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Posted on 01-Nov-2003 18:05 GMT by Targhan181 comments
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For our Italian friends there is now Pegasos-Italia! http://www.pegasos-italia.com
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 1 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 01-Nov-2003 17:21 GMT
Welcome Pegasos-Italia!

Good job Michele.

As Michelangelo would have said, "a man [web designs] with his brains and not with his hands."

:-)

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 2 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bibop on 01-Nov-2003 17:22 GMT
why talk of pegasos on Amiga's site?
There are many another site...beos,solaris...
Thank for your information..
but i think that there are another site...

bye
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 3 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Miky060 on 01-Nov-2003 17:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (bbrv):
It has been a long and hard work (my first web site! :-)), but now it's so nice to see everything ready and starting up! I hope to be usefull to Italian community and to see this machine spreading in all the nation.
Long life to Pegasos!

Spero tutti gli utenti attuali e futuri del Pegasos in Italia saranno contenti di questa iniziativa. Spero con tutto il cuore di poter esser di aiuto alla nostra comunità con questo portale e di facilitare la diffusione di questa splendida macchina nel nostro paese!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 4 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 01-Nov-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
Hi bibop, we guess you missed these pictures:

http://www.pegasosppc.com/images.php?f=image&id=434

and...

http://www.pegasosppc.com/images.php?f=image&id=438

This is the AmigaToo!

;-)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 5 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Targhan on 01-Nov-2003 17:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
Kind Sir, the reason the Pegasos is listed here, on an Amiga site is very simple. The Pegasos is *the* natural upgrade path for the Amiga community. Regardless of names, name-calling, or wishful thinking. In fact, I would highly suggest visiting someplace or someone with a Pegasos, for the experience is far more convincing than any words.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 6 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 01-Nov-2003 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
Ah - a timewarp post!

Meantime, in the present, and wishes for the future: Good work Mikey060! Keep it going and keep the faith!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 7 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 01-Nov-2003 18:04 GMT
Go Miky go!

Hoorraaaaaaaay!

Or Peggy Or Amiga One, at least we can see some real stuff going!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 8 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 01-Nov-2003 18:04 GMT
Go Miky go!

Hoorraaaaaaaay!

Or Peggy Or Amiga One, at least we can see some real stuff going!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 9 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 01-Nov-2003 18:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (greenboy):
Oops, sorry for the typo, Miky060. Don't want to be saying 'Miky" when I mean 'Miky' . . .
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 10 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 01-Nov-2003 18:07 GMT
Wow, I clicked once and it pick up my message twice...

How strange...
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 11 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Miky060 on 01-Nov-2003 18:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
Hi bibop,
in this moment I think the most similar thing to an Amiga is a Pegasos with MorphOS installed. If you think it's sad to not have "Amiga" logo on Pegasos case go and wait for other solutions. I already find my Amiga successor machine and personally don't care about names, I see at facts.
Moreover following your reasoning also AmigaDE related stuff should be not mentined on Amiga sites, cause this OS has nothing to do with AmigaOS. Isn'it?

However please, let's stop all this ostility in our community, if someone is not interested in something can easily not read news about it, even if it's so sad to know that other old amigans like me judge something without to have ever tryed it, but only because they don't like its 'name'..

Nel momento in cui vorrai provare un Pegasos in azione, sarò prontissimo a mostrartelo, ma per piacere finiamola con queste stupide guerre di religione. Gente finitela di attaccarvi ai 'nomi' e cercate di essere più lucidi nelle vostre scelte. Quì nessuno obliga nessuno a comprar qualcosa, l'unica cosa triste è vedere altri amighisti di vecchia data (almeno spero lo siano..) scartare e criticare qualcosa senza neanche conoscerla veramente, spinti da pregiudizi e stupido fanatismo. Lasciate la politica a quei coglioni che sono a Montecitorio, nell'informatica queste cose non devono esistere. Io ho fatto la mia scelta in modo lucido ed ho trovato sin da subito nel Pegasos-MorphOS la naturale evoluzione di AmigaOS, se qualcuno non ha voglia neanche di accertarsi se questo sia vero o no, attaccandosi a nomi o marchi è libero di farlo. Ma almeno non facciamo la guerra dei poveri mordendoci la coda a vicenda, ormai siamo rimasti davvero in pochi. La nostra comunità ne ha viste davvero tante e non ha bisogno di essere danneggiata ulteriormente.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 12 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Darren Eveland on 01-Nov-2003 18:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Targhan):
Hi Targhan, how can you honestly say that when OS4 is in the pipeline?

