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Posted on 11-Jan-2004 14:28 GMT by Lukas Stehlik356 comments
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The best Amiga ever - Pegasos II G4 1GHz!
See the benchmark results on AmiGOD2 benchmark page.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 1 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jan-2004 13:54 GMT
looks like the ATI Radeon 9200 driver needs some serious work... look how the 8500 clearly wins on the gfx.

pity noones submitted the results for a PIV-3.4GHz/ATI9800 or somesuch...as
it'd soon put to rest this little 'result'
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 2 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jan-2004 14:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
>looks like the ATI Radeon 9200 driver needs some serious work... look how the >8500 clearly wins on the gfx.

No wonder. A Radeon 8500 is way faster than a 9200SE.

>pity noones submitted the results for a PIV-3.4GHz/ATI9800 or somesuch...

Only Athlon 2100+, ATI Radeon 9700 has been provided so far (Graphics
result: 23644 (800x600x16))
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 3 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Piru on 11-Jan-2004 14:35 GMT
I wouldn't trust this benchmark just yet, not until it works without generating millions of hits.

Even the PowerD startup code is severely broken.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 4 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Piru):
Thanks. I will contact author of PowerD.
Maybe I will switch to C language...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 5 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Jan-2004 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Piru):
Man.. you have way too much time in your hands :)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 6 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 11-Jan-2004 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
You are aware that the Radeon 9200 is slower than the 8500, right?

It's closer to the 7500 or even 7000 than the 8500 in design. More features in the 9200 (as all 9x00 series) but for speed, it's pretty poor.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 7 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jan-2004 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (hooligan/dcs):
> Man.. you have way too much time in your hands :)

It's more likely he had to debug some code which was causing problems to MOS... :-)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 8 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 11-Jan-2004 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
>pity noones submitted the results for a PIV-3.4GHz/ATI9800 or somesuch...as
>it'd soon put to rest this little 'result'

320x200 32bit (16 bit PC mode does crash UAE)

2d 17948
Math 68K 1341
Int 468
Harddisk 312
Memory 500

My machine: Pentium 4 3,4 GHZ, Radeon 9800SE, HT+FSB 500

I was expecting something higher.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 9 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 11-Jan-2004 15:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bennymee):
The P4 is a bad performer in Amiga emulation, my old AMD 1300mhz kick the behind of my P4 1800mhz when running amitlhon/Umilator on them both.

/LB
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 10 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 11-Jan-2004 15:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bennymee):
You're still dealing with the fact that all of your drivers are emulated under UAE/Amithlin while they are native for the Pegasos w/ MorphOS.

Sure, there's still emulation of the 68k binaries, but the actual drivers for things are native, so of course they'd be faster than emulated.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 11 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Darren Eveland on 11-Jan-2004 16:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Nate Downes):
My graphics are faster on my Amithlon setup, I get 96854 (and yes its at 800x600x16) and only with a GeForce 2. (Up to GeForce FX is supported on Amithlon)...also my math is much faster, coming in at 1638.

CPU is a Athlon XP 2400+ not overclocked with 256 megs of PC2100 memory.

But anyway these are just benchmarks. I've seen a Peg-1 and it *does* feel just as fast as my Amitlhon setup. I can only imagine that the Peg-2 feels even faster than the Peg-1.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 12 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 11-Jan-2004 16:16 GMT
Last time I tried Amigod on the Pegasos it was still 68k and it was causing a lot of memory hits resulting in several pages of debug sent through the serial port.
I use Amigamark for CPU / MEM / DISK and p96speed for GFX tests.
There is no native version yet of a GFX benchmark for MorphOS.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 13 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Darren Eveland):
This is impossible! There was one "fast" Athlon 1024x768x32,
but he had 1024x768x only WB screen... But I don't mean resolution
of Workbench screen, but resolution of 2D gfx test - you must
select 800x600x16 screenmode in AmiGOD2.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 14 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Christophe Decanini):
It's because of PowerD - author must improve it and
he promised me MorphOS support already one year ago:(
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 15 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 11-Jan-2004 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Lasse Bodilsen):
The P4 is a bad performer in Amiga emulation, my old AMD 1300mhz kick the behind of my P4 1800mhz when running amitlhon/Umilator on them both.

