy a dell though it would only take a couple of weeks work on the software to make this possible.
2) Amiga may not meet very very basic needs to industry standard until Amiga Generation 2 (AG2)
3) Amiga will take 18 months after AmigaOS4.0 to become a compelling alternative.

Not mentioned when AG2 is likely to be.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 85 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 11:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Janne Sirén):
Well, I'd like to add that mentioning a subject is not the same thing as changing the topic. When I mentioned MorphOS in this thread it was appropriate in it's context but at the same time far from the actual point I was trying to get across. MorphOS could just as well have been replaced with basicly anything off topic but since cheesegrate whom I adressed my post to is quite a fan of it, I felt it would be more appropriate as an argument addressed directly towards him.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 86 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 82 (Bill Hoggett):
Strange reasoning... if it's only refering to a news article of another news website rather than including the entire or portions of the original article's content, it's not news?
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 87 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 25-Mar-2003 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Amiga User (Not Blind)):
>(hopefully the proper users use ad blocking software or disable .gif files from >loading)

i tryed helping abit with this issue on a.org, blocking the Genesi ads
and Wayne didnt like it....i guess it will be same reaction at Amigaworld :)
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 88 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 25-Mar-2003 11:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (samface):
A Q&A session is not news, nor are all the answers given news. Nor is amigaworld.net a "news" site, for that matter. You seem to have serious trouble using English terminology. May I suggest a good dictionary?

If there is news amongst Fleecy's answers, it is quite reasonable to expect the poster to point the reader to it, rather than just point to an article and say "go find the news yourself".

Just posting a link as news is bad practice anyway, and I've always thought it kinda moronic. You should tell people WHY they should follow the link in the first place.

None of which changes the fact that this is just blatant advertising for a commercially supported site.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 89 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 11:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (samface):
Doh! I see I mixed the threads up a little... That post was actually directed towards Bill Hogget and yes I may have jumped to conclusions when I categorized him as a MorphOS fan. Sorry about that, really.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 90 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Bill Hoggett):
That's a news posting rules issue on the bahalf of the ANN.lu moderators rather than this specific news article. I suggest mailing Christian Kemp about these kind of issues rather than this lame bashing of Fleecy's answers.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 91 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Bill Hoggett):
BTW, if you tell people why they should read the article, doesn't that ruin the entire concept of objective news?
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 92 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 25-Mar-2003 12:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (samface):
@samface

What bashing of Fleecy's answers? Can you point to any post I have made in this thread bashing Fleecy's answers at all?

As for removing the point of reading the thread if you tell people why they should read it, you have some very strange ideas. Telling people what the news is and allowing them to go and read the thread _if they should want to do so_ is quite normal. Telling people that there is news but they will have to go and read it somewhere else is blatant advertising. It's that simple.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 93 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 25-Mar-2003 12:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Bill Hoggett):
My official point of view (albeit it is only very loosely enforced) is that I dislike "news items" that only contain a link, and would prefer some more details, ideally quotes or summaries from the linked text, to be included. Long-time visitors might remember that this is what I did when ANN still covered newsgroups, but I lack the time and determination to do that nowadays with user submissions.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 94 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 25-Mar-2003 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (cheesegrate):
" No i'm not with you. STrobe actually knows about programming ppc which is a lot more than you. in fact he is probably about then times as inteligent as you. you are just a cheerleader fanatic."

hahaha .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahahaha
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 95 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 25-Mar-2003 12:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (samface):
> When I mentioned MorphOS in this thread it was appropriate in it's context ...

... as most of the times when MorphOS is mentioned in AOS threads (and vice versa). IMO this is a natural aspect of a discussion and I myself couldn't care less. Grown ups should be able to handle alternative point of views and *discuss them*. But the fact is that this has annoyed some certain people recently, and annoyed them to such a degree where they crying runs to another particular site (which seems to be proud to have a somewhat rigid one-sided censorship policy) and yell "the threads on ann and amiga.org gets hijacked(!) all the time". That is complete noncense of course, but it's kind of funny that MorphOS was brought to this thread by the same kind of people.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 96 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User (Not Blind) on 25-Mar-2003 12:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (catohagen):
@catohagen

Yes i remember Wayne and some other guy having a go at people who mentioned ad blocking software, i ignore people like that because ad blocking and pop up stoppers are damn useful when stupid webmasters want to fill their sites with ads and pop up scripts.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 97 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 25-Mar-2003 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Bill Hoggett):
> If there is news amongst Fleecy's answers, it is quite reasonable to expect
> the poster to point the reader to it, rather than just point to an article
> and say "go find the news yourself".

Or why not do it the way it has *allways* been done; copy and paste the actual news to a new post/thread here on ann (or otherwhere) as a news item. Empty links to news are completely meaningless and uninteresting.

Imagine if a news site were filled with empty links like "The latest news on the conflict in Iraq is available on cnn.com", what a waste of bandwith that would be. It would be completely meaningless.
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 98 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 25-Mar-2003 13:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (takemehomegrandma):
You still haven't answered my question about what was the "filthy actions" taken
by Amigaworld. Haven't heard of this.
.
SlimJim
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 99 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 25-Mar-2003 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (samface):
In Reply to Comment 62:
> This of course begs the question:Is Amiga Inc relative at all to the
> Community?

> This question is simple; YOU decide. Do YOU care for the intellectual
> property,

Exactly what IP that is relevent to anything in today's world?

> the licensing making AmigaOne and OS4 possible,

Oh wow, they have given the official Boing Ball sticker to generic PPC mobo and Hyperion's work. What's next, cellphones? Oh wait...

> an Amiga market united under one brand, an official OS based on the true
> AmigaOS API's, etc.?

Again, an official Boing Ball sticker is meaningless as it has no relevent connection to the Amiga Community. Except for you trademark lunatics. As far as AOS API, I have that with AROS.

> If not, then just accept that you have chosen a different path besides the
> official one and stop pestering the Amiga community already. Why is it so hard > to comprehend that we are NOT a part of the same community anymore? The split > is here and we have nothing in common unless we want to talk about the good
> old commodore machines, end of story.

Thank you for declaring Amiga Inc and it's supporters have left the building of Amiga Community. Please take the advopups with you as you hit the road!

Dammy
Questions with Fleecy Moss - Week 2 : Comment 100 of 193ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 25-Mar-2003 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Bill Hoggett):
You refer to Fleecy's answers as not news which I find to be degrading of his knowledge as well as authority in the matter. I mean, why wouldn't new information be news? Yes, these Q&A are providing us with new information about what's going on at the offices of Amiga Inc. and their partners, and I really don't think the source of this new information can be more authentic.

As for the ANN.lu news posting issue, that's up to the poster of the news and/or the moderators of ANN.lu and really has nothing to do with the news value of the original article at Amigaworld.
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