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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 13:30 GMT
@Ben Hermans

Does the zoom gadget in intuition work properly
now?
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Posted by dennis on 08-Jun-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Don Cox):
with reference to older programs needing promotion, i think the "real" problem is not having a newer program to replace it. the real solution being a new program to do that job, not an OS hack.

what program/s in particular are u thinking of? perhaps amiga or hyperion could try and do something to help kickstart some more life back into the amiga shareware/freeware scene like a competiton or two of some sort to develop some cool apps/utilities for amigaOS 4.
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
"The upside is that OS 4.0 is now a much more complete package than originally envisaged."

Yet, it will still be about a decade behind what's on offer elsewhere. [*]

"I can understand your frustration but I dare say that under the circumstances we have not done such a bad job especially when you compare it to those other would-be saviours of the Amiga: VisCorp, Escom and Gateway."

No trouble agreeing there, but I think the lesson taken away should have been different. The Amiga platform is no longer financially viable, so treat it as the hobby that it is, rather than trying to make a business deal out of it.

[*] What's on the horizon in 1993? Microsoft delivering real pre-emptive, multi-user memory protected OS for the PC, Apple announcing PowerPC based home computer, Web browsing escapes the research labs.
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Posted by Georg Steger on 08-Jun-2003 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
> This is what Detlef had to say:
>
> "No chance, sorry. The "System Default Font" is a public pointer in the
> public graphics.library base guaranteed to point to a struct TextFont

Hmm ... I wouldn't say no chance. Hack extreme:
switch (poke) GfxBase->DefaultFont during task switches.
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Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 08-Jun-2003 14:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>Add to that the fact we needed to duplicate all the 3.5-3.9 code
>which was unavailable to us and the fact that we initially considered
>a MorphOS like design but ended going for something more ambitious.

You don't say the truth here.
Your initial design (in october 2001) was nothing like MorphOS.

And you current one is still far inferior to everything else. You will
be forced to rewrite most of it if you want to use box concept one day
(it's the only way to have a crashproof OS while retaining
compatibility).
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Posted by Don Cox on 08-Jun-2003 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (dennis):
"with reference to older programs needing promotion, i think the "real" problem is not having a newer program to replace it. the real solution being a new program to do that job, not an OS hack."

We have only a very small number of programmers working on Amiga software.

Somehow they are not very interested in writing exact clones of older programs, so useful features get lost if the old programs no longer run. For example, "Perfect" Paint has many features of its own but is completely lacking all the animation features of DeLuxe Paint. Result - there is no tool for creating 2D animations for Amithlon or AmigaOne.

In most cases the authors have long ago left the platform and the code is not available.

In the case of the Default Font, this is mainly a cosmetic problem. An example is the file requester in Transwrite, which is an excellent word processor for professional writers. There are many other older programs which assume that the default font will always be 8 pixels high.

Even Pagestream has non-font-sensitive requesters (dozens of them), but at least it provides its own bitmap font and doesn't use the default.

Generally, only programs written with MUI are truly font-sensitive, and it is a matter of luck whether the default font is used or a custom one.
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Posted by DET Nicolas on 08-Jun-2003 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (AmigaFan):
Hi !

You should better try to get a Pegasos !

Why ?

Because there ie no hardware bug (April fixed ArticiaS bugs)
Because MorphOS is already running very well. Moreover, it is designed for the future, full PPC, it rocks !

The Amiga name is the proprietery of some people, the Amiga spirit is somewhere else
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Posted by Ben on 08-Jun-2003 15:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Tryo):
You really need to expand on your answers there, otherwise they just dont make any sense... :)
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Posted by Nate Downes on 08-Jun-2003 15:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (ExiE):
A subsidiary of Gateway.
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Posted by Ben on 08-Jun-2003 15:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Nicolas Sallin):
Interesting theory. Is that your experience in virtual machines talking then?
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Posted by AlBolone on 08-Jun-2003 15:35 GMT
> recognisable as Amiga

Well, why use this brushed metal surface then, which is clearly an Mac OS thing (and a few years old by now, too)?? I certainly am bored by just copying other companies solutions. Especially in this case, since this brushed metal skin is nothing like "clean", but pure cheap eyecandy ... :(

Everything else is unfortunately not really innovative, but ok with me.
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 16:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Nicolas Sallin):
>You don't say the truth here.
>Your initial design (in october 2001) was nothing like MorphOS.