Yes, but my Pentium 4 3,4 GHZ is ~2 times as fast as my old Dual AMD 1600+ machine with DDR266 and TI4600 - in sysinfo.

My guess is that this system should at least as fast as a 2400+
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 16 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 11-Jan-2004 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Nate Downes):
You're still dealing with the fact that all of your drivers are emulated under UAE/Amithlin while they are native for the Pegasos w/ MorphOS.

Sure, there's still emulation of the 68k binaries, but the actual drivers for things are native, so of course they'd be faster than emulated.


Well, that is not always the case. If your're pc is fast enough...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 17 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Jan-2004 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (bennymee):
Sysinfo.. the god of all performance testers =)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 18 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 11-Jan-2004 17:01 GMT
1) no amigaones/amigaos4 in the test
2) can anyone explain the huge intuition difference in the results from liquidbit and dholm?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 19 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by graviel slate on 11-Jan-2004 17:03 GMT
Is it me, or are there only 3 Amigas in that list?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 20 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 17:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Hagge):
ad 2) dholm had 1600x1200x24 resolution for Intuition test...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 21 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 17:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Hagge):
ad 1) AmigaOS 4 doesn't exists :(
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 22 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 17:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (graviel slate):
I am uploading every results...

Maybe classic Amiga users doesn't send me results because:
a) AmiGOD2 doesn't save results into the file :(
b) classic Amiga is not so fast as Pegasos or Amithlon :(
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 23 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Darren Eveland on 11-Jan-2004 17:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Lukas Stehlik):
Read my lips: I selected 800x600x16.

Darren
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 24 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 17:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Darren Eveland):
Ok. I am sorry. I had Amithlon machine Athlon 1800+, ATI Radeon 8500
and only 17900 in 2D graphics 800x600x16.

Can you send me detailed results or screenshot?
Thanks.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 25 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 11-Jan-2004 17:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (hooligan/dcs):
Yes, it is :)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 26 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by DrBombcrater on 11-Jan-2004 17:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Lukas Stehlik):
Lukas, the reason you got such a low score is because of the Radeon. Amithlon can only run those cards in 'VESA' mode, which is very slow. GeForce cards run in hardware-accelerated mode and so are much faster.

I'll try the benchmark on my Amithlon system later and see what I get. It's an Athlon XP 3200+ with a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 and dual-channel DDR400 so it should have a reasonable chance of defeating the Peg II.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 27 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jan-2004 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (DrBombcrater):
Wasn't there an updated kernel for amithlon with radeon support? I think it was even mentioned on ann.lu some time ago

Cheers
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 28 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Targhan on 11-Jan-2004 17:40 GMT
I had long since sent in my Peg-1 results for AmiGod2, and I look forward to seeing a Peg-][/G3 results comparable to a Peg-1. I mean, we expect the G4 to perform better, but I want to see what difference the other parts make :-)

I have an 040/Mediator/Voodoo3 a1200 that I could add to the list of classic tests. I'de offer to run a test on my Amithlon, but the darned fan on it's PSU failed (grumble grumble).
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 29 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by DrBombcrater on 11-Jan-2004 17:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Amon_Re):
No, Radeons have only very basic non-accelerated support in Amithlon no matter what kernel you use. Matrox cards work in accelerated mode, as do GeForce 2 & 3 cards, and I've produced an updated kernel that supports GeForce 4 cards (Ti accelerated, MX not yet).
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 30 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 17:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Targhan):
AmiGOD2 is still 68k and MorphOS 68k JIT is strange on Peg2 G4.
Native PowerPC code is much faster on G4...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 31 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jan-2004 19:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (DrBombcrater):
Ah ok, thx