I agree, MorphOS is a very nice Amiga-like, OS 3.x Amiga-compatible operating system, but I would disagree that it is the "natural" upgrade path.

It is simply one option of many possible options.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 13 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 01-Nov-2003 18:40 GMT
Hi,
While the cracked boingball on the t-shirt was OK I don't think it is on the website.
Using a cracked Amiga logo is unethical and may violate a trademark.
The Pegasos can stand on its own merit without going after Amiga.
As I don't speak Italian I don't know how much official this site is but IMHO it should not be assimiled as an official Italian Genesi site until such representations are removed.

My 2 cents.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 14 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 01-Nov-2003 18:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
ANN is not "Amiga's site". ANN is not an Amiga(tm) site. ANN is a site that caters for what used to be known as the "Amiga community", along with almost everything that was built (is being built) around it, on top of it, or created by (former) members of it.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 15 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 01-Nov-2003 19:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Christophe Decanini):
Question is, who own's the Amiga trademark? Last think I saw, it was up to the US Federal Government since Genesi and Amiga Inc were both trying to get it after Amiga Inc released ownership of it.

Dammy
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 16 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Targhan on 01-Nov-2003 19:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Darren Eveland):
@Darren

I suppose I should explain. Until such time that OS4 is actually available to the public, it is not an upgrade path. Now, that I had to say that, I should explain. At one time, many moons ago, I worked for AntiGravity. I saw the BoXeR. Given another two month, I think they might have pulled it off. It was in the pipeline, but as you see there is no BoXeR now. Another good analogy is Amithlon, which actually did make it to market. I even bought a copy. I like Amithlon, but the legal turmoil doomed the system. In fact, I would say that the legal turmoil started about the time that Amithlon was going to turn the corner. What would happen if Hyperion should go bankrupt? What if the Friedens have an automobile accident? As you see, until an item gets into the market, it is not an upgrade path. OS4 can be in the pipeline, but until it comes OUT of the pipeline, it is not an upgrade path at all.

I just know from experience that until it's available, it isn't an option. OS4 can go on tour, but the BoXeR was on tour as well. OS4 can be in beta-testing, but so was WebCruiser (an Amiga webbrowser from years back). Does anyone honestly believe that the people (different people, different projects) behind those projects *wanted* to not see those products hit the market? How can I, especially after my experience with something that came close, honestly consider something an alternative until it's done?

With the above said, I do not wish any ill will upon the OS4 team, Hyperion, or even Eyetech. I am just not going to call something an option until it *is* an option.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 17 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 01-Nov-2003 19:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (dammy):
Your attention lapsed, about a month back, Amiga Inc retained it. In fact I
remember you commenting on it, so you are probably just suppressing bad memories.

@Targhan

That preaching might work on the converted, it just looks innappropriate and further
alienates the rest of us.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 18 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 01-Nov-2003 19:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (bbrv):
Don't you think those images are incredibly childish and broadcast a
rather poor image of your company?

Crass.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 19 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 01-Nov-2003 19:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (DaveP):
Well, send us a picture of you in your Club Amiga T-shirt, and maybe we'll see how good you look in it?

NARF!

