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#ZERO by Universe Released at Slash Party 5, 2004, France. First AmigaOne demo ever. #ZERO by Universe Released at Slash Party 5, 2004, France. First AmigaOne demo ever. http://jpv.wmhost.com/releases/USE-Zero.lha Anyone seen it yet ?
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Posted by krize on 10-Aug-2004 13:22 GMT
ooops :)

Can anyone fix it ? :)

<a href="http://jpv.wmhost.com/releases/USE-Zero.lha">
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Posted by Anonymous on 10-Aug-2004 13:29 GMT
OS4 Demo
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 10-Aug-2004 13:57 GMT
>First AmigaOne demo ever.

I watched demos on AmigaOne 2-3 years ago on Linux .. o_O?
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Posted by Chip on 10-Aug-2004 13:57 GMT
Nice demo! Congrats!
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (hooligan/dcs):
They mean first OS4 demo for AmigaOne... but you knew that, right? ;-)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 10-Aug-2004 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Peter Gordon):
I see different evidence.. ;-)

http://www.amiga.gen.tr/images/misc/ZeroShot-3.jpg
First Amiga One Scene Demo! :) : Comment 7 of 62ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 14:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (hooligan/dcs):
OK, well, its probably the first demo _written for_ the AmigaOne. So its still true in that context :-P
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Posted by Chip on 10-Aug-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (hooligan/dcs):
I see Hooligan, you learn a lot from Eva and others... Congratulations! :/
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Chip):
Hehe... at least Hooligan can spell, and uses rational thought ;-)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 10-Aug-2004 14:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Chip):
Chippie, sonny, I was just kidding.. lighten up =)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 10-Aug-2004 15:21 GMT
Now that I managed to download the avi.. go kill the bandwidth.

AVI version here: http://uniweb.free.fr/prerelease/
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Posted by ikir on 10-Aug-2004 15:33 GMT
This demo is very nice! really! And also it win the party!
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 15:37 GMT
Note that the AVI is only 25FPS.. the demo runs a LOT higher FPS when seen 'live'. Its nothing amazing, but it is a good demo with fast effects and some nice design.

A good start to OS4 demoscening, I think.
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Posted by Amon_Re on 10-Aug-2004 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (hooligan/dcs):
Those were terons! *grin*
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Posted by Lando on 10-Aug-2004 16:13 GMT
Is Universe a new group? Haven't heard the name before.

Just leeching the DivX now....
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Posted by Lando on 10-Aug-2004 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (hooligan/dcs):
Is this actually written for AmigaOne - or is it the first OS4 demo - I mean, when OS4 is released for Blizzard and CSPPC will this demo work? Or does it make use of A1-specific features?

Just watched the DivX, looks quite nice, seems to have been "inspired" by Planet Potion in a couple places, a bit short but good!
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 16:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Lando):
AFAIK a betatester has already run it on an A4000... i will also try it as soon as i've fixed my CSPPC OS4 install...

According to Crisot its just a quick 10-day production, so, i think Universe could be someone to watch out for... interested to see what they'll do with Warp3D, too.
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Peter Gordon):
Did you say 'Crisot' ? ;)
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 10-Aug-2004 16:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Darth_X):
Yes. The same Crisot that flushed a Pegasos... I know...
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Posted by Rafo on 10-Aug-2004 17:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Lando):
Maybe a new group in the international scene, but in France, it's a
well known group who did some nice demos before.

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/1999/rtsy99/amiga/demo/jam.lzh 68k/AGA
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2000/ukonx00/amiga/demo/universe_paradise.lha 68k/AGA
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2001/slach01/amiga/demo/unv-powerup.lzx PPC/CGX/AHI

Just for a few of them.
Oh, BTW, the PPC demo runs on Classic Amigas ONLY (A4000/PPC/060 recommended for best experience)
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Peter Gordon):
Well, at least his cat like the Pegasos ;)
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Posted by Amon_Re on 10-Aug-2004 17:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Darth_X):
Yea, neko likes pegasos boards alot, we noticed that :p
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Message removed by Christoph Gutjahr for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: removed on author's request
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 10-Aug-2004 17:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Drrrgh.. Of course, it would've worked better if I'd censored *all* instances that needed censoring. If any moderator cares enough, feel free. : |
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 17:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
<foobar> theres no excuse for a demo like that being 4 megs

Floid can do it better? ;)


Let's see!
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 10-Aug-2004 17:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
My impression: Nice!

