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AmigaWorld.net has posted three new screenshots of AmigaOS4. Various well known classic Amiga titles including SnoopDOS and DirectoryOpus are shown running while using the new highly customizable interface and anti-aliased fonts. For today 'AmigaOS 4 on Tour' events are planned for Austria and Sweden. Earlier this week I wrote a report of last week's Swiss event.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 1 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 28-Jun-2003 00:17 GMT
I wonder if Steffen Haeuser is around to 'set up' (explain in detail) the screenshots?
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 2 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 06:05 GMT
Finally beginning to like the GUI.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 3 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 28-Jun-2003 06:16 GMT
Look closely at that active window in snap 3 (with dopus):
it has 3 different looks for 4 window borders. The left border (which shows how much space used) has a somewhat flat look to it, meaning that there is no gradient used. Looks very different in style from the one at the right side. Both the bottom border and right border look ok. But then, the top border looks completely different again, using what seems to be another blue (especially going towards the bottom of the border).

Also i hope that the arrow in snap1 is something which is not finished yet and there seems to be no consistency in snap1. Gradient used on the sliders and others, but not on the buttons. It looks quite a mess in there. But it appears that this was not finished.

But looking better and better each time!!
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 4 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 06:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (z5):
Hmm, perhaps it was kind of stupid of Hyperion to use MakeCD as
an example, since it uses the Triton GUI toolkit. This toolkit
draws its own buttons, and is not using Gadtools, which in turn
means that some of the gadgets cannot be patched to the new OS4
look (as of yet).

This explains the inconsistency...
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 5 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 28-Jun-2003 06:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
ah, that explains a lot :) My comments on snap1 are then useless :)

thanks.

one little point still: the connection between the top border of a window and the right and left side, it would look better if that could be done without an interruption. It is now as if the top border is on top of the left/right/bottom window border. There is a separation line at both side where the left and right border start.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 6 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 28-Jun-2003 06:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
It is now looking very good IMO.

If "Convert" on the Partition Wizard is a Tooltip, then its font is rather big. I hope there is a separate setting for the Tooltips font - this is a problem in MUI where it uses the same font as for menus. You want a much smaller font for Tooltips than for menus.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 7 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Niclas A on 28-Jun-2003 07:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
I don't think it was stupid but nice to see that OS4 can patch Triton GUI too. Oh and i just love the new font system :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 8 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 28-Jun-2003 08:00 GMT
Looks promising. :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 9 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 08:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Niclas A):
Just to make it clear, Triton seem to use some GadTools
gadgets, for instance the cycle menu gadget. That explains why
that gadget is having the OS4 style. So in effect, OS4
is not patching the Triton GUI per se :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 10 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Jeff Martin on 28-Jun-2003 08:59 GMT
Very nice.:)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 11 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Niclas on 28-Jun-2003 09:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Yeah yeah! ;o) I give up!

But anyway.. i like to use MakeCD when OS4 is out and now i know that it works, i'm happy with that.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 12 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 09:40 GMT
I like the new look, it's much better than the
previous "brushed metal" look. Check out that
nice checkmark. :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 13 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Niclas A on 28-Jun-2003 10:08 GMT
In the picture with partition wizard there is a prefs icon that says Screens.. Wounder what that do ? :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 14 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 11:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Niclas A):
AFAIK, the Screens icon is something along the same lines of the PSI utlity of MUI fame. It will let you define screens that your programs then will be able
to use. It's nice to have this as standard in the OS.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 15 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Man on the moon on 28-Jun-2003 14:04 GMT
When the phuq will you people stop dreaming and start open your eyes?
Hey, please turn on your brains, what of all those boring snapshots you saw is real? All that we know now is that - yawn - there is an AmigaOS 3.9 with an updated gui.
OS4 is running (how much fast? how stable? no one knows) on classic Amigas, which incidentally have real 68k and custom chips, equipped with CyberstormPPC: without them OS4 won't even boot.
Please stop spreading those damn lame screenshots (btw, hey Mr. Hermans: OS4 runs in 800x600 mode only?!) and give us sumthing REAL to play with.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 16 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 28-Jun-2003 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Man on the moon):
"OS4 runs in 800x600 mode only"

