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Much faster G4 processors from Motorola imminent. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/30993.html
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 1 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 08:20 GMT
FYI, 1GHz, 1.2 GHz and 1.3 GHz Pegasos G4 cards to be produced next week. The commercial release will be in July, depending on which version has the best price vs. performance ratio.

R&B
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 2 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
And pigs might fly
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 3 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by MiniBobF on 03-Jun-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
Once again, changing the substance of a message thread to suit your own needs.

Change the record, please.

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 4 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DET Nicolas on 03-Jun-2003 09:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
Cool !

I just hope there will be no fan on that CPU like on Mac
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 5 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 03-Jun-2003 09:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (MiniBobF):
I think it's relevant. The initial article refers to some new G4. BBRV refers to new G4 upgrades for pegasos. It only annoys people who don't like the pegasos :)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 6 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DET Nicolas on 03-Jun-2003 09:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (DET Nicolas):
Well, Apple use fan for his G4.
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 7 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 03-Jun-2003 09:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (DET Nicolas):
Yep ! No fan please !! :)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 8 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 09:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Don't drink more beer if you see flying pigs :)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 9 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 09:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (DET Nicolas):
i think that even G4 gets much too hot in that clock if you don't have a fan.
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 10 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by MiniBobF on 03-Jun-2003 09:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (mahen):
"I think it's relevant. The initial article refers to some new G4. BBRV refers to new G4 upgrades for pegasos. It only annoys people who don't like the pegasos :)"

I hope by "some new G4" you mean "Motorola are prototyping devices on a smaller fab size" - of course the two are not the same. The speculation in the article then continues and (a logical) assumption is made that the same fab shrink could be made to the 7457.

In no way is that related to the imminent release of 7450 devices for the Pegasos platform.

For you future reference I have no experience of the Pegasos, so do not hate it as you suggest. On the other hand Bill Buck's in-your-face marketing gets under my skin. I do not stand alone on that.

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 11 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 03-Jun-2003 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (MiniBobF):
OK, so he should maybe add a new article to say they're producing some new G4.

Anyway, I really think it's not that off topic. It's just that you can't stand BB anymore because you are into this OS4 vs MOS war, just like most of us !

So, calm down & breathe :)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 12 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 03-Jun-2003 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (mahen):
I mean, no offense was meant, but the market is so small that "important" persons from the well known companies can take part in the discussions.

I think the info BB provided us with interest many people, even if it's a bit off topic.

I apologize for my previous reply
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 13 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by MiniBobF on 03-Jun-2003 09:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (mahen):
"Anyway, I really think it's not that off topic. It's just that you can't stand BB anymore because you are into this OS4 vs MOS war, just like most of us!"

His marketing gets under my skin, but to say I can't stand him is steep. I don't know him or even met him. The LACK of apparent effort from Bill McEwen annoys me just as much. I don't get involved in the OS4 <-> MOS "war", it irritates me there are so many people out there who lack the self control, and have propagated dissilusionment in the who "Amiga & compatible" market sector.

I sold my Amiga early last year and hoped by visiting ANN, Amiga.org etc I could keep up my interest... I find the only thing people are willing to debate is... you guessed it!!!

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 14 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 09:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (MiniBobF):
Hi Neil, the pin connectors are the same and they are supplied by Motorola.

Pegs will fly...;-)

You and DaveP should start a Help Group. ;-P

It is just a computer!

R&B
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 15 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by MiniBobF on 03-Jun-2003 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (bbrv):
"You and DaveP should start a Help Group. ;-P"

Er, no thanks...

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 16 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (bbrv):
bbrv

Why are you bringing my name into this? Pray do explain.
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 17 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 09:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (DaveP):
...because we like you so much and know you are always here!

;-)

R&B
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 18 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 09:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (bbrv):
awww shucks.
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 19 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 09:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (DaveP):
P.S. Besides, it is our (my) favorite thing to do in between meetings!
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 20 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 09:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (MiniBobF):
In fairness, it's Bill Buck's job to sell and promote the Pegasos so information like he posted is valid. It's not like he tried to say "we'll have a 1.x processor running on superior hardware that wont work on a rival platform because of xxxx reasons". Just basics facts and to the point. If all announcements were kept to this standard then perhaps we could avoid most of the flame/FUD wars.