The world's impression, censorship mine:
<foobar> floid im upset that thats a 40 meg video instead of a 64k exe
<foobar> its just a fucking demo
<foobar2> yeah me too
<foobar> oh, its an amigaone demo
<foobar> so therefore nobody can run it
> The exe is 4MB LHA'd.
<foobar> thats fucking huge
<foobar> for something like that
> Yeah, I dunno what's in it.
<foobar> it should fit in under 100k
> Probably uncompressed textures.
<foobar> there are barely any textures
<foobar2> whoddathunk that new amiga kids on the block can't program
> They did it all quick and modular, at least 1.7MB of it is the MP3.
<foobar> it sounds like a fucking mod
<foobar> it could be a 3k mod
<foobar> theres no excuse for a demo like that being 4 megs
<foobar> its just wrong
<foobar2> floid christ if you're such an amiga fanboi why aren't you the first
+among us to be dissing this demo as nowhere near what the oldskool f**ks
+would hav edone
> Heh.
> It's just a demo. ;)
<foobar2> i mean, we're used to demos written in visual c++ using opengl and mfc
<foobar> its the microsoft of demos
<foobar2> but the amiga world has 10k of memory and the sweetest demos you've
+ever seen.
> All the C64 people and all the PC people used to hate Amiga people because
+they could easily add 2MB RAM. ;>
> So yeah, but I don't really look at it from that perspective.
<foobar2> you look at amiga as just a bloated extension of ms meant to separate
+artists and the like from their money?
> I look at it as you wouldn't have gotten off your ass and done it in under
+4MB on Linux, would you?
<foobar2> i'm not an amiga fanboi
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Posted by Christoph Gutjahr on 10-Aug-2004 17:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Is that better? I had to repost it as I can't edit your posting.
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 17:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Christoph Gutjahr):
and change...

<foobar2> floid christ if you're such an amiga fanboi why aren't you the first

to...

<foobar2> SATAN if you're such an amiga fanboi why aren't you the first
First Amiga One Scene Demo! :) : Comment 29 of 62ANN.lu
Posted by Johan "Hagge" Krüger-Haglert on 10-Aug-2004 17:58 GMT
Decent demo, too bad there wasn't much of new effects or design.
First Amiga One Scene Demo! :) : Comment 30 of 62ANN.lu
Posted by Christoph Gutjahr on 10-Aug-2004 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Darth_X):
Huh? "Floid" is the one posting the log - does not make much sense to hide his handle, does it?

Am I missing something?
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Posted by Kjetil on 10-Aug-2004 19:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
It's a bit hard to play MOD's when when the old pt tracker code isn't working,
guess this demo will never have happened if they head to make there own mod player
routines, (well maybe if the used code form XMMS, GPL demo how nice)
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 19:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Christoph Gutjahr):
I was joking around, I accidently clicked reply to your comment not his! Sorry
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Amon_Re):
p-chans like peg's too!
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Posted by stefkos on 10-Aug-2004 19:30 GMT
If this information is a news...then i should also give my news.
A month ago Harvester demo-scene group has got 2nd place and Symphony2k4 party.
We released there MorphOS demo , "Step Ahead".
There was been 4 pc demo's and one MorphOS demo.
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Posted by Jupp3 on 10-Aug-2004 19:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Darth_X):
> <foobar> theres no excuse for a demo like that being 4 megs

ELF IS A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 10-Aug-2004 20:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Christoph Gutjahr):
Is that better? I had to repost it as I can't edit your posting.

