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[News] Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc.ANN.lu
Posted on 02-May-2003 13:33 GMT by Joe Pillow197 comments
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In a posting here on ANN, Bolton Peck finally breaks his silence. He reports about his time at Amiga Inc., the court trial against his former employer and informs us who is the real CEO of Amiga. Moreover, Bolton gives a general overview into what has happened behind the scenes during the past 3 years... Click here!
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 1 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 02-May-2003 11:39 GMT
Thats a pretty sad account. Boy am I glad neither the AmigaONE or OS4 projects relies upon the financial stability of Amiga, Inc!
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 2 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 02-May-2003 11:58 GMT
ok, thats really bad, and I know a few other people in the IT industry who have similar tales with their companies... (and worse, believe it or not!)

One question though - who is Bolton Peck and what did he actually do?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 3 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Xeyes on 02-May-2003 12:05 GMT
So now can everyone who was on the losing side of this debate finally suck an egg? You know who you are.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 4 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Dave McK on 02-May-2003 12:09 GMT
The curse strikes again... :-\

When will it ever end?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 5 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by logain on 02-May-2003 12:09 GMT
Truly a sad story!

Just hope those last few Amiga Inc. defendents will wake up very
soon..(and Amiga Inc dies before doing any futher damage)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 6 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Syke on 02-May-2003 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (logain):
Sad story, just one question:
What will happen to my T-Shirt now?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 7 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2003 12:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Syke):
Request it to be sent to Bolton Peck or course.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 8 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 02-May-2003 12:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Syke):
> Syke :
>Sad story, just one question: What will happen to my T-Shirt now?

Well, who knows. I'd suggest that if people get them they should send 'em all to Bolton and his family. But I think the Boing Ball doesn't exactly get anyone around there off too well. That, and it sounds a little too "We Are The Worldy" : }

I'm sure Bolton would just prefer to have some cash {did I get that right, tronman? ; }
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 9 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 02-May-2003 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Xeyes):
Losing side? Anyone who gets drawn into long heated debates on internet message boards is on the losing side :)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 10 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 02-May-2003 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ben):
Curious... He did hardware QA for Amiga as far as I can tell, but then...

"For the November meeting Bolton Peck gave a demo of the Pegasos motherboard and MorphOS."
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 11 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Syke on 02-May-2003 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (greenboy):
If he sets up a Paypal account, I'd be glad to pay $50 again.

OTOH, if several people are in his shoes right now, it'd be hard to pay everyone $50 no matter how much I'd like to..
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 12 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 02-May-2003 12:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Syke):
Well, that's pretty cool of you : }
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 13 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 02-May-2003 12:45 GMT
I will never learn to stay out of it.

but I'm glad people are speaking some more now.

this goes back to why the new CEO is not speaking...why.
what a launch for a new product.

sooo very sorry to hear about these problems and what it did to his family.
that is really rotten.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 14 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 02-May-2003 12:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (MarkTime):
Mark, people have been speaking out since 2001, they just haven't been doing it via message board (or tried and were shouted down by "the so called insiders").
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 15 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Mekanix on 02-May-2003 13:08 GMT
So, who owns Amiga Inc.?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 16 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 02-May-2003 13:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Mekanix):
Contestant #1: I am the CEO of Amiga Inc

Contestant #2: I am the CEO of Amiga Inc

Contestant #3: Don't look at me, I just live nearby!


(apologies to the game show, Catch Me If You Can)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 17 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 02-May-2003 13:22 GMT
"(29-Apr-2003) Amiga, Inc. announces that Bill McEwen the CEO of Amiga, Inc. will once again attend AmiWest."

"Yesterday, (April 30, 2003) Bill McEwen told my attorney under oath that he's no longer CEO of Amiga"

So McBill was CEO on the 29th and not on the 30th? I'd like some answers from Amiga Inc, but then... whats the point? It would just be more bullsh**

Really, I think it's time for Amiga Inc to just call it a day and shut up shop. Sell the IP to someone who can actually make something of it (Hyperion/Genesi/whoever..).
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 18 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 02-May-2003 13:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Mekanix):
The posting says a Dutch consortium!

That's remarkable. Amiga was never *that* popular in the Netherlands. Could be interresting though! If it's true then they must very much like the concept of AmigaOS 4. Or it's for their own reasons..

I'll agree on one thing though. The company should have never returned to the USA. All that was created the last couple of years was created in Europe and still is being created in Europe.

I hope and doubt that this will have any impact on OS4 and the AmigaOne though.

But I'm beginning to get very interrested in where this will all lead.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 19 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 13:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Xeyes):
> So now can everyone who was on the losing side of this debate finally suck
> an egg? You know who you are.

