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[News] Pegasos and MorphOS presented in BordeauxANN.lu
Posted on 07-Jul-2002 19:05 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä257 comments
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Here you can see some photos from a Pegasos presentation held yesterday in Bordeaux, France. [ Mirrors: 1, 2, 3 - CK ]
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 251 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 10-Jul-2002 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 237 (Anonymous):
> That was not the point of debate.
Well, it started when I replied to the post saying Rage Hard was
a MorphOS-exclusive game, which it isn't.
> We talked about MOS getting original games
> vs. some 2 year old ports. I think we can
> agree after all?
That much is true, Rage Hard isn't a years-old port, although I'm
afraid "games" is wrongly plural. Still, even 1 new game is more
than AmigaOS4 has so far, that I'm aware of.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 252 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 10-Jul-2002 11:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 239 (more guff to grumble on):
> ehaines doesnt know jack.
Even in my most forgetful moments I know 10x as much as you, Shawn, as
everyone will agree.
> If you look as David did these are morphos supported, and if ehaines
> would look further he would find support for the morphos in the form
> of much bigger companies.
A lie. Post some links. Oh, you can't?
> ehaines and others wont admit nor do this, they would rather argue on
> somethign of which they know nothing of and/or they lie .
Stop lying. I only deal with facts, whether you like them or I like them
or anyone likes them.
> The fact remains games are being ported to morphos even before they are
> ported to mac, and mac users have noticed this and the fact
> that they like the morphos shows that the Pegasos has a firm base.
More lies. 99.99% of Mac users don't even know the Pegasos exists.
> As always, if you wait and not support ,everyone looses. Nobody waited and
> supported the wintel world and thats why we are in this mess. Support the
> Pegasos as its proven he way to go .
It's 100% unproven so far. Nobody even HAS any aside from a few developers.
If they do, they're keeping awfully quiet about it, which would be really
stupid. I was all set to buy one back in January when it was supposed to be
released.
> It may not be the true Amiga but its a dam site clsoe then the so called a1.
As far as technology goes, it's nearly identical to the AmigaOne. Which
makes your screaming and crying about the Pegasos even more pathetic than
it already was.
> WE will have a true new " AMiga" again sooner then you think,
Another lie. Don't you get tired of that? (Er, no, you don't....)
> but you must
> support somebody that is goign the right way, and that is the Pegasos.
According to Shawn the Bus Arch Troll? Ouch, bplan must be embarrassed.
With supporters like you, who needs enemies?
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 253 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 10-Jul-2002 11:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 252 (ehaines):
"Shawn the Bus Arch Troll? "
Someone fill me in on the history behind this nicknane? please? ;)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 254 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Johan "Graak" Forsberg on 10-Jul-2002 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 253 (TBone):
I think he's called that because he thinks the Amiga bus system (Zorro II/III) is so much superior than PCI and AGP. He also talks a lot of bullshit of AGA being so superior etc =)<BR>
<BR>
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong =)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 255 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 10-Jul-2002 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 244 (Anonymous):
> 1. You mean 16.8 million (2^2416777216)
>
> 2. Classic Amiga hardware wasn't up to it really, try an order of magnitude
> less if you want a count of different colors that could be reliable reproduced.
Right, HAM8 is essentially 18-bit. AGA has a maximum of 8 bitplanes, but
out of 8 bits in HAM8, 2 are the control bits, 00 or 01 or 10 or 11, which is
4 possibilities, meaning one of these for each pixel:
* Use the last 6 bits for a register color (6^2 gives 64 separate colors for
that, and those 64 colors can be from the full 24-bit pallette, but best to
use highly contrasting colors for these to reduce fringing)
* Take the color of the pixel to the left (the leftmost pixel on each row
must be a register color, obviously), and use the last 6 bits to change
the Red value to one of 64 values
* Take the color of the pixel to the left, and use the last 6 bits to change
the Green value to one of 64 values
* Take the color of the pixel to the left, and use the next 6 bits to change
the Blue value to one of 64 values
So 6+6+618 bits, and 18^2 = 262,144 maximum colors. (Or, another way,
64*64*64262,144.) This number is quoted on the box of my Amiga1200. Old Amigas could only use 6 bitplanes, so 2 control bits left 4 bits, 4+4+4 = 12,
12^24096, which happened to be the max colors that could be displayed anyway.
To use the full 24 bit palette in AGA, you'd need 10 bitplanes. HAM10 was
actually going to be in AAA, but we all know what happened to that. And even
then:
> 3. You'd require a 8129 x 2048 display to get them all on screen at once
Amiga was originally going to use HSV (hue, saturation, value) instead of
RGB. You can see this would make HAM make more sense and result in less
fringing (although HAM8 does a decent job anyway).
Too bad Shawn the Bus Arch Troll doesn't have the vaguest clue about that
which he advocates. He gets everything wrong. Even worse than SG from c.s.a.*.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 256 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by nwrma on 10-Jul-2002 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 255 (ehaines):
"Too bad Shawn the Bus Arch Troll doesn't have the vaguest clue about that
which he advocates. He gets everything wrong. Even worse than SG from c.s.a.*. "
You know you've lost.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 257 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jul-2002 16:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (ehaines):
>The AmigaOne is already more successful and in the hands of more users than the Pegasos
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