Cheers
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 32 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by DrBombcrater on 11-Jan-2004 19:56 GMT
Well, here's the scores for my XP3200+ Amithlon box:

2D: 69189
Math: 1899
Intuition: 4388
Mem: 1666

No HDD score because I'm booting Amithlon off a really slow old drive.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 33 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Grzegorz Kraszewski on 11-Jan-2004 20:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Lukas Stehlik):
Why use so unreliable programming language then? There are some very
good C compilers, with the best of them - GCC which also has many
crosscompilers (MOS->68k, 68k->MOS)?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 34 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 11-Jan-2004 20:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (DrBombcrater):
Mem: 1666

Seems like some artificial. Two PegII tests have same results.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 35 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 20:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (brotheris):
Memory test is still in beta stage:(
It only writes large file to RAM:
I will improve it...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 36 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 21:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (DrBombcrater):
Thanks for the results, I will add it to the AmiGOD2 benchmark page.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 37 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lukas Stehlik on 11-Jan-2004 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (DrBombcrater):
What's your gfx card?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 38 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jan-2004 21:17 GMT
>The best Amiga ever

Is it called Amiga? Does it run AmigaOS? Noh?
Then it's just the fastest Pegasos ever.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 39 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by DrBombcrater on 11-Jan-2004 21:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Lukas Stehlik):
GeForce 4 Ti 4200.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 40 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 11-Jan-2004 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Anonymous):
Tsk... Labels ;)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 41 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by -D- on 11-Jan-2004 22:48 GMT
Hi Lukas,

Just one minor correction for the website, my machine is a Peg II G3,
*not* a G4 (could cause some serious confusion;)).

Regards,

-D-
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 42 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 11-Jan-2004 22:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (DrBombcrater):
Is the PC running on VIA KT600/400 or NVIDIA nForce2 class motherboard?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 43 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 11-Jan-2004 23:12 GMT
>The best Amiga ever - Pegasos II G4 1GHz!

"Amiga" is a trademark for a computer product owned by Amiga Inc., "Pegasos" is a trademark for a computer product owned by Genesi S..r.l. The statement that the Pegasos II would be the best Amiga ever is a contradiction and an impossibility. Unless of course, Genesi would have a license for using the Amiga brand, which they don't.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 44 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by DrBombcrater on 11-Jan-2004 23:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (hammer):
It's an NForce 2 Ultra 400 motherboard.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 45 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 11-Jan-2004 23:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (samface):
Actually, the trademark "Amiga" is also to a line of ladies shoes.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 46 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jan-2004 00:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (samface):
Gay, accept the fact that it runs THE ONLY ORIGINAL AOS (AOS3.x) faster than any TeronCx Board.

Amiga is Aros
Amiga is Pegasos
Amiga is spirit
Amiga is Jay Miner and Busy Guyz stuff (sure not Hyperion or AmigaInc ones)

PS
Or fou you Amiga is also a slip with an AMigaTm on it ... or a mediocre taiwanese mobo relabelled ... or a good anal vibrator that we will give to you during Aos4 waiting (years of pleasure Samface ...)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 47 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 12-Jan-2004 00:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Eva):
... or a good anal vibrator that we will give to you during Aos4 waiting (years of pleasure Samface ...)

Buzzwords.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 48 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 12-Jan-2004 02:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Nate Downes):
I thought it was a telephone company!
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 49 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 12-Jan-2004 03:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Lukas Stehlik):
It appears that on my Pegasos 2/G4 I'm getting better numbers on GFX and Math test with multitasking enabled (better than given on your page) .. Looks like diabling multitasking causes MorphOS JIT compiler some trouble..
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 50 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jan-2004 05:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Nate Downes):
Nate Downes you sure come across as a no clue person at times.

You know full well that the name amiga can be used in non conflicting areas of a trademark.
There is even a Hotel Amiga.

If you think its ok for another computer firm to put amiga on thier product ask your boss Bill Buck of Genesi to sell the pegasos as AmigaPegasos & put your money where your mouth is.
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