Those grabs are 1024x768
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 17 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 28-Jun-2003 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Man on the moon):
>and give us sumthing REAL to play with.I'm afraid these screenshots are the only thing he can give people to play with ;)Leo.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 18 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by zynaps on 28-Jun-2003 15:32 GMT
Very nice but the font used was to big in places, would have looked better with smaller font :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 19 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 28-Jun-2003 15:59 GMT
In the third screenshot, look in the left DOpus view, for OS4:Kickstart. It's crammed with files which seem to be libraries, but they're called .ld instead of .library. What ever happened to the old AmigaOS custom of using human-readable file names?
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 20 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Onetrack on 28-Jun-2003 17:18 GMT
I would assume the OS is running on an older amiga hardware setup ?
(graphics mem only 2 megs at the top of the screengrabs)


If there is only 2 meg available for shifting graphics, then I'd be pretty please Hyperion can get that much oomph out of that small amount.

Now if it said something like Graphics Mem: 256meg DDR then i would expect a little more.

;)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 21 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 28-Jun-2003 18:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Onetrack):
*splutter*

The GFX-mem tells the size of the chip-mem, which is allmonst never used on
Amigas with a GFX-card. AFAIK the A4000 used for that shot had a Voodoo3 in
it and those normally come with 16 mb.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 22 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by amorel on 28-Jun-2003 21:17 GMT
I just found this site while searching for some stuff, an aos4 screenshot they`d rather not have you seeing it, enjoy it`s awful splender ;-)

http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/morphos/AWeb.jpg
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 23 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jun-2003 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Man on the moon):
>give us sumthing REAL to play with.

You can keep playing with yourself as you've always done
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 24 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 28-Jun-2003 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Man on the moon):
>give us sumthing REAL to play with.

Do you want something to just play with or do you want a fully functional, next-generation, PPC native AmigaOS? You can play with AROS, MorphOS, Amithlon, Amiga Forever, etc. AmigaOS4 on the other hand, is the real deal. You can take a look at it's feature set here:

http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4FeatureSet.php

Read the feature set carefully, I would hardly refer to it as just "AmigaOS3.9 with an updated GUI". Yes, these kind of screenshots doesn't show any new functionalities, only the new GUI. This is why they have arranged the "OS4 on Tour". Please don't make any judgements about AmigaOS4 functionality until you've seen it and tried it yourself.

You really should know better than judging an OS from just looking at screenshots. You could've atleast read the feature set before dismissing the entire AmigaOS4 team's hard work, you know...
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 25 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Man on the moon on 29-Jun-2003 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Samface):
>Do you want something to just play with or do you want a fully functional, >next-generation, PPC native AmigaOS? You can play with AROS, MorphOS, >Amithlon, Amiga Forever, etc. AmigaOS4 on the other hand, is the real deal.

AROS, Amithlon, WinUAE on my Amiga?! What the phuq are you talking about?
I played with them all, but as far as I remember I run 'em on x86 only... hmmm... prolly I am missing sumthing...
Oh, and at least for the MorphOS ages ago there was a (dirrrty) demo running on my machines: obviously I played with it, but I got bored by its unstability pretty soon... v1.0 for classic Amigas anyone?

>You can take a look at it's feature set here:
>You really should know better than judging an OS from just looking at >screenshots. You could've atleast read the feature set before dismissing the >entire AmigaOS4 team's hard work, you know...

I read that feature list many times, long time ago: but after a while, the only happiness I got from it, was printing it and using the papers to smack my biatch up... are you really happy with a fscking .pdf filled with crap marketing nice'n'gorgeous words?
D'ya really have enough?? If so, I got many brochures here for you to play with.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 26 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Man on the moon on 29-Jun-2003 05:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
>You can keep playing with yourself as you've always done

Playing with myself is nice, but you know, "when masturbation's lost its fun
you're fucking lazy"...
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 27 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jun-2003 06:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Man on the moon):
Why don't you do us a favour and moonwank yourself out of here.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 28 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Jun-2003 08:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Samface):
Do you want something to just play with or do you want a fully functional, next-generation, PPC native AmigaOS? You can play with AROS, MorphOS, Amithlon, Amiga Forever, etc. AmigaOS4 on the other hand, is the real deal. You can take a look at it's feature set here:
--

Sorry Sam, MorphOS is a next generation AmigaOS clone and it does the job REALLY
well... it's not a toy, as much as you try to present it as such... Sorry again.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 29 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jun-2003 08:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Man on the moon):
> Playing with myself is nice, but you know, "when masturbation's lost its fun
> you're fucking lazy"...