Plus, it also means that we can expect similar modules for the AmigaOne...
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 21 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Hooligan/DCS on 03-Jun-2003 09:49 GMT
the name "DaveP" has a sexy hiphop feeling in it.. P Diddy ... Davey P .. ever considered to be a rapsuperstar?

Of course then it would have to be changed to Dave G ...
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 22 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 09:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Darrin):
Agreed. Which is why I did not post. OTOH I take "G4 module" promises like this with a pinch of salt, which comes naturally to me after 3 years of BS release dates in this market. So bbrv, don't expect me to flame you if you slip the date ;-)

PS: I find lounging around in a hammock with a beer slightly more fun than ANN but its chilly today.
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 23 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 03-Jun-2003 09:52 GMT
What's on topic in a thread about 1GHz+ G4's, a two-line claim that
such CPU's (albeit different models) will be available for a related
platform next month, or a discussion about whether it's ok to post
such information?

Well.. I think at least THIS message is clearly off-topic. :)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 24 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Hooligan/DCS):
On IRC it used to be DeePee ( because people kept referring to me as DP ) and then someone pointed out its a sexual position and wanted to cyber me.

However Im not sure how far we are travelling from the subject today, anyone got a map?
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 25 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
Sure sure, hows the Peg2 going along?

Cheers
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 26 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (DaveP):
Hmmmm... I wasn't arround to include in that list, so he must've picked the next one on his list

Cheers,
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 27 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (DaveP):
@DaveP:

>> So bbrv, don't expect me to flame you if you slip the date ;-)

It's also worth noting Dave that Bill didn't put a YEAR on the end of the month... so it's going to be hard to flame him. ;-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 28 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Alfred Schwarz on 03-Jun-2003 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (bbrv):
> Pegs will fly...;-)

Ah, so no "G4 doesn't perform as expected" anymore? Did you solve the problems in the Peg1?

Ciao, Alfred
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 29 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Amon_Re):
Wow

So I am:

Samface->next->next->next
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 30 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 09:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Darrin):
Darrin! Back from Gabon! ;-) Thanks for the encouragement. About that other system...in this case it would be the AmigaToo!

Hey, Hooligan, how about working up some audio on one of those new demos featuring "DeepPee" or how about a new name...P-Man! What do you think Dave? Should we let it leak that the "P" is for Pegasos? :-D Whoa! Stay chilly P-Man!

Thanks Johan...;-) We too!

Another, friend...Amon_Pe! :-)

Post fast...not much time left...;-)

R&B
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 31 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (bbrv):
Taking cheap shots again are we Bill?

Take some advice from me, get behind your desk & work!

Cheers,
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 32 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (bbrv):
Taking cheap shots again are we Bill?

Take some advice from me, get behind your desk & work!

Cheers,
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 33 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (bbrv):
Taking cheap shots again are we Bill?

Take some advice from me, get behind your desk & work!

Cheers,
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 34 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Amon_Re):
Sorry for double posts :(

Cheers
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 35 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 10:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (bbrv):
>>Darrin! Back from Gabon! ;-) Thanks for the encouragement. About that other system...in this case it would be the AmigaToo!

Not quite :-)

I made it back from Perth (Oz) OK, but I'm still in Ghana at the moment. I should (if KLM don't let me down) be in Amsterdam on Thursday.

Am I reading your reply wrong or are you (covertly) suggesting that your G4 modules could be produced for the AmigaOne too?
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 36 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Amon_Re):
You can say that again!

:-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 37 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 10:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Darrin):
I forgot to put the ";-)" on the end of my last post. Too many jokes about AmigaOne/AmigaTwo/AmigaOne too/ etc :-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 38 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Darrin):
@Darrin A man after my own heart, wasn't it then honeymoon and then a rig in Ghana (sorry, knew it started with a "G"). How long will you be in Amsterdam? When exactly? About the connectors...that refers to the CPU card of the Pegasos and how it connects to the mainboard. The CPU (G4) goes on the card (we know you know that, but thought we should clarify this for the others).

@Amon_Peg (that better?) I am working remember...;-) And, trying to have some fun. You guys can be very HEAVY some times. Like Alfraid for example....lighten up sport!