>And you current one is still far inferior to everything else. You will
>be forced to rewrite most of it if you want to use box concept one day
>(it's the only way to have a crashproof OS while retaining
>compatibility).

That's funny Sallin, because why crashes MorphOS all the time then? Let me uess because the A-box is the only box on top of Q-box? So there's no way to "restart" the A-box other then to reset the damn thing? Oh and Sallin, when does MorphOS get even remotely close to WB1.0? Damn, you cannot hide the immature OS underneath a pretty skin, Sallin, while I don't know if a box aproach is superior or not to the AmigaOS4 method, I do very well know that Morphos is nowhere near to the functionallity and stability of OS3.x. OK you can tell everyone that it's faster then OS3.1 but is it your hard work or it is simply a 600Mhz G3 vs. a <= 80Mhz 060? And what about the 3D drivers Sallin? Is it soooo much work or aren't you capable of the the great work the Friedens did? There is not even a Voodoo3 3d driver available to Beta2 testers. You keep telling the beta testers that there is one and that the Radeon drivers are in developent, but hey, you cannot ly to them forever. Maybe development has started, but you cannot show a single pixel rendered by the Radeon to anyone.

Ow and I guess that the trolls will soon enter this thread, because every time that Billy Buck reads these kinds of negative comments, he quickly jumps to #morphOS on IRC asking people to comment possitively or stand by the side of a MorphOS lamer who is in serious trouble in a particular thread. And the poor lamers always do exactly what he says. Must be pretty heavy stuff in management books today, only psychological stuff of how to control th people's mind instead of doing fair business.
But he can always bribe people with a pegasos ofcourse...erm oops they are not being produced anymore....well he can promise then a Pegasos II.

Ow and in case you wonder if I own a Pegasos, probably to track me down...well no, but I do know someone who owns a Pegasos and while he's happy with it and is kinda brainwashed by it probably the speed (which again has nothing to do with MorphOS itself) he fails to admit that it's not stable, lack much functionability and craches when you f@rt to loud.
I as an objective amiga user do know that the claimed superiority is absolute nonsense and all the lamers claiming that Morphos is miles ahead of OS4 should do a reality check on themselfs because yes it got the looks, but it simply hasn't got maturity of OS3.x (and thus OS4) to be called an usable OS or even an Amiga Replacement OS.
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Posted by Joël EHRET on 08-Jun-2003 17:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
First of all, personal attacks as anonymous is coward..

Second : I played wipeout 2097 with 3D acceleration on Nicolas Sallin
machines during a pulic party last weekend and so did lots of other
people...

Please be informed before opening your mouth...

I won't comment the rest it's more low than everything
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 17:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
Hello,

No need to comment. You just discredited you completely by yourself, congratulation.

Regards
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Posted by DET Nicolas on 08-Jun-2003 17:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
Well, As Frodon, my first things I plan to do was to post :

"No comment"

But, I still can't control myself, when I hear you !!!

First, MorphOS is stable. Oh, yes there is no MP (memory protection), but as you know it is impossible to implent with the AmigaOS API. However, if you use bugfree and system-friendly software (aka no hardware-access, ...) Everything just goes well !
At least, I can say that everything rocks for me. And when I use my Pegasos, I only reboot to switch under Linux, try some new stuuf (updates), or crash (when I devellop my own soft !!!!).

Immature ? Well, Ambient is still in heavy devellopement. But it is as usable as AmigaOS 3.x. To help it, I use ToolManager and DOpus 4. It's very usefull while I wait for some new Ambient features.

Voodoo3 3d drivers and so on are comming. But it takes time. As I see, MorphOS team wants everything to be very stable/efficience for the final user so it takes times.
And I've played to WipeOut 2097. This has been shown in some place now !

No Radeon drivers ? common on ! Yes there is !
I boot every day my MorphOS with my Radeon !
Overlay and 3d drivers are still in develloement, ATM.

Well, I could speak about that during dozen of pages, So I will stop here.

