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[News] More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configurationANN.lu
Posted on 06-Dec-2003 21:42 GMT by Raffaele137 comments
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Alan Redhouse speaks on amigaworld.net about the daughterboards of the riser card slot and the 256MB of onboard RAM on the new Micro AmigaOne... The post of Alan was noticed by readers and another thread of comments about it started.
You can find it again on amigaworld.net

Enjoy it.

Ciao,

Raffaele
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 1 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 00:08 GMT
how about the news appearing here rather than trying to drum up traffic for elsewhere?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 2 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 07-Dec-2003 00:12 GMT
First question: Why does Alan only post to Amigaworld.net and not any of the other website, including PR (real news releases) on Amiga.com ?

Speaking of amiga.com, I would like to know why the website is never updated? Also, why does no one else notice this?

By the way, after some searching on amiga.com for amigaone, it provides you with a link to: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/ (last updated Nov 1 2002, not exactly up to date information there either).
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 3 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Logico on 07-Dec-2003 00:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Darth_X):
Why aren't you grateful that Alan participates in discussions over at www.amigaworld.net ? Given how disrespectful and plain nasty people at certain sites allow themselves to be, I think it is amazing that people such as Alan participates in open forums at all.

If you have a problem with that, then go buy yourself a Dell PC or something and stop making a fool out of yourself with comments such as yours.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 4 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 07-Dec-2003 02:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Logico):
Why aren't you grateful that Alan participates in discussions over at www.amigaworld.net ? Given how disrespectful and plain nasty people at certain sites allow themselves to be, I think it is amazing that people such as Alan participates in open forums at all.


I find the most disrespectful and plain nasty people to be the anonymous posters on ann.lu who are against the people who are working to make this market productive.

About the anonymous posters on ann.lu, I never saw such a group of people working hard to make amiga a failure! Its crazy!!!!!!!

(Are you one of the disrespectful and nasty people or are you working to make this market sucessful?)

For amiga.com website, what excuse is there for not updating this?



If you have a problem with that, then go buy yourself a Dell PC or something and stop making a fool out of yourself with comments such as yours.


I am not making a fool of myself. Could it be that you do NOT want to see the Amiga Inc website updated with accurate information? Could it be that you do not want Amiga to be sucessful?

Or does it matter to you at all? ;)

Dell? Its supposed to be Gateway silly! :P
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 5 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 07-Dec-2003 02:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Darth_X):
By the way,what's the Swedish connection?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 6 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 05:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Logico):
>I think it is amazing that people such as Alan participates in open forums at all.

What exactly is "people such as Alan"? Dealers? Saints? People who sell 1999-technology mainboards for 1200 US$?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 7 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 07:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
I guess you would be one of those anonymous people working hard to make the new amiga a failure :)

(me? I'm just here to observe. Nothing I see from either side excites me yet, but I am keeping an open mind...)
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 8 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 07:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
> I guess you would be one of those anonymous people working hard to make the new amiga a failure :)

Nonsense, I have just critisized an extremely stupid comment above: it is not "amazing" that Alan participates in form of attacking a competitive product on AW (a forum which he co-finances), it is annoying. He's not a saint, he's a sinner who has problems with telling the straigh truth every now and then. As to working hard to make the new Amiga a failure, I actually like one of the new Amigas enough to use it. With respect to the other one, I'll make my judgement when AOS4 is released and reviewed. I might very well like it, good developers are working on it. However, I already know for sure that I do not like the collaboration between Eyetech and Hyperion and Amiga Inc. That smells of working into each others pockets by selling overpriced hardware and stiffling competition. I think Eyetech already has gained too much influence to be healthy for the platform.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 9 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 07-Dec-2003 07:59 GMT
Atheist is right on with his 256Megs ain't enough comment. What about those who would like to do Video Editing with their AmigaOnes? 256megs ain't enough. It should be boosted to at least 512 Megs standard unless you're ready for some diskswapping.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 10 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 07-Dec-2003 08:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Ronald):
It's the Micro board. So it's supposed to be more limited and cheaper than full sized model. If it's too restricted to your use you'll purchase real thing.. Simple?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 11 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Fredrik on 07-Dec-2003 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Darth_X):
>First question: Why does Alan only post to Amigaworld.net and not any
>of the other website, including PR (real news releases) on Amiga.com ?