No need for that IMO. It would be nice if those "you know who you are" could wake up though.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 20 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 02-May-2003 13:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Syke):
how about $50 towards something you can get now, play with, help code if you want...etc...even sell (like redhat sells linux) .... it's called AROS.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day... teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime.

Let Mr. Peck learn to fish rather than wish.

Lot's of us have been burned in the history of Amiga troubled waters.

$50 towards AROS development will go a long way for all of us.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 21 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Lando):
> "(29-Apr-2003) Amiga, Inc. announces that Bill McEwen the CEO of Amiga, Inc.
> will once again attend AmiWest."

> "Yesterday, (April 30, 2003) Bill McEwen told my attorney under oath that
> he's no longer CEO of Amiga"

> So McBill was CEO on the 29th and not on the 30th? I'd like some answers
> from Amiga Inc, but then... whats the point? It would just be more bullsh**

IMO, that was obviously only some damage control efforts by their webmaster. Cover one lie with another lie. That can't continue forever. Sooner or later you run out of fairy tales, you get cornered and eventually you will see the meaninglessness in continuing.

> Really, I think it's time for Amiga Inc to just call it a day and shut up
> shop. Sell the IP to someone who can actually make something of it

Isn't that what they are doing?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 22 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Remco Komduur):
> The posting says a Dutch consortium!

> That's remarkable. Amiga was never *that* popular in the Netherlands. Could
> be interresting though! If it's true then they must very much like the
> concept of AmigaOS 4.

No. If you go back in time you will see that Amiga Inc was never really interested in Amiga OS. The Amiga OS was not the concept they sold to the VC's, it was the AmigaDE/Anywhere or whatever it was called. It's all there if you do some searching.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 23 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 02-May-2003 14:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (takemehomegrandma):
I know. Thats not new to me. I also never liked the idea of AmigaDE/Anywhere.

A consortium might have bought into it to see the release of AmigaOS 4 and the AmigaOne( and maybe even more hardware) as a main product.

I'm only interrsted in one thing! New fast hardware and the continuation of the AmigaOS.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 24 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Santa Claus on 02-May-2003 14:09 GMT
Hey after two months... I would figure that I would be looking for a job with no paycheck...

Got to be concerned with the thinking here.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 25 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Newbie on 02-May-2003 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Remco Komduur):
Check out www.morphos.net (I found this after some research today). It is AmigaOS on new hardware and it is very fast. I have seen it yesterday at a friend and it blew me away since I haven't seen anything Amiga since early 1997.

Everyone who have not seen this in Action have missed something. I will visit my friend again later this day to play again a bit with his machine :-)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 26 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Santa Claus):
No, not necessarily, not whey you have stock options, you believe in the strategy, the promises, and you believe in some great future reward. Besides "it's coming, it's just another two weeks" ...
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 27 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2003 14:17 GMT
I really can't wait to see what spin MikeB, SamFace and all the other AInc apologists (not to mention Fleecy et al) put on this sad and sorry state of affairs...
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 28 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Remco Komduur):
> A consortium might have bought into it to see the release of AmigaOS 4 and
> the AmigaOne( and maybe even more hardware) as a main product.

I don't think so. If that would have been the main product, do you really think that AmigaInc (after *some time*) would have more or less given it away to Hyperion and Eyetech?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 29 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by José on 02-May-2003 14:23 GMT
If this is true, the only thing I hope is that AOS stays with the people it is now. But what about the IP?.
Anyway. If the "name" is sold again, it'll will defenitly be a bad thing for AOS cause there will be confusion in the public. One company with the name and IP. Other with the OS.
When will it all belong to companies that really supported the Amiga.
Maybe the remaining companies could gather and buy it.
Eyetech and Hyperion (etc.) anyone? But it's said that it belongs to some Dutch consortium already?! :/ Damn.
If this goes wrong, now is the time I'll stop being an Amiga user. And I bet most of us.
IF this is true, damn you AmigaInc. for not leting the remaining Amiga companies get the name and IP. So much talk, if those intentions were true you'd have done that. Where's your moral?.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 30 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 14:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
I don't think they will say anything. What more is there for them to say at this point?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 31 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 14:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (José):
> One company with the name and IP. Other with the OS.

This is the current situation you know. Amiga Inc holds the IP, Hyperion the OS.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 32 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 02-May-2003 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Santa Claus):
@SantaClaus,

NOOOOO NOOOO thats where you are wrong.

It sounded very genuine to me, because its exactly how people end up working
without a paycheck.

