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[Web] MorphOS Developer Connection in new design and with new featuresANN.lu
Posted on 02-Oct-2003 11:47 GMT by Felix Schwarz (Edited on 2003-10-02 13:57:08 GMT by Christophe Decanini)56 comments
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Genesi's MorphOS Developer Connection now presents itself in a new and fresh design and reflects Genesi's common website look and cooperate identity.

Also, parts of the site have undergone restructuring. For example, the links-section can now be found as sub-category of the member section (previously "addressbook").

Since MDC's initial opening nearly four months ago, lots of changes and improvements have taken place and new sections have been added: * MDC Library
The new library grows steadily and will be the primary source of technical information on MorphOS for developers.

* MDC Labs
The MDC Labs right now offer a growing database of detailed and standardized software compatibility tests in its "Software Compatibility" section to provide MorphOS users with information on the compatibility of third party software with MorphOS.

* My MDC
In this section, members of the MDC have control over all settings that affects their account, including the subscription to forums in the form of mailinglists. In the future, more settings and services are planned.

* Third party developer tools
Since two months, the MDC is home to a growing archive of third party developer tools. Among them are MIDI development tools, USB scanner driver sources, VHI example drivers, 3D and other development tools for C and Pascal.

Besides these tools, information and services, the MDC continues to support MorphOS developers with discussion groups, a global addressbook, the MorphOS SDK, project managment tools, event planner and much more. At the time of writing the MDC has 324 members interested in development or actively developing for MorphOS, building a unique, very helpful and supportive community focused on development for MorphOS.

About MorphOS Developer Connection

The MorphOS Developer Connection (MDC) is offered by Genesi as a free service for all developers interested in MorphOS. The MDC is a central interface between you, the developer, and Genesi that offers communication and support for your MorphOS projects. Genesi supports third party projects, active developers as well as new developers for MorphOS with an infrastructure for information and organization.

At the MDC, you can find documentation, the MorphOS Software Development Kit (SDK), a discussion forum, a project management system, as well as MDC sponsored events. In addition, you will find friendly and helpful people, other developers as well as Genesi staff to assist you in learning all about how to develop for MorphOS. Through the MDC, you will find the support base you need to turn your MorphOS projects into successful projects.

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Posted by Felix Schwarz on 02-Oct-2003 09:49 GMT
Oops, forgot the link ..

http://mdc.morphos.net/
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 12:20 GMT
Nice. Feature request: search function for the forums (if missing, I may have overlooked it?).
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Posted by samface on 02-Oct-2003 12:55 GMT
> a new and fresh design and reflects Genesi's common website look and cooperate
> identity.

This "new and fresh" design and coorporate identity is awfully similar to the one of Apple. Their OS is an Amiga OS clone and their hardware is made to be compatible with both Amiga and Apple products. Is there anything Genesi has made that is original? Do they really have a coorporate identity of their own besides beeing similar or compatible with product x or y? If so, please tell me all about it because I really don't see it.

Just my "humble" opinion, flames goes to >NIL:
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Posted by itix on 02-Oct-2003 13:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
LOL. I thought this can't be real Samface.
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Posted by Lando on 02-Oct-2003 13:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
>This "new and fresh" design and coorporate identity is awfully similar to the
>one of Apple.

Nice compliment :) You're right, it does look very good.
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Posted by Hagge on 02-Oct-2003 13:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
I think it looks nice but yes, it's apple design straight thru. And I would also like to see a company which tries to do something new instead of trying to get something old up to windows standards...

I don't need an amiga compatible or beos wannabe, i want a nice desktop os =D

e17 rescue me =)
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Posted by Anonymouse cowretard on 02-Oct-2003 13:56 GMT
Hey Felix, there's a bug in the Members tab-folder -> Links feature. Click on it and this error'll occur:
<perl roooles>
Warning: main(mod_adddb_links.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/virtual/site21/fst/var/www/html/mod_adddb.inc.php on line 33
Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required 'mod_adddb_links.inc.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /home/virtual/site21/fst/var/www/html/mod_adddb.inc.php on line 33
</php stinks>
Nice new look and fresh work, tho! (Or was it fresh new look and nice work?! Duh...)
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Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Oct-2003 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Hagge):
@Hagge and the other detractors:

It's a design known as "liquid". Yes, it's undoubtably inspired by Apples's "Aqua", but that can only be a tribute to whoever came up with that idea for Apple. It's clean and it works and many "liquid" themes have been implemented in a great many places.