=Neko=
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 20 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 01-Nov-2003 19:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bibop):
... you are a so nice person ...

ps
Me Decanini, Mr kemps, irony is also a censorable post?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 21 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 01-Nov-2003 19:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (DaveP):
Oh how jelous ...
We know that Aos4 and Amigaone can cause so much sofference in you DaveP, biut please.
This is simply a post to konw that there is a new Mos site.
Is possible to not flame also in this post?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 22 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 01-Nov-2003 19:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Neko):
Such a witty comeback, I feel so crushed.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 23 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Targhan on 01-Nov-2003 19:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (DaveP):
@DaveP

Thank you for your insight, but keep in mind people, including myself, do tire of those kinds of questions. It just gets old.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 24 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 01-Nov-2003 19:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Christophe Decanini):
Hi Christophe, you know we think alot of you. DaveP, we think highly of you too, but here we have to disagree with you both.

Michele's use of the altered boing ball is not unethical, nor is a MorphOS butterfly being zapped in a microwave or snagged in an Amiga net. There is no trademark violation. It is not the trademark and it is on a site in Italy. Go try to fix that in a legal process...

Let's make something clear: the Pegasos has and does stand on its own merit. Michele is a Reseller and not part of Genesi corporately. We have no problem with his site, his "crass" t-shirt, or his occasional extraordinary enthusiasm. It is passions like his that kept this community alive for years and the reason why we have had a chance to make something out of it today.

And, while we are at it: we wish the best to OS4. They have a long way to go, BUT we really hope they get there. We know how hard it is to do what they are doing. If we could ever work through our differences we could actually like to help them. In fact, many say the Peagsos and MorphOS are actually helping them now because they have increased the level of activity around here. It all runs in the the same with the CPU family. Frankly, people like Michele and you are a big part of the reason there still IS a community. Christophe, you and Adam are of the same mold. Your French. DaveP your British. He is Italian. Cultural differences aside -- it is all the same community. When Hyperion are standing alone -- and they will be -- we will be right there if the are looking for support because they belong here too. We said that at AmiWest and we say it again now.

What to do now? Here are the facts: Amiga Inc. screwed this all up. Bill McEwen shot his mouth off too many times, broke too many promises and called people down with nothing to back it up. There is no judgment there. Finally, he picked a fight with the wrong people. Blindly, the ignorant took this word as gospel and this lead to more problems. Sure there were the WarpUp and PowerUp wars before and MorphOS has slogged its way for years through illegitimate criticisms. Here is another fact: MorphOS is becoming something very tangible and very successful. Wait to see what happens next! Seen any other non-unix OS get IBM validation lately? There are far too many talented people working on the advancement of the platform and it is going some where. If OS4 runs on the Pegasos we will apply for IBM validation for them too! As we said a year ago, and two years ago -- "let us see what happens."

The bottom line: if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. It easy to be nice to nice people, It is hard to be nice to jerks. We are all human. Often emotion rides amuck. Here on these forums tensions have run high. From our perspective, we ask no quarter and give no quarter. Bring the jerks on. They are the problem on these forums. The intellectually challenged anonymous whimps who hide behind their computers and cast stones. They don't do anything to contribute and they certainly do not buy computers. Often if they were exposed they would be ashamed and their childish behavior would cease. It is called accountability. We need some, but lets have some fun. We like Michele's t-shirt!

Back to the real world: how many AmigaOnes and Pegasos machines do you really think are out there? FACT: maybe 1000! That is all! There is alot of talk in this community and on these forums. That will not restore any real commercial credibility around here. We all need to get to work if we ever hope to reach a five digit number or more...

The *real* community is busy, getting applications ported, launching websites, breaking into new projects. It would be great if these forums could be constructive and collaborative. We like Michele's enthusiasm -- even if it has been turned on us from time to time.

The Pegasos intends to be an inclusive platform, NOT an exclusive on.

Morph is more than an OS -- it is a concept!

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 25 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 01-Nov-2003 19:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (DaveP):
@DaveP

"Your attention lapsed, about a month back, Amiga Inc retained it. In fact I
remember you commenting on it, so you are probably just suppressing bad memories. "

I KNOW I mentioned it, I checked the trademark website and even posted some comments on it. Please do not confuse myself and Dammy. ;)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 26 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 01-Nov-2003 20:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (bbrv):
@bbrv

> Morph is more than an OS -- it is a concept!