First its delayed, and you are very concerned, but it takes time to find a job,
but then they catch up....then it happens again. Pretty soon, its very upsetting, but you know they always caught up before....

its how you end up doing it for two months.....I've seen it before.
It does happen...if this story is true, then don't blame the victim.
And there is nothing wrong in the logic, to think its not true.

But with all things on the internet, lets wait and see.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 33 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 02-May-2003 14:33 GMT
If the current amiga inc are really gone, I'm 3/4 glad; Hyperion and Eyetech will be able to get on with it without worrying about Amiga inc's mismanagement screwing it up for them, On the otherhand if someone that is less posistive towards Hyperion and Eyetech takes over they could make it very difficult for them :(.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 34 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2003 14:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (takemehomegrandma):
"I don't think they will say anything. What more is there for them to say at
this point?"

Like they always do, they will attack the messenger and call him a blue troll. They will attack everyone who is within ear range and accuse them of all sorts of things.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 35 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by José on 02-May-2003 14:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (takemehomegrandma):
Yeah, but with the difference that the current AInc. would market it as if it was their own product.(And gain some profit). The new company would only have a competing product. I might be wrong though. But then again, they might no go bankrupt for the new owners to be able to buy the OS. That would be scum.
Would that be possible? Can anyone with knowledge of the contract with Hyperion confirm that?
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 36 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 02-May-2003 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (José):
Not many here have seen the contract between Amiga Inc and Hyperion. Better ask Ben Hermans!
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 37 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-May-2003 14:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
"I really can't wait to see what spin MikeB, SamFace and all the other AInc apologists (not to mention Fleecy et al) put on this sad and sorry state of affairs..."

Don't know about the others, but when somebody linked to that story in a thread on OSnews, Mike deleted the post.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 38 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 02-May-2003 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (takemehomegrandma):
Do you think they want to continue with AmigaDE and Anywhere then?

They only way that is going to be a succes is if the consortium is called Philips and they want to push the technology in.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 39 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-May-2003 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (corpse):
"If the current amiga inc are really gone,"

They are not "gone". What we are talking about is a possible/probable change of CEO.

There has been no mention of liquidation of the company.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 40 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 02-May-2003 14:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Don Cox):
> Don't know about the others, but when somebody linked to that story in a thread
> on OSnews, Mike deleted the post.

ROTFL! :)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 41 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by DC on 02-May-2003 14:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Syke):
I paid $50.00 USD to Amiga Inc. nearly one year ago and never received anything. It really sucks. Not as bad as Bolten's situation though. I would, though, be interested on hearing any comments from Bill or Fleecy regarding this.

Peace,

-DC-
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 42 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-May-2003 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Don Cox):
Mike started hiding. Pandora's box is finally open. I waited for this for a long
time. BTW, it seems that Hyperion is not free to develop the OS as much as they
like:)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 43 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-May-2003 14:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
AARRRGGGHHH!
not=NOW.
Hyperion is NOW free to freely develop OS4...

Christian, could you add a preview link? :)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 44 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-May-2003 14:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (takemehomegrandma):
"Not many here have seen the contract between Amiga Inc and Hyperion. Better ask Ben Hermans!"

There is some information in Ben's interview here
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2003-02-00202-EN.html
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 45 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 02-May-2003 15:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Don Cox):
> Don Cox :
>Don't know about the others, but when somebody linked to that story in a thread on OSnews, Mike deleted the post.

Well! isn't that *typical*... ; } (not on topic, FUD, conspiracy to discredit me, blah blah blah)
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 46 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 02-May-2003 15:12 GMT
Interesting how people immediately take sides and start pointing fingers.

This situation is bad for everyone.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 47 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-May-2003 15:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (DC):
DC, you may want to take a look at this to put some fire under Amiga Inc's feet:

http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/85281.shtml

Dammy
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 48 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-May-2003 15:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Don Cox):
> Don't know about the others, but when somebody linked to that story in a thread > on OSnews, Mike deleted the post.

My, isn't that *special*. </churchlady's voice>

Dammy
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 49 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2003 15:32 GMT
Just added this "Amiga inc exposed good and proper" to OSnews, i give it 10 mins before the Bouma deletes it, lol.
Behind the Scenes of Amiga Inc. : Comment 50 of 197ANN.lu
Posted by Truth Teller on 02-May-2003 15:40 GMT
Where is all those Amiga Inc fans who cover up and defend their wonderful company? MikeB, Samface, L8-X,Jethro_Tull,IonMane.

Come on guys here is a perfect chance to tell us Peck is a liar. you wont because the truth is out and Amiga Inc are now exposed LOL.
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