Would it be better if they implemented a non-liquid theme that was completely original? Yes, I suppose so. However, I'd much rather see a liquid theme on a well designed professional looking site than a mish-mash of ideas on a chaotic patchwork of a website. No names no packdrill.
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Posted by Emeric SH on 02-Oct-2003 14:40 GMT
Very nice look and feel. Congratulations!
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Posted by Felix Schwarz on 02-Oct-2003 15:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymouse cowretard):
erm, you got your tags wrong ;) .. didn't close the first and didn't start the other ;)

Keep smiling! :)

Best regards,

Felix Schwarz
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Posted by Andreas Wolf on 02-Oct-2003 15:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
> ...their hardware is made to be compatible with both Amiga and Apple products.

What exactly are the Amiga and Apple products their hardware is made to be compatible with?
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Posted by samface on 02-Oct-2003 15:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Lando):
I'm sorry but I find your conclusion of what I wrote to be rather irrational. Something can't be new, fresh and similar to something else at the same time. It's a rip-off, which is probably the worst thing you could ever say about someone's design.

But then, I do agree that this design reflects their coorporate identity.
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Posted by samface on 02-Oct-2003 15:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Andreas Wolf):
AmigaOS and MorphOS.
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Posted by samface on 02-Oct-2003 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (samface):
Aaaargh! Replace that MorphOS with MacOSX.
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Posted by Don Cox on 02-Oct-2003 15:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (samface):
"It's a rip-off, which is probably the worst thing you could ever say about someone's design."

No it's not. There are much worse things in design than a well done rip-off. Imitation is a good way to learn.
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Oct-2003 15:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
While I like originality I prefer corporate websites to be inspired from successful designs instead of being original and ugly.
For example I don't like any of the amiga.com designs. I thought it wa smuch better 3-4 years ago than now.
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Posted by Neko on 02-Oct-2003 16:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
Well, everyone else copies Apple's site, so why can't we?

It's a nice layout, nice graphical style, and it hints at some of the
technical aspects and capabilities of our products :)

If we were box shifting PCs, no doubt our site would look like Dell or
Compaq. That's just how web design is. Hey, why don't you try and do
better? Call us back when you're done :D

=Neko=
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 19:22 GMT
Site rip off is better than your hero company what rips offs Amiga users (ie Amiga Inc)
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Posted by itix on 02-Oct-2003 19:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (samface):
But arent AmigaOS MacOS clone? :)
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Posted by Amon_Re on 02-Oct-2003 19:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Felix Schwarz):
LOL! :)

Cheers
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Posted by KenH on 02-Oct-2003 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (samface):
A new born baby is new and fresh yet it looks like about a billion other babies. And like the baby, it's now the look that matters but what's inside that newly wrapped up package and what it matures into. :)

>Something can't be new, fresh and similar to something else at the same time. It's a rip-off, which is probably the worst thing you could ever say about someone's design.
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 03-Oct-2003 00:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Bill Hoggett):
As to ripping off Apple... I'll share some of the amusement, but people *have* done worse:

http://go-l.com/home/index.htm

...and yes, that's a real luxury-laptop business, apparently.
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Posted by brotheris on 03-Oct-2003 02:32 GMT
"MorphOS(TM) PPC/68k Mixed Mode Layer Information" and "General MorphOS FAQ" are outdated.
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 08:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Don Cox):
>It's a rip-off, which is probably the worst thing you could ever say about
>someone's design."
>
>No it's not. There are much worse things in design than a well done rip-off.

If it's a rip-off, then it's not even your own design to begin with. Designing is about *creating* something visual using nothing but your own skills and creativity, copying is not.

>Imitation is a good way to learn.

Sure, though I'd expect more from Genesi's coorporate design than a beginner's "practice-design".
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 08:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (KenH):
I beg to disagree, find two babies that looks exactly alike.
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Posted by someotherface on 03-Oct-2003 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (samface):
hey samface,

mind to show us YOUR website? You seem to be a real expert and we can learn a lot from you :)

Looking forward to the URL.

- someotherface
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Posted by DET Nicoals on 03-Oct-2003 09:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
@samface:

You prefer the OS4DC ?
Ah oups it doesn't exist :-P

Well, it's true it look like a little to Apple style site. But it's a clean style I think. Genesi wants to follow Apple (which has been innovative, and have a good success ? why not !!!