But my feelings is that the people who owns the Amiga name are not the people who try to keep the Amiga spirit in a new OS.
My feeling is that MorphOS rocks, and is design for the future.
My feeling is that the Pegasos is the only non-Apple PowerPC computer working.
My feeling is that AmigaOS 4.0 is far to be finish
My feeling is that there is no real future for AmigaOS 4.0 because it lacks a good design and a hardware to run on (AmigaOne use a buggy ArticiaS).

Ok, this thread will not stop everything around AmigaOS 4/MorphOS/AmigaOS/Pegasos but.$
Think, What is the best hardware choice ?
What is the best software choice ?

I've made my choice.

If anyone have good argument for AmigaOS 4.0/AmigaOne feel free to contact me !
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 18:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Joël EHRET):
>Second : I played wipeout 2097 with 3D acceleration on Nicolas Sallin
>machines during a pulic party last weekend and so did lots of other
>people...

Then how privelaged are you? No beta2 tester ever saw that. And what's the big deal by not releasing it? The G-REX driver is ages old isn't it? Oh..no that was hyperion's.

Or did they manage to get Warp3D running again? Anyways, while your busy answerring. Where's the native MorphOS Quake2? Also on Sallin's computer?
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 18:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Frodon):
>No need to comment. You just discredited you completely by yourself, >congratulation.

I'm afraid that not the case dear frodon, there no single line in it that's not thru, especially the Bill Buck part....I think that's the most funny of all....
Bill Buck in #morphos > Mister X gas a hardtime on Amiga.org, can you help him please?
Bill buck on #MorphOS> There's was a not so possitive review of MorphOS on Osnews. Can you guys post some possitive comments and make her clear that she is wrong?


But he frodon, I count you as one of the loyal bill I-do-everything-you-want-for-a-Pegasos troll.
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 18:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Anonymous):
Hello,

People like you are the principal persons who deterior the community and destroy the Amiga, and everything related to it, slowly. By acting like that, you just disgust more and more people.

If you want to see the Amiga, and all things related to it, dead, then continue. You're on the right way for that.

Regards
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 18:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Anonymous):
Hello,

That's your problem, you've no clue of what you are talking and say untrue (yes i repeat, untrue) things based on your speculations just because you want to bash MorphOS. And worser, you are hidding yourself liek if you were afraid of something.

As I said, people like you are just disgusting others and because of that, destroying the Amiga and all things related to it.

Regards
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Jun-2003 18:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
> Ow and in case you wonder if I own a Pegasos

My guess is that you DO own a Pegasos and that you are on the BT2 mailinglist! Am I wrong?
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Jun-2003 18:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Anonymous):
The Amiga Community Crisis Management team came to my mind, remember that? ;-)
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 18:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (takemehomegrandma):
Hello,

"My guess is that you DO own a Pegasos and that you are on the BT2 mailinglist! Am I wrong?"

He said:
"Ow and in case you wonder if I own a Pegasos, probably to track me down...well no"

So it seems he doesn't have a Pegasos...

Regards
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Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Jun-2003 18:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (DET Nicolas):
Here we go again...

Trolls spreading crap all over the place, i'm supriced it took this long for them to start...

Amon_Re
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Posted by Joël EHRET on 08-Jun-2003 18:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Amon_Re):
You're right, but I think you can understand I can't keep silent when
an anonymous coward launches a personal attack against a friend.....

I really think that only trusted users should be able to post.. So
I'll have to register to CK :)

What about that?
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (DET Nicolas):
>First, MorphOS is stable. Oh, yes there is no MP (memory protection), but as >you know it is impossible to implent with the AmigaOS API. However, if you use >bugfree and system-friendly software (aka no hardware-access, ...) Everything >just goes well !

LOL!!! Bugfree and system-friendly!! I guess that only "hello world" is bugfree and system friendly... But I guess that we both agree that Ambient is far from bugfree and that's the user interface...now what is an OS nowadays without a bug free and functioning user interface.... MorphOS is years ahead of AmigaOS4? Yeah right...

>At least, I can say that everything rocks for me. And when I use my Pegasos, I >only reboot to switch under Linux, try some new stuuf (updates), or crash >(when I devellop my own soft !!!!).

What did you do? WARP 5 years ahead in time and got the first stable version?