Heh, I meant the 'excessive swear words!' Just trying to be courteous by the posting guidelines...
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 10-Aug-2004 20:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Darth_X):
Floid can do it better? ;)

Floid can't, but Floid would need hardware to try anyway. ;}
Well, maybe I could figure out MOD playback, if I had a few months. O_o
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Posted by Darth_X on 10-Aug-2004 21:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
> Floid can't, but Floid would need hardware to try anyway. ;}

An expensive A1 or a cheap Pegasos? ;)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Aug-2004 06:32 GMT
While we are there, a fixed version of Rebirth, Assembly'04 intro by Push, can be found here


It works on Pegasos now, so it should work on OS4 aswell.
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 11-Aug-2004 06:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (hooligan/dcs):
...as soon as Warp3D for OS4 is released, you mean ;-)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Aug-2004 06:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Peter Gordon):
EXACTLY :)

A last minute note, a second after I put the link here, I heard that the final of finals is coming soon. So lets call this leaked-not-so-final :)
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Posted by toaks on 11-Aug-2004 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (hooligan/dcs):
it was MADE to work for os4, and the pegasos version doesnt work properly due to its p96 and not cgx.

so check again..

i will consider a fix if some people in the pegasos scene lightens up abit.

cheers

toaks/push-ent.
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Posted by Darth_X on 11-Aug-2004 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (toaks):
> i will consider a fix if some people in the pegasos scene lightens up abit.

Everyone should lighten up a bit. However, those with swollen heads might float away! ;)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Aug-2004 10:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (toaks):
>it was MADE to work for os4, and the pegasos version doesnt work properly due to its p96 and not cgx.

>so check again..


I don't know what to check. Peter said OS4 is lacking the 3d drivers so it doesn't work on OS4.. so enlighten us mortals a bit here.. does it work, or does it not? :)
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Posted by pixie on 11-Aug-2004 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (hooligan/dcs):
> I don't know what to check. Peter said OS4 is lacking the 3d drivers so it
> doesn't work on OS4.. so enlighten us mortals a bit here.. does it work, or
> does it not? :)

Well, I don't know anything about this demo at all but I would assume by your very own question that... 3D native drivers aren't ported yet and so it's using software renderer.
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 11-Aug-2004 10:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (pixie):
>Well, I don't know anything about this demo at all but I would assume by your very own question that... 3D native drivers aren't ported yet and so it's using software renderer.

It's a 4k intro.

Requirements: 040/BV/W3D/13MB
First Amiga One Scene Demo! :) : Comment 47 of 62ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 11-Aug-2004 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (hooligan/dcs):
It's another demo, my mistake...
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Posted by jPV on 11-Aug-2004 12:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (hooligan/dcs):
> It's a 4k intro.
>
> Requirements: 040/BV/W3D/13MB

Works on Voodoo3 too... runs just fine with my classic 060/Voodoo3/P96.
First Amiga One Scene Demo! :) : Comment 49 of 62ANN.lu
Posted by crisot on 11-Aug-2004 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Jupp3):
tsss.... 4 MB just because "elf is a monster" ?

The executable ELF of the demo is 195 KB uncompressed size... rest is datas... JPG and MP3. JPG are 100% quality, MP3 is 160 kbps... But I can also do 10% JPGs and 32 kbps MP3 for a 300 KB demo.


For some people (comment 26), I'm sorry is the demo is crap. For sure, if it was compiled for morphos, 3 times slower, 2 times bigger, this may be a kick ass demo! But it is Os 4...
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Posted by JKD on 11-Aug-2004 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (crisot):
I always attributed the 'ELF is a monster' comment to Stefan Hoser back in the anti-PuP FUD spreading days when WarpUP was the hardware independant solution for the future <rolls eyes>

Clearly I think the post was sarcasm ;-)

You are correctm people forget how much room 'high' quality audio and graphics take up compared with 1988 bit resoultions.

Steve
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