Why don't you ask Alan instead???????

>Speaking of amiga.com, I would like to know why the website is never
>updated?

Why not asking Amiga inc or Ray A AKey????????

> Also, why does no one else notice this?

It's been noticed!!! But the web site isn't that important right now. Other things (AOs4.0 and the survival of Amiga Inc) are much more imortant than updating the website!!!!!
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 12 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 07-Dec-2003 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Darth_X):
> First question: Why does Alan only post to Amigaworld.net and not any of the
> other website, including PR (real news releases) on Amiga.com ?

This is one of many mysterious ways in which the "Amiga Inc Trio" behaves.

The Amiga Community is small as it is, so one should think that it would make the most sense to spread any news wherever it's possible, to as many people as possible, right?

But I guess that they either want no-one to know about their products except the very small fraction of the community that hangs out "over there", or they think it's more important to take part in the efforts to kill off the old time community sites and move people "over there" than it is to promote their products on a broader scale. IMO, the latter shines through. It's their problem really, and *it is* a problem, for them, the good old trio.

Well, I guess one should be glad that they at least are interested in making their news available to at least a very limited public, another hilarious way they use is to start clubs and charge money to let people read news and articles.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 13 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 07-Dec-2003 10:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (takemehomegrandma):
And then people complain at them making premature announcements and breaking promises... Please, you people are not beeing very reasonable here. Let them announce their products in their own time and when it's ready. Besides, there's no point in listening to people who complain no matter what they do anyway. :-/
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 07-Dec-2003 10:15 GMT
BTW, I don't really want to cause more noise by posting another one in the endless row of those "smart advices" to the moderators, but IMO empty posts like this one (containing *nothing* but a link to another site) is not "News", it's "Web".
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 15 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 07-Dec-2003 10:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (JoannaK):
Give up. People just WILL NOT understand that the MicroA1 is NOT aimed at me, you and them.

This is a TINY board for industrial and embedded uses, people. The fact that you guys find the not-released prices so attractive doesn't mean you get a say in the design process.

Eyetechs industrial customers do, however. And they have always had a lot of those.

To those interested in the MicroA1:
If the onboard memory isn't enough, use the SO-DIMM slot.

If SO-DIMM doesn't suit you, the GPU is too slow, there's not enough PCI slots AND SO ON, AD NAUSEAM:
BUY SOMETHING ELSE, because the MicroA1 is DESIGNED FOR SIZE, not to keep you happy. It's not going to be the #1 gaming machine of the century, and this doesn't keep Alan awake at night, BECAUSE IT WASN'T MEANT TO EITHER. :-)

To everyone here:
It IS impressive that Alan takes the time off to discuss with people on web forums, considering how much crap he has to wade through to find anything relevant to discuss. The fact that amigaworld.net is supporting Eyetech with webspace for the amigaone forums makes it a bit more plausible for him to appear there than elsewhere. But I think most people who try to run a business shouldn't spend all day on online forums. Big hint to BBRV, there :-)
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 16 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 07-Dec-2003 10:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (JoannaK):
It's the Micro board. So it's supposed to be more limited and cheaper than full sized model. If it's too restricted to your use you'll purchase real thing.. Simple?

Since it's not a done deal, I hope Eyetech forgets soldering RAM onto the mobo and let's the user choose how much RAM they want. Mini-ITX mobos aren't custom jobs. They are a standard and should be followed. I've seen the specs of a P4 Mini-ITX mobo and it wasn't too limited. The newer ones even go up to 1 gig RAM. Just in case you didn't know, Operating systems generally perform better with more RAM (watching DiVX and other stuff). They tend to make less trips to the swapfile.

Btw an AmigaOne Lite is a real thing too. A computer is a computer. ;)

Now if I could get a case like this Hush Technologies Silent Mini-ITX PC for my AmigaOne Lite. Would go great on a shelf under the TV. Then I'd just need a AmigaOS4 supported wireless keyboard and mouse! Hehehe
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 17 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 07-Dec-2003 10:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Ronald):
If you want to be doing video editing and all that stuff, you'd buy a proper full sized system, not a mini itx based system.

