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[News] New Years greetings from HyperionANN.lu
Posted on 25-Dec-2003 22:34 GMT by Anonymous36 comments
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From http://www.amiga.com/news/ Hyperion Entertainment and the OS 4.0 development team are pleased to announce that OS4 development has now sufficiently advanced for a comprehensive Developer Pre-release of Amiga OS 4.0 to be distributed to all current AmigaOne owners shortly after the New Year.

In view of the fact that quite a few of you reminded us that you do not have broadband internet access, the original idea to offer an initial version of OS 4.0 for download was abandoned in favor of an "easy to install", self-contained distribution on CD.

Whilst this will obviously entail more cost to Hyperion and require more time for duplication and distribution, the upside is that we will be able to provide developers with everything they need to start developing for OS 4.0.

The developer material will include sample source-code, an initial version of the AmigaOS 4.0 SDK as well as native OS 4.0 compilers (GCC 2.95.3, GCC 3.4 and VBCC) and cross-compilers for various platforms (Linux x86/PCC, Mac OS X etc.).

The Developer Pre-release will require an upgrade of the AmigaOne firmware which was bumped from U-Boot 0.1.1 to U-Boot 1.0 and which is currently undergoing final testing.

Further details will be announced shortly.

Hyperion Entertainment and the OS 4 development team would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you for your continued support and patience.

The fact that you are still here, 10 years after the demise of Commodore, has been a tremendous encouragement to us during these 2 years of laborious development.

Make no mistake: your patience will finally be rewarded with the fastest and most powerful incarnation of AmigaOS ever.

Merry X-mas and a prosperous 2004 to all of you!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 1 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Dec-2003 21:44 GMT
How much is the U-Boot upgrade chip for systems without flashable firmware?
How much is the CD & shipping? Why not make ISO downloads available aswell?
Why is it called Developer Pre-release? Is it not recommended for normal end-users?

Anyway, it's nice to see some progress, finally.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 2 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by anon on 25-Dec-2003 22:19 GMT
> Make no mistake: your patience will finally be rewarded with the fastest and
> most powerful incarnation of AmigaOS ever.

I'll give you the "Most Powerfull" for now, but AROS is pretty stinking fast running fully native on my Athlon 3200+ with no emulation at all :D

/troll mode off, let it slide right off your back :)

Merry Christmas everyone, and keep up the good work Hyperion!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 3 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 25-Dec-2003 22:39 GMT
cool! waiting for reviews!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 4 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 25-Dec-2003 22:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
>Why is it called Developer Pre-release?

Well that's easy ....

They promised to never ever release beta-SW, and now they had to come up with a
different name for the baby *eg*
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 5 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 25-Dec-2003 23:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Kronos):
Sheesh, Even on Christmas day you can`t resist having a dig can you?

Mikey C
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 6 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Dec-2003 23:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Mikey C):
Sheesh, What has Christmas day to do with anything?
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 7 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 25-Dec-2003 23:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Mikey C):
You think Christmas would get in the way of petty insults in the Amiga community? I'd be suprised if Judgement Day or the end of the world would...someone would find a terminal connected to the net somehow.

Nice to see developer material available to people. Shame only the privilaged few can run it. What about releasing the developer material to more people with some way of contacting those A1 owners who are willing to do some beta testing?
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 8 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 25-Dec-2003 23:33 GMT
Best wishes for a successful 2004.

Please no TROLLING for any side.

Let them do their work.

It will speak for itself.

Merry Christmas!

;-)

R&B
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 9 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 25-Dec-2003 23:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
Same to you BBRV, have a good time :)

Cheers
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 10 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 26-Dec-2003 00:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
> How much is the U-Boot upgrade chip for systems without flashable firmware?

Just phone your dealer, they will replace the ROM.

> How much is the CD & shipping?

AFAIK both are free.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 11 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 26-Dec-2003 00:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
bbrv wrote:

> Let them do their work.
>
> It will speak for itself.

Gosh, it *must* be Christmas day...