Ok, sorry to be evil like that. But Samface, honnestly, sometimes to times you are quiet crude with Genesi and MorphOS no ?

Bye
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Posted by Tryo on 03-Oct-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (samface):
Are you telling us MDC looks exactly the same as apple.com ?
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (someotherface):
http://www.mindrelease.net

Design and programming by Sammy Nordström, AKA "samface"
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 09:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Tryo):
No, I'm saying that there are no babies that are exactly alike.
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Posted by AlBolone on 03-Oct-2003 10:20 GMT
First time I have to clearly agree with Samface ;-) ...

Copying a design is one thing. But copying a corporate design for your own corporate design does basically the exact opposite of what corporate design should do: making your brand UNIQUE. Crouching close to a big player (and when it comes down to it a competitor) that is know for it's design won't help MorphOS a bit when they wanna leave a mark in the market. How are people supposed to recognize Genesi/MorphOS when they look like Apple/MacOS?? Not having considered this at all is a poor performance by the "designers". Their technical skills (photoshop etc.) might be excellent -- but when it comes to real design, THINKING comes first. This is called conception -- and right there and then the decision is made if the design will fail or succeed.

I actually don't understand customers eigher (in this case Genesi) why don't realize that. Their brand looking like someone elses should ring their alarms. Or are they just fooled by the "nice liquid looking" afterall?
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 10:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (DET Nicoals):
>Genesi wants to follow Apple (which has been innovative, and have a good
>success ? why not !!!

If that's your cup of tea, why not just go ahead and buy a real iMac with the real MacOSX instead? More advanced, more available, more applications, more support, true original design... why would anyone ever want a far less advanced and exotic computer platform like the Pegasos if it's just a bad attempt at beeing alike?

I'd say that Genesi would have alot more to gain on beeing original rather than constantly reinventing the wheel.
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Posted by someotherface on 03-Oct-2003 11:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (samface):
Ok, now tell me please what in the world makes your site so original? I only see a beginner's standard design, poorly put into place :)

- someotherface
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Posted by someotherface on 03-Oct-2003 11:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (samface):
.. and you even use top navigation like Apple .. very tab-like! Oh my god!! %) .. you stole their whole concept, how can you claim that is your site? ;)

- someotherface

P.S.: Just joking btw, but you sure notice how out-of-place *your* comments are now.
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Posted by someotherface on 03-Oct-2003 11:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (AlBolone):
your site please! :)

Or, haumm, no, better .. how would you have BETTER organized such a complex site? I think you can hardly do better. Congratulations to the noble designers :)

- someotherface
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Posted by DET Nicolas on 03-Oct-2003 11:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (samface):
samface:

I was speaking of the succes not about the product :-)

Well, Genesi is innovative: develloping a new OS, this is really
courageous and needed :-)

By the way, Genesi even success to make the ArticiaS working, this is
really innovative :-)

/me just teasing you !
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Posted by AlBolone on 03-Oct-2003 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (someotherface):
@ someotherface:

Car Magazine: "Model XYZ drives awfully and lacks safety."
Car manufacturer: "Well, then where's the car you journalists built?"

How naive can one be, he? The right to review, critizise and discuss something in what matter ever is nothing exclusive! Demanding "show me your website" to prove our opinion/right in this discussion is simply stupid. Who is allowed to state the obvious Apple ripp-off of Genesis corporate design then? Apple??
Following your logic, no user would have a right to report bugs, no customer to complain about a certain product. Your can surely find a lot more examples yourself ...

Sorry, your attempt to teach us otherwise was just as poor as the CD of Genesi is unique. Why the heck is there no decent discussion possible with you believer freaks??

P.S. I also don't understand what my personal site has to do with my point of view? I'm a fulltime Art Director, that doesn't have any free time to take care of his private page. So what? Am I not allowed to express my professional opinion then? Bullshit!
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Posted by samface on 03-Oct-2003 12:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (someotherface):
>Ok, now tell me please what in the world makes your site so original?

Name one site that my design resembles to the point of easily beeing mistaken for. No, the fact that it uses the standard top, left and right column layout doesn't count. There is a *huge* difference between complying with certain layout standards and the entire design of the website.
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Posted by Olegil on 03-Oct-2003 12:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
God damn, now you made me want that grand-canyon setup they have. 6400x1200 isn't a bad resolution for a desktop ;-)

Hohoho
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 03-Oct-2003 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (samface):
samface said,
> If that's your cup of tea, why not just go ahead and buy a real iMac
> with the real MacOSX instead? More advanced, more available, more
> applications, more support, true original design...