Actually, I'd buy a Mac because the software is so good.

The MicroA1 (worst name ever) will have its primary use in embedded applications that Eyetech has a lot of interest in. Hence it is very integrated. It will be used to replace all those old A1200 systems in POS and other systems.

And it will also be made available to people who want it. It is a nice looking board, not exactly hi-tech by modern standards but it isn't anything to sniff at.

And as for Alan posting here, all he'd get would be bitched at by the Genesi trolls who seem to think that the One True Path is one laid down by Bill Buck. There would be nothing to gain. Anyway, as has happened, the news got around the other sites, so he only needed to post it in one place. Given that he must be quite busy, I'd imagine he doesn't have the time to read all the forums anyway.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 18 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 07-Dec-2003 10:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (samface):
> And then people complain at them making premature announcements and breaking
> promises...

There will allways be people that becomes disappointed when an announced product doesn't show up at the dealers webshops at the announced time. How is this an issue? How is this new? This is as natural as a stone falls downwards if you drop it. It also happened to the Pegasos 2 BTW. But if you are so soft skinned that you simply can not take complaints in a forum, then you should definitely find yourself another trade than being an entrepreneur IMO.

But how is *disappointed potential customers* relevant to the issue?

> Please, you people are not beeing very reasonable here. Let them announce
> their products in their own time and when it's ready.

But what does *time* has to do with this issue?

> Besides, there's no point in listening to people who complain no matter what
> they do anyway. :-/

In some places people are free to express their opinions, and you are free to listen to whoever you want to to make up your own mind, and not only to those people approved by samface (or some jack the ripper cut throat moderators).

But what does *complaining people* has to do with this issue anyway?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 19 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 07-Dec-2003 10:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Ronald):
The motherboard has both on-board memory, AND a SO-DIMM slot where you can add more.

The 256MB on board may add more cost up front, but probably a lot less than the cost of a 256MB SO-DIMM, and you still get the option of adding more anyway.

Also, AmigaOS is not Windows XP yet, it will run happily on a computer with far few resources.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 20 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 10:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Graham_nli):
alan has repeatedly made it obvious that he doesn't know very much about hardware other than amigas. hasn't he simply misunderstood the presence of onboard vram for the onboard radeon? maybe i'm confused by this ever changing 'amigaone' relabeling, but he's talking about the teron mini right?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 21 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 10:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Olegil):
@ Olegil

A hint: The customers are EVERYTHING. The developer community IS EVERYTHING. If you don't care to find the time to communicate and creating good relationships with them, then you could as well just drop any product efforts you are working on. The community is invaluable, if you don't have the community with you (or worse: if you ALIANATES the community), then you are loosing your foundation. Developers and customers comes first, any product comes second, because it will not succeed without the first.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 22 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Ronald):
> Since it's not a done deal, I hope Eyetech forgets soldering RAM onto the
> mobo and let's the user choose how much RAM they want.

Like Eyetech has something to do with that! The guy at this picture is probably the one who makes such decisions:

http://www.inguard.com/release/HYT-016-D.htm

(BTW, is the Eyetech logo to be seen on that PPT slide?)
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 23 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (JoannaK):
*sigh*

Joanna I think you know it's not about restricting it so people will buy the XE version. Alan has stated many times that the Lite is for the embedded market - and 256mb is likely to be enough there. It also means people who buy the boards don't have to supply their own ram/gfx/sound cards as it is all ready to go.

Nobody said you can't expand it - Alan also said there will be a 3-pci slot riser if people want it (IIRC).

Cheers,
Ian
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 24 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 07-Dec-2003 12:12 GMT
Obviously people aren't interested in news connected with Amiga anymore, they rather discuss these colateral things, whether they should be treated as news or not if they only has a link... (and guess where it's from) now blame AW because they have HF and Alan speaking over there, giving meaningful informations about AOS4 and AmigaOne, burn 'em!
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 25 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 07-Dec-2003 12:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (takemehomegrandma):
Time of availability, features and price, they're ALL issues that people will consider to be "broken promises" if announced prematurely. AGAIN, let them announce the amount of details about their upcoming product to the extent they feel is reasonable to announce at this time and let them tell us about the rest when the time is right, ok?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 26 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 07-Dec-2003 12:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Olegil):
"The fact that amigaworld.net is supporting Eyetech with webspace for the amigaone forums makes it a bit more plausible for him to appear there than elsewhere." If you prefer isolating "AmigaWorld" from the other Amiga world, why not... Maybe this maximizes AWN user base but soon no one outside AWN knows about A1/OS4.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 27 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 12:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (itix):
@Itix

a) There's nothing stopping people visitng "that site".

b) People can link to "that site" from articles like this one.