Soundbyte, since you refuse to explain the "concept". Any idiot can claim he has an idea which is a "concept", but they're only worth listening to if they have the eloquence to make others understand what the concept stands for. MorphOS is a lightweight, somewhat immature operating system. Nothing more.

Repeating that MorphOS is a concept won't make it so. Sorry.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 27 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 01-Nov-2003 20:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Bill Hoggett):
News Flash for Bill Hoggett:

If you don't like it don't buy it!

Bill, we do not need you!

:-)

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 28 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Genesi Employee with a Stake on 01-Nov-2003 20:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Targhan):
"the reason the Pegasos is listed here, on an Amiga site is very simple. The Pegasos is *the* natural upgrade path for the Amiga community."

We all know why you *want* people to believe this but it is, in fact, not reality. The "natural" and authentic upgrade for the Amiga community is AmigaOS4 and beyond, which is not a Genesi product. When you have AmigaOS4 running on the Pegasos, then you can talk to Amiga users about "natural upgrade paths".
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 29 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 01-Nov-2003 20:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Genesi Employee with a Stake):
AmigaOS 4 does not exist as a commercial product. It is still vapor, like the BoXeR. Until it ships, it has an uncertain future.

That means that, at this point of time there is 1 and only 1 upgrade path that exists and is shipping: The Pegasos with MorphOS.

When and if Hyperion can get OS4 out the door, the situation will change. But that is a very big IF for any project in this community.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 30 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by WeDontNeedBuck on 01-Nov-2003 20:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (bbrv):
"Bill, we do not need you!"

Right back at you, "Bill" The true Amiga community does not need you and your crass worshippers, like Eva who is too illiterate to come up with even a properly formed English insult.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 31 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Unauthorized on 01-Nov-2003 20:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Nate Downes):
"That means that, at this point of time there is 1 and only 1 upgrade path that exists and is shipping: The Pegasos with MorphOS."

When Amiga or Hyperion, who are developing the officially sanctioned natural upgrade to AmigaOS, email us users and tell us that Genesi/Pegasos has attained, through proper, legal channels, the right to bundle AmigaOS4 as an option to the Pegasos, that is when I will see your opinion as fact and legitimate. Currently, MorphOS is a rip-off clone of AmigaOS, much like Lindows is to Windows, whether we all like it or not.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 32 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 01-Nov-2003 20:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Unauthorized):
Yay Lindows! ;  }
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 33 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 01-Nov-2003 21:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Unauthorized):
>Currently, MorphOS is a rip-off clone of AmigaOS

And a Ferrari F355 is a rip-off of a Model T Ford, but I know which one I'd rather have.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 34 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 01-Nov-2003 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Unauthorized):
Well, my opinion is that the only PowerPC'd AmigaOS compatible OS out there is MorphOS....

I don't see anything else available. Can you please point me to one that is available for public use today?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 35 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2003 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Genesi Employee with a Stake):
"The "natural" and authentic upgrade for the Amiga community is AmigaOS4"

Then kindly show me where I can buy AmigaOS4 *NOW*, please?

What's that? You can't because it is not available?
Interesting... (wasn't it on schedule and rockin for 2 years ago this month?)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 36 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2003 21:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (bbrv):
Hey It's Billy-lying-boy again.

Now Bill what's the concept then?

You make up lies about competitors or northbridges and then try to sue someone to death in orther to get the Trademark?

Did you already registered the word "@sshole"?
It suits your concept.

But hey, "we thought that was old news" (tm)

Now Bill do you have another lie to share with us? today
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 37 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2003 21:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (WeDontNeedBuck):
Amen brother.
Let him bugger some linux people...
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 38 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 01-Nov-2003 23:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Anonymous):
Well, thought we would check back in a couple hours to check the pulse and it is still about the same. Maybe one or two anonymous whiners thinking that name calling is going to save the cult. Good luck! The last "Amiga" was an A1200 built by Escom. Go away! At least Bill Hoggett has the guts to let everyone know his opinion *and* stand behind it. Do you feel emasculated? You should.