>Immature ? Well, Ambient is still in heavy devellopement. But it is as usable >as AmigaOS 3.x. To help it, I use ToolManager and DOpus 4. It's very usefull >while I wait for some new Ambient features.

Ahem, you are aware of the fact that OS3.X has pull down menus??? Check them out and you see the missing functionallity.

>Voodoo3 3d drivers and so on are comming. But it takes time. As I see, MorphOS >team wants everything to be very stable/efficience for the final user so it >takes times.
>And I've played to WipeOut 2097. This has been shown in some place now !

LOL!!! then why release MorphOS in the current state when they want everything to be very stable and efficient. Kinda sensetive to propaganda aren't we?

>No Radeon drivers ? common on ! Yes there is !
>I boot every day my MorphOS with my Radeon !
>Overlay and 3d drivers are still in develloement, ATM.
Ofcourse you were aware that I meaning the 3D Radeon drivers...not?


>But my feelings is that the people who owns the Amiga name are not the people >who try to keep the Amiga spirit in a new OS.
>My feeling is that MorphOS rocks, and is design for the future.
>My feeling is that the Pegasos is the only non-Apple PowerPC computer working.
>My feeling is that AmigaOS 4.0 is far to be finish
>My feeling is that there is no real future for AmigaOS 4.0 because it lacks a >good design and a hardware to run on (AmigaOne use a buggy ArticiaS).

Ever went into a casino? Then don't trust your feelings when your standing at the roulette table...

You are wrong because:
1)Who cares that the the AmigaInc don't have to right amiga feeling...they aren't coding AmigaOS4 are they.
2)MorphOS wasn't designed with the future in mind. Morphos was designed to run on the A/BOX/Pre-box as an unofficial PPC native AmigaOS 68k replacement os.It was designed with two things in mind: PPC and Amiga binairy compatibility.
3) Maybe you should search the internet for PPC computers and go to your dealer and check out what CPU the AmigaONE uses.
4)Wrong again. I think you agree with me that OS3.X is more complete and mature then Morphos will be in the next two years...Especially Workbench is a lot more advanced then Ambient. Well hey...wasn't OS4 a PPC port of OS3.x with added features?
5) This design is so great they they can't even get it to run stable with a 133Mhz FSB..now check out the nearest AmigaONE. Ow and don't talk about the PegasosII, it isn't there yet.....


>Think, What is the best hardware choice ?
I guess you want to talk about future hardware An PCI-X -> AGP2x hack or a clean AGP4x port? hmm... not that hard. give me that Articia P based mobo.

>What is the best software choice ?
Software or Operating system? I guess that I want'at least the functionallity that I'm used of the past 12 years....And that is at least AmigaOS3.x, so that makes me want AmigaOS4, and not some wanna be OS coded by frustrated I want to make the next amigaOS, but i'm not allowed to so I hack my own compatability, coders....


>I've made my choice.
Good for you...

>If anyone have good argument for AmigaOS 4.0/AmigaOne feel free to contact me !

LOL! Nah.. I don't think that it makes sense to contact you.....or anyone else outside reality
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Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Jun-2003 18:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (DET Nicolas):
Shove it, *NOT ONE COMPANY, DEVELOPER, OR PERSON* but the genesi camp has issue's with the ArticiaS.

It's a pegasos problem, not A1

Amon_Re
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 18:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Joël EHRET):
A personal attack? Showing facts is a personal attack? You know an attack against "our sandbox approach is more better and advanced then your approach" friend?

Well quote the personal attack for me will you? Or do you mean the morphOS camp as your friend? In that case you're right it is a personal attack against your friend.
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Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Jun-2003 18:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Joël EHRET):
I haven't got the faintest idea what you mean there buddy, sorry :)

Cheers
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 19:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
Hello,

All I can see from your posts is:

1) You are clueless.

2) You have no knowledge at all on software development.

3) You don't know what is an OS and things related to OS.

4) You should try to apply your critics for AmigaOS, you'd see it is not perfect also (nothing is perfect by the way).

5) You are afraid of something as you're still hidding yourself. I really wonder why.

6) You are destroying the Amiga and its community.