Ahhhhh, go Greenday!

OS4 Rulz
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 30 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jun-2003 08:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Samface):
> You can play with AROS, MorphOS, Amithlon, Amiga Forever,> etc. AmigaOS4 on the other hand, is the real deal. The last real AmigaOS was 3.1 from Commodore.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 31 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Jack Me on 29-Jun-2003 08:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (amorel):
"I just found this site while searching for some stuff, an aos4 screenshot they`d rather not have you seeing it, enjoy it`s awful splender ;-)

http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/morphos/AWeb.jpg"

If it's supposed to be an AOS4 screenshot why is it stored in a morphos web folder? Check the URL.;)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 32 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 29-Jun-2003 09:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Jack Me):
Actually that really *is* a OS4 screenshot. Check for the window gadgets.
AFAIK the screenshot was posted to the AWeb ML before.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 33 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jun-2003 09:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (David Scheibler):
And the point of a Pegasos/MOS supporter posting it in this thread was for what ?
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 34 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 29-Jun-2003 10:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (amorel):
What makes you say this is an AOS4 screenshot?

Cheers
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 35 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 29-Jun-2003 11:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Amon_Re):
It is an OS4 screenshot made by an OS4 betatester to allow us to iron out bugs in AWeb's usage of ReAction in OS4.
Two distinct errors occur:
1. The unability to snapshot window positions outside the boundary of the screen.
2. Colormapping is incorrect as you can see.

Regards
Henrik Mikael Kristensen
AWeb Development Team
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 36 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 29-Jun-2003 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Samface):
Oh, you mean exactly like you just dismissed MorphOS, AROS, Amithlon, Amiga Forever etc as mere toys? You have tried them all right? With no preconceptions? Thought so.

I really don't get why you even bother trying to play this knight in shining armor stuff, most people have already seen through your shallow little game long ago, and I'm sure more and more see it every time you post obvious bias slagfests like this, and as usual you're the one dragging petty OS wars into the thread, which is pretty evident with your reply to a post with no mention of MorphOS, AROS, Amithlon or Amiga Forever (infact, the whole thread had been totally clean of any mention of either until you brought it up), yet you manage to twist it into OS bashing, way to go, hope you're proud of yourself...


- CISC
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 37 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 29-Jun-2003 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Jack Me):
http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/morphos/AWeb.jpg"

Try removing aweb.jpg and you will se,

How lame!!!
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 38 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by David Rey on 30-Jun-2003 00:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Kjetil):
Better yet, follow the "MorphOSXL" link.

I guess this is what they call "delusional" ?
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 39 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by _ on 30-Jun-2003 05:40 GMT
If SnoopDOS 3.0 (!!) still runs under AmigaOs 4.0 then I wonder "how deep" the changes in DOS and the rest actually can have been - it definitely has positive and negative aspects.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 40 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jun-2003 08:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Iggy Drougge):
..these are (as you can see) special kickstart modules. they can be named .library if really needed. but these files will end up stuck on bootrom etc in the end.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 41 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jun-2003 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (_):
if 3.0 runs, then they're fortunate. 3.8 is available
on Aminet...and thats been patched to work around various
OS4 things. as well as the new dos V50 having various
parts written to give as much backwards compatability as possible -
whilst allowing many new features and abilities
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 42 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Alfred Schwarz on 30-Jun-2003 09:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
> MorphOS is a next generation AmigaOS clone

Not really, MorphOS is something different, the ABox (currently more or less everything that MorphOS has) is an AmigaOS clone.

Ciao, Alfred
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 43 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Jan van Almer on 30-Jun-2003 10:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Alfred Schwarz):
Or MorphOS is an Amiga wannabe. :)
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 44 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jun-2003 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Iggy Drougge):
>In the third screenshot, look in the left DOpus view, for OS4:Kickstart. It's >crammed with files which seem to be libraries, but they're called .ld instead >of .library. What ever happened to the old AmigaOS custom of using >human-readable file names?

Very good point. Unreadable file names and extensions suck.
Furthermore, they look like Peecee or Linux crap that noone wants on an Amiga.
Latest Official AmigaOS4 screenshots : Comment 45 of 45ANN.lu
Posted by _ on 30-Jun-2003 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
LD reminds to unix shared libraries (and the GCC linker of course).
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