This was a thread about a new website, in Italian, about the Pegasos, MorphOS, and LinuxPPC. If you are not interested just stay away. In the meanwhile, as long as you brought it up, there is still no Mai without April. Is there? Something change? Guess not, huh?

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 39 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 01-Nov-2003 23:55 GMT
I'd like to wish you goodluck for your website, Michele!

You know what is my opinion regarding Pegasos/Amiga,
but I think that it's a very good thing that there is still
someone who decide to start a *new* site about Amiga
compatible systems (is this politically correct enough
for die hard fans of one or the other side?) in 2003!

It's people like you who keep alive interests in Amiga
community, so again good luck :)

Congratulations also for the design: a clean and
professional looking site. Really a good work.

Hope to hear you on IRC soon.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 40 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 02-Nov-2003 00:04 GMT
I can't decide is cracked boing ball good or not. I find it slightly offensive but those small butterflies flying away from a boing ball is so true.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 41 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Cookie monster on 02-Nov-2003 01:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
They keep telling me that it tastes like butter, but alas it's just margarine....
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 42 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 01:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (bbrv):
@bbrv

I can accept you don't need me. I can also see you don't need customers. Are you relying on finding enough worshipful sycophants who will buy into your "concept" without being told what you're selling them to make money for you?

What is damn hard to explain? It's a simple question: WHAT IS THIS CONCEPT OF YOURS?

You're a marketing person. You have a whole army of promoters in your ranks. Can't one of you explain in plain comprehensive English what this concept of yours stands for and why it offers a revolutionary solution compared to everything else on the market?

Should I just assume that every time I ask the question you will laugh and run away?

Or do you only have time for the Blue Cheerleader brigade?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 43 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 01:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Cookie monster):
I'm beginning to think that the bar of gold they keep flashing about is nothing more than a lump of gilded lead.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 44 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 01:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Cookie monster):
Read the label!

Can you see 680x0? No?

If not, it is not "Amiga" ...

The Pegasos is not and neither is anything else.

OK, can we get on with the rest of life now?

Veni, vidi....vici!

Good work Michele!

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 45 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 01:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (bbrv):
P.S. Bill, read harder!
Then, you will understand the concept grasshopper.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 46 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 02-Nov-2003 02:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Nate Downes):
>AmigaOS 4 does not exist as a commercial product. It is still vapor, like the BoXeR. Until it ships, it has an uncertain future.
>
>That means that, at this point of time there is 1 and only 1 upgrade path that exists and is shipping: The Pegasos with MorphOS.

Actually that's not quite true... Or more like, it isn't the "full truth"

-UAE exists, and is available for free download (though you need to grab rom images from your old Amiga before putting it to rest in the closet)
-Amiga Forever exists, and you can buy it
-AROS exists, and is freely available
-Amithlon exists, is on sale, but "legal status" might be a bit questionable (Of course, using it shouldn't be illegal...)
-Upgrading classic Amiga (For example adding Prometheus PCI bus)

So, MorphOS isn't only existing upgrade path, and never will be... And neither will AmigaOS 4
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 47 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 02:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (bbrv):
If someone has to read harder, it is usually not something wrong with the reader but with the message...
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 48 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 03:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (bbrv):
no, it's not, dream on!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 49 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 03:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (bbrv):
You might not need him but that doesn't mean he's wrong. Buring your head in the sand is not going to make reality go away.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 50 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 03:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
>The last "Amiga" was an A1200 built by Escom.

ROTFL!!
what a sad and melodrammatic character you are. You claim that your computer is an Amiga or it's evolution, but then you want people to believe that the AmigaOne is not. For what I'm concerned, since AmigaOS4, the REAL AmigaOS, is running on AmigaOne, the last Amiga is an AmigaOne.

>Go away!

Oh wait, are you trying to tell us that you bought this website? I think there's plenty of people who want you to go away. Why don't you do just that?
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