For once I agree with you :-)
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 12 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Dec-2003 02:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
>> How much is the U-Boot upgrade chip for systems without flashable firmware?
>
> Just phone your dealer, they will replace the ROM.

Ok. They want money for the upgrade. Is this UBoot 1.0.1 the last upgrade I will need for OS4? Or do you think I should wait for possible further fixes?

>> How much is the CD & shipping?
>
> AFAIK both are free.

That's great news!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 13 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by frankbisme on 26-Dec-2003 07:40 GMT
Sorry to bust anyone's bubbles, but the news is NOT posted at http://www.amiga.com/news/

It looks like nobody else checked the link out. Oh well.

It *IS* available at:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/_amiga/news_031225b.html

Thank you.
Merry Christmas.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 14 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 26-Dec-2003 10:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
> Ok. They want money for the upgrade. Is this UBoot 1.0.1 the last upgrade I will
> need for OS4? Or do you think I should wait for possible further fixes?

How much do they charge? I was under the impression that you could trade in your ROM for an erasable one...? But then, I am not the guy to ask for the commercial side of things...

Anyway, once you have an upgradeable ROM, you can overwrite it with the next update.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 15 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Dec-2003 15:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
Íf you sometimes are nice, you could show it whe it's cristmas. Most of the people even try to be nice to each other when itäs cristmas. So you know understand how it has to do with everything ?
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 16 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Skyraker on 26-Dec-2003 16:30 GMT
Merry Christmas.

@bbrv

The pills are finally working eh? ;)
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 17 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 26-Dec-2003 16:36 GMT
Congratulations!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 18 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Dec-2003 16:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (ikir):
WTF?




Oh. It's Ikir. OK then... Congratulations to you too. Try to imagine a bunch of GIF smileys here. Here, have some random monosyllabic (almost) drivel too:
Congratulations!
Great!
Rulez!
Wow!
Cool!
LOL!
Eh eh eh eh eh!
Go!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 19 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 26-Dec-2003 17:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Kronos):
Can it Kronos. Its good news for them, so let them enjoy the spotlight.

Good work guys, can't wait to see it in action.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 20 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 26-Dec-2003 17:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
I'm confused I'd think an early-bird system would come with a warranty to fix or replace anything not caused by the end user at least until 30 days after the offical OS was released. Ugh, how horrid for those early early-bird purchases to get a system that's incompatible and be told to spend more money. It appears that Amiga has made future boards with a flash writeable BIOS because they realized they'd be changing the BIOS. My 2 cents is a free retrofit for those users whose systems now won't run AmigaOS due to the BIOS not being able to be upgraded.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 21 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 26-Dec-2003 18:55 GMT
"Oh. It's Ikir"

What? O_o

What i must say? "Congratulations" is fine for me, don't need to say more or troll.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 22 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 26-Dec-2003 20:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Ask Ben
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 23 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 26-Dec-2003 20:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (BrianK):
Well I know I own an Earlybird

It has bin known for a long time that I can only run linux on the system for now,
the BIOS where supposed to be flashed whit a BIOS version for AmigaOS4.0,
prior to the releases of the OS, so one might expect this things.

As a side note; PC mainboard sold separately do not always contained the latest flash,
what make this interesting, is that ROM is not a flashable version? or is it?

I'm quite happy to restive a beta version whit SDK,
even if I expected a full version of the OS.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 24 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Gunne Steen on 26-Dec-2003 20:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Hi Hans-Jörg

# How much do they charge? I was under the impression that you could trade in your ROM for an erasable one...? But then, I am not the guy to ask for the commercial side of things...

-----

Hope you had a good christmas ! :-)

I can only talk for myself and ny company GGS-Data.

We are offering costumers the following these very simple choices;

1; Get the update and reflash self, cost nothing.

2; Send the chip for reprogramming, a small charge for this work have to be charged.

3; Buy a new chip with a newer version of firmware. Cost for the new chip will be charged.