More support if you stick with MacOS and they're willing (or able) to address the issues you have. "True original design" is arguable, really; it becomes 'classic' because it's a Mac, not the other way around. Note that the Cube was apparently designed perfectly to be killed if you ever left a CD or piece of paper over its top vent, and puck mice were obviously no winners.

> why would anyone ever want a far less advanced and exotic computer
> platform like the Pegasos if it's just a bad attempt at beeing alike?

Depends how 'bad' an attempt it is. I'd love to not have to hear or think another word about Aprils or Articia bugs (unless it's full documentation of what the issues were, along with supporting chipset documentation and so on), but if that episode can be left behind, a company that's willing to actively and openly support Linux, the free BSDs, and anyone else who comes to the party, that has a "music store" that doesn't impose DRM, that happens to market an intellectual-property-clean Amiga 'clone' OS for embedded use and those who prefer its approach to OS4's... Why would anyone want an Apple? It's not like they can design UIs anymore.

I'm not saying Genesi *is* that company, just that they have the opportunity to be. And anything that gets them moving and out of this constant useless infighting is good for the community as a whole.

> I'd say that Genesi would have alot more to gain on beeing original
> rather than constantly reinventing the wheel.

It's always a tradeoff. If you *just* reinvent the wheel, that's no good, but putting the tire on it was an improvement. *Any* computer company hitting the same markets as [Apple Dell HP ___] should try to be better than their competition, that's life. It's when things bog down in lawsuits and hazy he-said-she-said debates that things turn sour. (Goes equally Intel and Broadcom, Microsoft and Apple, SCO and The World as much as anything in our scene.)

If you read any of that as playing favorites *in* the current lawsuits and accusations, you're trying too hard; I'm too lazy to write a big disclaimer paragraph qualifying some things as best decided in court and noting that, barring this one last legal action, it looks like the disputes are ironed out enough, and the products 'mature' -- or rather, 'understood' -- enough that if "intellectual property" concerns ever do get raised again, it'll be an issue of licensing and annoyance, not a death knell. (In other words, MorphOS squeaked through however, Ambient resolves one of the major complaints if that ever was one, if the DE action counts as 'fair revenge' so be it, but after this round let's hope everyone stays far away from each other outside of standard customer relations if either goes to crossport on their own dime. The fewer strings either ties to the other, the fewer they'll be tempted to try to rip out of each other's backs.)
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 03-Oct-2003 13:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Olegil):
Ergh, "Goes equally *for* Intel and...," obviously.
Hope I didn't mix more than three times the recommended daily allowance of metaphors there.

Ole.. Ole-Eg.. *Olegil* said, with enthusiasm elided to appease our fearless moderators,
> [...] now you made me want that grand-canyon setup they have.
> 6400x1200 isn't a bad resolution for a desktop ;-)

I'm almost positive that's completely outsourced from someone else, but I can't remember the name. I'll try to have a Google around for the manufacturer (hey, at some point it'll only cost as much as a *used* car), but I bet you can beat me to the name if you start scraping around for articles on the Parhelia trade-show setups.

Know I've seen 4 (three plus one in top) and 6 (two in front, two above that) display versions around somewhere... Now where are the $40 OLED panels to make it cheap?!
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Posted by Andreas Wolf on 03-Oct-2003 13:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (samface):
Pegasos is not made to be compatible with AmigaOS and MacOSX because it is not compatible with AmigaOS and MacOSX, at least mine is not. Of course one can run AmigaOS within UAE (on MorphOS or Linux) and MacOSX within MacOnLinux (on Linux) but I wouldn't call that 'compatible with the Pegasos'. I also wouldn't call the Mac Windows compatible just because one can run Windows within e.g. VirtualPC (on MacOS).
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Posted by gary_c on 03-Oct-2003 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
Samface wrote:
>This "new and fresh" design and coorporate identity is awfully similar to the one of Apple.

I just had another look at Apple's pages and MDC, and I don't think they're really especially similar. Of course they both use a horizontal tab-like menu bar, but then so do a lot of sites. The color schemes are only slightly similar; as you can see, Apple doesn't just stick with the pale blue but uses other colors to highlight various pages. You might say that the Genesi sites have a rather style that's fairly common with corporate sites these days in regard to geaneral design rules, but I don't really think MDC or the other Genesi sites are "awfully similar" to Apple's. There are actually many differences, if you want to get specific. Originality in interface design has its merits, but so does predictability. Being generally pleasing and working well for the user is probably a higher priority than trying to stake out some new ground in visual design.