:-)

Ian
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 28 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 07-Dec-2003 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (IanS):
I just wish people could write short summary about news... not just news that there are new news... Even worse; AWN news doesnt summarize what is said, just quotes the original post.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 29 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 13:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (itix):
Indeed, but it appears somebody has just linked to a forum post on aw.net - there isn't any "news" as such.

Cheers,
Ian
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 30 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 13:43 GMT
But if one does not like the people there? What if one does not like the people behind the webplace? What if one does not like the (cultish) atmosphere? What if one does not want to support the behind the scenes mafia methods from the past?

Those who anseres YES to any of the above will miss any amiga inc related news, and you don't think that is a problem?

It would be SO EASY to resubmit any article to all the sites instead of just one and the only reason why this is not the case should be obvious to everyone!
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 31 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 13:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
>>But if one does not like the people there? What if one does not like the people behind the webplace? What if one does not like the (cultish) atmosphere? What if one does not want to support the behind the scenes mafia methods from the past?

Well if people really have that much of a problem visiting an amiga news/forum site I don't think it is the forum that has the problem...

Iam
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 32 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 07-Dec-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Olegil):
Thanks for the hint Olegil, but we would rather be successful.

R&B
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 33 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 07-Dec-2003 14:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
So you (as a potential, but not targetted, customer who might buy a board) is a lot more important than embedded/industrial customers who might buy thousands of boards several times every year?

Hmm, interesting logic.
This board ISN'T meant to be THE board for us normal users. It is too small for that, so it has too many limitations due to size/price being important in the targetted market.

So, if the limitations doesn't feel right to you for your next desktop system, don't buy one. Noone said you should. It's as simple as that. Securing sales in the thousand-range from industrial customers is a lot more important than any Anonymous developer/community member on ANN will ever hope to be.

And don't give me any crap about how you could be an industrial customer, because you wouldn't start the discussion at this level if you were really serious about buying a lot of boards.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 34 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 14:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (bbrv):
So that implies you aren't succesfull? ;)

"We would rather be succesfull" instead of "we are succesfull"

Cheers
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 35 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 07-Dec-2003 15:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Olegil):
"Give up. People just WILL NOT understand that the MicroA1 is NOT aimed at me, you and them."

Why not? Because it is small? People don't want small silent computers?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 36 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 07-Dec-2003 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (IanS):
Who are "the embedded market"?

Am I part of "the embedded market" when I want to replace my chunky old noisy computers with cute tiny ones that suck a heck lot less power?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 37 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 07-Dec-2003 15:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Olegil):
"It is too small for that, so it has too many limitations due to size/price being important in the targetted market."

Too small? It's a computer, not a penis! Smaller is better!

But you are suggesting that it will be pricey... too bad.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 38 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 07-Dec-2003 15:39 GMT
The AmigaOne Lite is aimed at Home Users.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 39 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by vortexau on 07-Dec-2003 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Ronald):
> The AmigaOne Lite is aimed at Home Users.
Ahhh! ONLY if that home user has a server farm, or a heap of embedded slave machines doing servile digital processing!

Spam? Is the Home User market, you are referring-to, home-based Spam distribution?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 40 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 07-Dec-2003 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (vortexau):
Ahhh! ONLY if that home user has a server farm, or a heap of embedded slave machines doing servile digital processing!

Spam? Is the Home User market, you are referring-to, home-based Spam distribution?


Nah, those server farms use Windows Server and most brands of UNIX. Not Amiga. ;)

I never knew that Shuttle PCs were meant for the server market only. Don't those people buying Mini-ITX based PCs for their living rooms look foolish right about now? I should send Falcon Northwest an email to tell'em that they should drop their hot selling FragBox PC line, right?
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 41 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 07-Dec-2003 18:49 GMT
"Why does Alan only post to Amigaworld.net and not any of the other website, including PR (real news releases) on Amiga.com ?"