:-D

R&B
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 39 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 03-Jun-2003 10:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Alfred Schwarz):
I think this G4 upgrade is to make ppl wait for the peg2; it should work much better with the pegasos 2.

There are also some issues left with the articia. Has anyone more info about that ?
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 40 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
Sammy, where are you?!

Get over here and get in this Pegfest!

hohehoho!
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 41 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (mahen):
@mahen We fixed this in April!

...two that is!
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 42 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Amon_Re):
P.S. Amon_Peg: on schedule and rocking!

Hurry up guys, Raquel is about to take the computer away from me!
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 43 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Alfred Schwarz on 03-Jun-2003 10:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (bbrv):
> We fixed this in April!

???

Ciao, Alfred
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 44 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 10:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
>> A man after my own heart, wasn't it then honeymoon and then a rig in Ghana (sorry, knew it started with a "G").

Yep. I've spent so many hours over the last 2 months on a aeroplane that my ass is now the same shape as a plane seat!!! I'm sure you know exactly how that feels from personal experience. :-)

>> How long will you be in Amsterdam? When exactly?

I'll only be there for around 4 hours on Thursay unless there are some delays. I have to catch another flight to Houston. I'm hoping that the plane breaks down and I'll get to roam the city for a day, however I have a new wife that's hardly seen me since we got married and she wants me home. She also assures me that if there's any "unusual charges" on my credit card statement then she's going to murder me in my sleep. I've no idea what she means!!! :-(

> About the connectors...that refers to the CPU card of the Pegasos and how it connects to the mainboard. The CPU (G4) goes on the card (we know you know that, but thought we should clarify this for the others).

I was (trying and failed) to make a little joke there. However, now I think about it, on both the A1 and Pegasos the processor goes on a removeable card, so what's to stop Eyetech producing a G4 card for Pegasos owners to undercut your company or for your company to produce an AmigaOne CPU upgrade card to undercut any Eyetech product? After all, whoever purchases the most G4's in quantity gets the best price (no?) so if you are not just targeting your motherboard, but also a rivals then you'll be able to order and sell more G4's? Mind you, even combined A1/Pegasos units probably don't add up to a "discountable" order.

Just thinking... It's a hobby of mine ;-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 45 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 10:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (bbrv):
You know me, just stirring up some sh** around this place like you... :-P ;-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 46 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Darrin):
I'd love to see the former Phase5 dudes going back to beeing just acceleratorboard manufacturers again... ;-)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 47 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 03-Jun-2003 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
@ bbrv

> FYI, 1GHz, 1.2 GHz and 1.3 GHz Pegasos G4 cards to be produced next week. The
> commercial release will be in July, depending on which version has the best
> price vs. performance ratio.

Cool. But I agree with the many others, it would be better with a huge heatsink than an annoying fan. If you go for a fan, don't use a cheap noisy one. Perhaps you could include those aspects in your evaluation? I know that many likes (me included) the silence from their current G3's.


@ Anonymous

>> And pigs might fly
> Pegs will fly

:-)


@ MiniBobF

> Once again, changing the substance of a message thread to suit your own
> needs.

Why was this "Faster G4 processors from Motorola" posted here in the first place? Because G4's are of interest to the Amiga community since you can use them in A1/Pegasos systems. The "can use them" is the key.

The first Off Topic post in this thread (not counting the meaningless "pigs might fly") was yours!
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 48 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 03-Jun-2003 10:46 GMT
Could you guys please do your chat sessions in other more relevant places, it's fu..... annoying to see another thread getting "hijacked" by some MOS people and their guru ;)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 49 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 03-Jun-2003 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Darrin):
@Darrin...think a little harder about that one while you are exercising on the plane...;-)

@Sammy! Let's PegOut!

@tmhg No fans or even propellers on these flying Pegs! They are rockets! Pegs in Space!

(five more minutes!)
Faster G4 processors from Motorola : Comment 50 of 86ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 03-Jun-2003 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (bbrv):
mahen:
> I think this G4 upgrade is to make ppl wait for the peg2; it should work much
> better with the pegasos 2.

bbrv:
> We fixed this in April!

But the April does not give you DDR ...
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