-- gary_c
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Posted by André Siegel on 03-Oct-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (AlBolone):
> I actually don't understand customers eigher (in this case Genesi) why don't
> realize that. Their brand looking like someone elses should ring their
> alarms. Or are they just fooled by the "nice liquid looking" afterall?

Alex, please note that there are no "liquid" elements all. No parts of www.pegasosppc.com, www.morphos.net or www.genesi.lu look anything like "glass" which is undoubtedly THE most important element of Apple's famous "Aqua" (= water -> "liquid") look. It is this specific element that gets copied all the time and was inspiration for many websites, icon sets, desktop themes, etc., yet NONE of the Genesi websites use it.

Funny, isn't it?

Now, with all Genesi websites lacking any "liquid"/"Aqua" parts, what is left?

Both companies use a white background for their websites which all have a navigation bar at the top and are optimized for a screen width of 800x600 (just like DELL.com, IBM.com and many other websites).

Apple's website uses two lines of tabs at the top. The upper one has about twice the size of the other and there are no graphical symbols whatsoever. Genesi's websites, on the other hand, have only a single navigation bar and include small icons for each site category. (Except for the MDC website which displays upto 3 navigation bars at the top and is also text-only.)

Moreover, Genesi's websites strictly use white and blue for all navigation buttons. On Apple.com, however, you will find colours such as green, violet or even yellow on various buttons. Apple often uses round edges for photos, Genesi does not but makes use of soft shadows. Additionally, Genesi has plenty of gradients on its websites whereas Apple prefers a plain flat-looking grey for various things. And the list goes on and on... and on... and on... (Just think about the different page layout schemes, etc.)


Do both companies' websites make heavy use of white? Yes. Does this make them look similar at a first glance? Indeed. But everyone who takes a look for more than 2 seconds, should see the difference between www.pegasosppc.com and www.apple.com quite easily.


> Copying a design is one thing. But copying a corporate design for your own
> corporate design does basically the exact opposite of what corporate design
> should do: making your brand UNIQUE.

Let us compare the logos of a few major technology companies found on their websites as top banners:


http://www.microsoft.com/homepage/gif/bnr-microsoft.gif
---> blue background, white letters...

http://di.dell.com/images/global/masthead/masthead_dell3.gif
---> blue background, white letters...

http://www.ibm.com/i/v11/m/en/lanim.gif
---> blue background, white letters...

http://www.motorola.com/images/global/motologo_global.gif
---> blue background, white letters...


So, and now let's take a look at the following two logos:

http://images.genesi.lu/_menu/genesilogo.png
---> white background, blue letters...

http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/d03c42f22f2820/www.apple.com/server/images/nav_01.gif
---> white background, black letters...


QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDVM. (I am quite aware of the fact that Corporate Design represents more than just company logos/top banners on websites. But then again, this is exactly what we are discussing here... Colour schemes of websites.)
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Posted by André Siegel on 03-Oct-2003 17:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (gary_c):
Thanks, gary. Exactly my point.
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Posted by Anonymous on 03-Oct-2003 19:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (André Siegel):
QED indeed. But samface read some confused AC comments on Slashduh about pegasosppc.com being an apple.com ripoff, so now that's firmly rooted in his mind as part of the Evil Genesi Conspiracy to Produce And Sell Stuff (GASP!).

My complaint would be a slight lack of content, but then I'm not part of the Blue Troll Conspiracy (owning/using Pegasos/MorphOS), so I dunno what's available for registered developers. The design is excellent, and for fugg's sake, it's only been online for a day.
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Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 03-Oct-2003 21:04 GMT
Good times for webduhsigners still...
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Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 03-Oct-2003 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Neko):
>It's a nice layout, nice graphical style, and it hints at some of the
> technical aspects and capabilities of our products :)

Indeed what I suspect - ignorance of standards and cross-platform compatibility.
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Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 03-Oct-2003 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (samface):
Well, samface, that site blows too.
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Posted by strobe on 04-Oct-2003 01:08 GMT
Wow, real constructive criticism guys. I'm sure the web site is going to look a WHOLE lot better after reading these comments.

/sarcasm
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