Because AmigaWorld is the offcial AmigaOne news/infos portal.

256mb is enough for most uses, anyway it has a slot fo ram expansion. Dear Trools, please read before fudding. Thanks.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 42 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 20:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
> I have just critisized an extremely stupid comment above: it is not "amazing"
> that Alan participates in form of attacking a competitive product on AW (a
> forum which he co-finances), it is annoying.

1. Alan gave some info about their upcoming product. If you see that as an attack, so be it. I don't remember him even mentioning the Pegasos.
2. You mean like Genesi co-finances amiga.org? Yes, I find all the blue trolls who feel at home annoying too.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 43 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 20:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Ronald):
No you see, the MiniA1 is stupid right now because Genesi doesn't have something like it in their product line. They know that mini-ITX is pretty hot right now, and are stuck with their micro-ATX design because they've invested too much into it to just bin it, and a new motherboard design takes months. So in the meantime they just work up their mindless trolls with "little boards are lame", and as soon as they have their own mini-ITX, they will be cool once again (and they'll claim they were saying this all along too). It wouldn't be the first time they do something like this (the "ready for IBM" thing, the time they were laughing at the original A1 for being only AGPx1 when the Peg1 was AGPx2 (oh the irony!), the Peg1 is cool because it's micro-ATX instead of the clunky full-ATX Amiga1.5, etc etc etc).
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 44 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 20:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (samface):
The price has already been announced by Hyperion two months ago: around 300EUR
depending on CPU.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 45 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 21:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
>They know that mini-ITX is pretty hot right now, and are stuck with their micro-ATX design

I agree that mini-itx is pretty hot (with size-fascinated users and case modders) but I don't agree with the stuck part: micro-atx is IMHO by far the best mainboard format: it is reasonably small - you can get very small, nearly book-sized micro-atx case - but still has the flexibility of an average mainboard. With mini-itx, you are forced to make many painful compromises. I know, I had a mini-itx board for a while and it was very unpleasant after fascination with size ended, so it went the ebay route. I starts with lack of slots, components soldered to the board, lack of space next to the CPU (for a good passive heatsink), expensive cases, weak graphics core, small number of RAM slots, lack of connectors due to lack of space in the atx area (no DVI, second USB only as header, forced selection between digital audio or composite because both use the same chinch connector, no optical in/out etc). Sound and video quality wis sub-standard: due to the density of components, signal quality suffers a lot.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 46 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 07-Dec-2003 21:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
You must smoke some good stuff there. Most of negativeness towards MicroA1 was from AmigaWorld.net where some individuals thought it is too mini because it lacks AGP. Can't find thread for you right now but you should read it. This "256MB is not enough" comment came from AWN too.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 47 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Anonymous):
> If you see that as an attack, so be it. I don't remember him even mentioning the Pegasos.

If you don't see the attack in that post on AW, then you are positively blind. And of course Pegasos was not mentioned by name, he's not stupid and knows that Genesi could take him before a court if he did.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 48 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (ikir):
> 256mb is enough for most uses, anyway it has a slot for ram expansion

It's certainly not enough for most uses. Don't expect that a PPC OS with JIT can get away with 512KB like AmigaOS3: MorphOS and JIT eat megabytes like cookies, AOS4 should be in same ballbark (I guess). 64MB RAM used for the OS alone would not surprise me at all (ie. for OS, disk cache and JIT). Somebody with an AOS4 beta please comment. If you do development, you want a cached gcc. If you do video, you want many frames chached. I don't think that you can get serious work done with 256 MB.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 49 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 07-Dec-2003 21:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
Don't expect that a PPC OS with JIT can get away with 512KB like AmigaOS3: MorphOS and JIT eat megabytes like cookies, AOS4 should be in same ballbark (I guess). Why would JIT need megabytes of RAM? Here Trance is using less than 3MB for translated code.
More infos on the Micro A-One and its base configuration : Comment 50 of 137ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Dec-2003 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (itix):
You seem to believe that blue trolls somehow don't post at AWN. Don't believe all the censorship crap, just because it's at AWN doesn't mean it isnt' blue troll droppings.
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