Regards
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 19:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
Hello,

"LOL! Nah.. I don't think that it makes sense to contact you.....or anyone else outside reality"

Ah that's why you are anonymous! At last I understood! You're not real, you're not in the reality, and so you can't be contacted as you even don't have an identity :)

Regards
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 19:24 GMT
Christ, the usual crap from the usual people. :-(

When nothing happens it's "you haven't done anything".

When something happens it's "inferior to existing PC stuff".

And then someone inevitably drags the bootless MOS/AOS4 debate into it.
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 19:35 GMT
Hello,

Ok let's put a end to this completely useless debate.

This is an AmigaOS 4 thread, so please speak about OS 4 in the next comments.

Regards
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 19:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Frodon):
All I can see from your posts is:

>1) You are clueless.
Of course, i'm not telling what you want to hear/like.
And about clueless....hehe we know better especially the bill buck part.

>2) You have no knowledge at all on software development.
Oh no?? then what have I been coding lately...??? ah...you almost got me on that one....

>3) You don't know what is an OS and things related to OS.
I don't know what an OS is....LOL!!! Enlighten me please what is an OS?? *poor guy*

>4) You should try to apply your critics for AmigaOS, you'd see it is not >perfect also (nothing is perfect by the way).
NOt??? Nothing is perfect? *shock horror* all the comments latety how perfect, stable, fast, groundbravking, GODLY and 100X more advanced then AmigaOS3.x and AmigaOS4 together MorphOS is. All NOT true then?


>5) You are afraid of something as you're still hidding yourself. I really >wonder why.

Ah finally, I started to wonder when someone want to know my identity....you probably want to track down my source? Well better luck next time...

>6) You are destroying the Amiga and its community.
Uh!??? I thought about this sentense for 5 minutes at least, but how on earth am I destroying the AMIGA community !!??

The only thing I can imagine why YOU think that I am destoying the amiga community is that you really must be thinking that morphOS is part of the amiga community, well it's not!!!

MorphOS = morphOS. A new platform with a huge degree of AmigaOS wannabe. But hey, the amiga commutity has it's own OS, amigaOS4.0, now why don't you assemble your own community, MorphOS wasn't targetting the Amiga right?
You're only getting on our nerves when you talk about "our" OS being "inferior" and years behind your OS while every insider knows that it's quite the opposite.
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 19:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Frodon):
>Ah that's why you are anonymous! At last I understood! You're not real, you're >not in the reality, and so you can't be contacted as you even don't have an >identity :)

That's a symptom of if you're afraid of someone/something. simple wish that it's/he's not real.
Well I am real...It's time that someone says put an end to the anti-Amiga campaign.
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 19:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Anonymous):
Hello,

Damn I was kidding and you take it seriously (and I even put a smiley)...

Regards
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Anonymous):
Hello,

"It's time that someone says put an end to the anti-Amiga campaign"

And you think the most clever thing for that is to make an anti-MorphOS campaign?

Regards
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Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Jun-2003 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Frodon):
Why not? ;)

I found that his post was a nice read, but now the thread is degenerating into a fight :(

Maybe he's wrong, maybe he's not, i don't know, i'm not on the bt2 list, and frankly, i don't care, it's about MOS, i don't want MOS :)

So, how about we get back on topic?

Cheers
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 20:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Anonymous):
Hello,

" Uh!??? I thought about this sentense for 5 minutes at least, but how on earth am I destroying the AMIGA community !!??"

Why? It's simple, you are disgusting people by putting a very bad ambiance with your flamewar posts.

As I said, it's far from clever to answer to an anti-amiga post with an anti-morphos post. It puts a very bad ambiance and disgust lot of people.

THIS IS AN AMIGAOS 4 THREAD! Do you know what that means? Stop posting posts about MorphOS please!

Regards
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jun-2003 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Frodon):
HIS IS AN AMIGAOS 4 THREAD! Do you know what that means? Stop posting posts about MorphOS please!

Regards

You could of said that along time ago.
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Posted by Ian Shurmer on 08-Jun-2003 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Frodon):
Pot, kettle, black :-)
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (Anonymous):
Hello,

"You could of said that along time ago"

This is already the second time I said it at least :(

Regards
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Posted by brotheris on 08-Jun-2003 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
I'll butt-in

> MorphOS is years ahead of AmigaOS4? Yeah right...

It is released. Atleast this puts MorphOS in lead.