As for the Developer Pre-release OS 4 CD, or what it will be called :-), doesn't matter so very much from my thoughts, we will happely send this out to all costumers of earlybirdsystem without any cost for the costumer, if no cost will be charged on GGS-Data.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 25 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 27-Dec-2003 14:43 GMT
Will it be possible for people who don't have an A1 to get a copy of the Developer CD early? Since it has cross compilers I can compile stuff on my Linux box, or my current Amiga or even my work laptop.

Just a thought really.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 26 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 27-Dec-2003 15:58 GMT
Good work!
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 27 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey McEwen on 27-Dec-2003 20:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (frankbisme):
Sorry to bust anyone's bubbles, but the news is NOT posted at
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/_amiga/news_031225b.html

It looks like nobody else checked the link out. Oh well.

It *IS* available at:

http://www.amiga.com/news/

Thank you.
Merry Christmas.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 28 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by DaveMcK on 28-Dec-2003 11:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Mikey McEwen):
Oh no it's not!

(Panto mode on...)

it's at:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/_amiga/news_031225b.html

as stated before.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 29 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 28-Dec-2003 13:26 GMT
Yes it is on Hyperion Website and on AmigaWorld.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 30 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 28-Dec-2003 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (ikir):
@ikir and @Mikey McEwen

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/ not equal to http://www.amiga.com

and there is no news to find on www.amiga.com/news about it.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 31 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 28-Dec-2003 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Kjetil):
> As a side note; PC mainboard sold separately do not always contained the
> latest flash, what make this interesting, is that ROM is not a flashable
> version? or is it?

I've never ever seen a PC motherboard with a non-flash BIOS ROM. Maybe in the days of the 386/early 486 they were not flashable, but they always are today.

They USED to be EPROM chips - which meant you could program them with the right equipment (ie a UV exposure box and an EPROM programmer), I recall a few with EEPROM (which was expensive)... now they're all FLASH chips even though they still refer to it as a ROM.

I predict that in 5 years time, the PC BIOS as it's known now will be replaced, probably by OpenFirmware.
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 32 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 28-Dec-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 ([JC]):
You might be right about the BIOS being replaced by Uboot or OpenFirmeware, or maybe an other type of boot init code, Energy Start BIOS and other BIOS types have done the job quite good in the past, they only lack some imagination, they are quite standard, config save, and use, I think Uboot provides more power even so, I have not used the uboot any other way then the standards bios, whit the exception of setting up boot args for Linux, so one might say that uboot provides an combination of lilo and BIOS features, combined whit an where simplistic shell,
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 33 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 28-Dec-2003 18:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Kjetil):
Yes, it is what we are saying :)

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and there is no news to find on www.amiga.com/news about it.
------------

The news was posted only on AW and on Hyperion website initially :)

There is no news on www.amiga.com/news or os.amiga.com
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 34 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Vexar on 28-Dec-2003 21:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (ikir):
I was kind of thinking the Amiga OS 4.0 would be out by now. Weren't they putting finishing touches on it in October? I wonder if the question "done by Christmas" was ever asked? The question in my mind is not whether it will be complete by a certain holiday, but whether it will be complete by the time Amiga Inc is dissolved as a corporation. That, to me, is significant. If Amiga Inc is gone, then Hyperion doesn't have to pay them a royalty of some sort, right?

Some day, we will all look back on these hard times and laugh. In the meantime, don't be sore for the folks who are already laughing. It is their way of dealing with the disappointment. I have no doubt in my mind that every one of the "storm crow" Amiga pessimists was at one point a fond, faithful Amiga enthusiast.

--
Vexar, the original (accept no substitutes)
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 35 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 28-Dec-2003 21:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 ([JC]):
How?

Is there OpenFirmware BIOS for my nForce2 400 Ultra and nForce3 150 which can offer similar over clocking features as my Phoenix BIOS?
New Years greetings from Hyperion : Comment 36 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fraggel on 29-Dec-2003 21:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Why not send a EPROM/Flash ROM with the "developer pre release" cd ?
I hope we dont get a hassle with "who will pay for this and that" between eyetech/hyperion and the dealers, that would be BAD !

I recently ordered my earlybird so i REALLY hope i got a flash rom onboard, if not it better be in the OS4 package.

but still, have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR !
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