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Posted on 04-Jul-2001 10:27 GMT by Christian Kemp24 comments
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sauro wrote: From Apex-Design web site: One new and one updated city are now available for Payback in the Extra Maps section. Also, the PPC upgrade is taking longer than expected because I'm trying to make sure it uses all the available CPU power. I don't expect to release it for another month but I hope you'll agree that the wait was worth it when it finally is ready.
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Payback news : Comment 8 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Kent Seaton on 04-Jul-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (M.Andersson):
> If you have a PC (my is a PIII 700MHz) you will find Payback really rocking
> in WinUAE. I can't meassure the speed but i floats so much better than any
> 060 arround!!! (You can even run it i highres and it still rocking)
Let me clear up this serious confusion here really quick. My PC that I have sitting on my desk is an AMD 1GHz with an ATI Radeon 64MB DDR. I have a total of 512MB for memory (waiting for SDK to arrive).
I start up UAE (8.16 R4) set to 040 mode with 2MB chip, 8MB fast, 16MB Z3, and 8MB RTG. The chipset is full ECS (AGA is slower, trust me) and sound is Emulated, 100% (3.9 and bb1 installed, 9 out of 10 times it crashes with or without a startup-sequence). I get to the workbench and find the mouse leaving globs of mouse trails all over the place like there's no tomorrow, using arexx I found a quick solution to correcting this but I won't give it to anyone until it's been corrected by the developers of winuae. After waiting for all the system to come to a cool mellow murmur reminding me of just how smooth the Amiga's operating system is, I under go the three double clicks to get to my favorite game.
Now then... the intro of payback comes up and I watch it all the way through (most of the time). After I press fire (space or whatever) I get to the main menu and the music of the intro will finally start playing about that point. Oh yeah, when the main menu comes in, it's like trying to play quake on a ZII graphics card at 1024x768 using the 040 rendering routines (so that means I have to wait about 30 seconds for the menu to finally show up). I can fly through the rotating images to select the stuff I want (generally a little rampage on a little chicago does the trick for me). About 45 seconds into the game (playing at 320x240) the intro music finally stops and I hear all of the actions that I made on the menu (which by that point I've already acquired a bus, killed a few cops, and planted a gernade launching party from the city hall rooftop).
That's not the only problem with payback on UAE though... on my Amiga (4000PPC w/060 w/PIV) it was flawless... extremely smooth and not jerky at any point (unlike UAE). The sound was incredible even bringing me to tears I was laughing so hard a few times (splut!). Ask Roger about it, he's the one who did the Little Chicago map, it was priceless.
I have talked with many people who say that UAE is just as fast as the Amiga and in some cases faster, it's amazing though... UAE through the workbench is very fast I will give it that, but it will never replace a real Amiga with all the bugs that are in it. I've found playing games on a real Amiga system is far better than having to run through the awkward "did it crash yet" scenario many times a day to play a game you think is fun.
When you think about it, gaming on UAE is only one aspect, there are hundreds others I'll bet... if you have IFX4, try a sobel edge at a radius of 3 while using regions. You might be surprised with such amazing speeds that rival even the best 020 around for some operations.
By the time UAE is "all that" (bug free and every bit the Amiga as much as it can be) most of the Amiga community will be using AmigaOnes, Tsunamis, bPlan systems, even the BoXeR of all things.
It's better to give all of the details rather than filling false hopes of UAE being what it really isn't. Give me a real Amiga system over any UAE setup any day of the week.
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Kent Seaton
Public Relations - Amiga.org
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