> 2)MorphOS wasn't designed with the future in mind. Morphos was designed to run > on the A/BOX/Pre-box as an unofficial PPC native AmigaOS 68k replacement os.It > was designed with two things in mind: PPC and Amiga binairy compatibility.

AmigaOS4 is what ? For now they are almost the same. Box concept allows full mp for an OS. ExecSG concept doesn't allow that (unless offcourse only for new apps <- tell me what will you get ? ;-)

> 4)Wrong again. I think you agree with me that OS3.X is more complete and
> mature then Morphos will be in the next two years...

do a floppy install please.

> I guess you want to talk about future hardware An PCI-X -> AGP2x hack or a
> clean AGP4x port? hmm... not that hard. give me that Articia P based mobo.

ArticiaP doesn't exist...


your wording is strong, but arguments are weak. Have a look at Don Cox, may he be an example (I don't know him personaly, I'm basing my oppinion on what he writes in forums and mailing lists)
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Posted by Ian Shurmer on 08-Jun-2003 20:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (brotheris):
>>It is released.

Is it released for public sale? Is it out of Beta?

Bill Buck has publically stated it won't be sold until it is ready to be sold. Therefore, IMO it has not been properly released yet.

Ian :-)
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Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 08-Jun-2003 20:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Frodon):
[Quote]... 6) You are destroying the Amiga and its community.[/Quote]

From my point of view, the one(s) trying to destroy Amiga (not just the name) and its community is/are BBRV!

With all their FUD now, and in the past, how do anyone think they can trust them?
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Posted by Frodon on 08-Jun-2003 20:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
Hello,

@Henning Nielsen Lund

If only things where so simple.

IMHO any people who start flamewars, who personal attack someone, critic destructively, or say anything vulgary are contributing to destroy the Amiga and its community.

That's to say, anyone who put a bad ambiance and make people fighting each others are contributing to destroy the Amiga and its community. And there are more than one person in that case :(

Regards
Official Hyperion OS4 Screenshots now on-line : Comment 96 of 149ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 08-Jun-2003 20:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Frodon):
"DET Nicolas:"
If anyone have good argument for AmigaOS 4.0/AmigaOne feel free to contact me !

"Anonymous:"
LOL! Nah.. I don't think that it makes sense to contact you.....or anyone else outside reality

I think i asked for this, saying morphOS is superior over AmiagOS4.0 when it is shown to the public with out the inside view on what AmigaOS4.0 is plan stupid, if you going to argue you most accept you can't win every argument.

I have waited for some thing like this for a loooonnnnnggggg tiiimmmmeeee!
if the AmigaOS4.0 supporters problem in argument like this on subjects like,

"There is no AmigaOS4.0",
"McEven is not the CIO of AmigaInc",
"AmigaInc is going bankrupt",
"AmigaOS4.0 future plans"

I think there a grate deal of users at an that are dishonest, even lie to them self.
Official Hyperion OS4 Screenshots now on-line : Comment 97 of 149ANN.lu
Posted by Lolly on 08-Jun-2003 20:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Don Cox):
Don Wrote: "Usually when people say something cannot be done in AmigaOS, it is done sooner or later. ;-)"

Aye, but its usually a hack that breaks older programs... D'OH! ;-)
Official Hyperion OS4 Screenshots now on-line : Comment 98 of 149ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 08-Jun-2003 20:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Ian Shurmer):
compare it with os4. You can buy it with pegasos. You don't get os4 with aone.
Official Hyperion OS4 Screenshots now on-line : Comment 99 of 149ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 08-Jun-2003 20:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Amon_Re):
> Shove it, *NOT ONE COMPANY, DEVELOPER, OR PERSON* but
> the genesi camp has issue's with the ArticiaS.

Sure... - that's why Eyetech is the only one selling such a board, eh? And because of that Ross Heinlein canceled his Articia-based Barbie board, right? And also because just Genesi having problems Terrasoft also doesn't plan to sell the Teron currently - for reasons they don't want to discuss in public? What a series of strange coincidences...
Official Hyperion OS4 Screenshots now on-line : Comment 100 of 149ANN.lu
Posted by Ian Shurmer on 08-Jun-2003 20:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (brotheris):
When it's released you will...

You know, private beta testing - not public! ;-)

Ian
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