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[News] Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester!ANN.lu
Posted on 04-Aug-2002 20:43 GMT by Frodon185 comments
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The full announcement is available in the Read More.

Just a clarification to avoid misinterpretations:

For 1000 Euros you get a complete system, not only the motherboard (So you get: Motherboard + CPU + Memory + Harddrive + CD-Rom drive + Graphic Card + Tower + PSU) Announcing BETATESTER and Team Betatester!

The time has come for Thendic-France/bplan to start selling machines. We are not going to call it the Pegasos for now. We are going to call the pre-release version of the Pegasos with the pre-release version of MorphOS for PPC: BETATESTER. MorphOS may not be ready for regular computer users, but it is ready for developers. This coming weekend we will begin to sell the machines directly from Thendic-France. We will sell all 15 machines we take with us for the SLACH PARTY CONTEST in Bordeaux to people that agree to join «Team Betatester». We can take as many orders as there is interest. We have decided to do this because in two weeks we will begin to receive delivery of the first *1000* lot of BETATESTER mainboards. These will be completely configured and ready to sell to developers who join Team Betatester by Thendic-France. (Note: any mainboards not sold as BETATESTERS will be sold with firmware only to our Linux distributors).

You can purchase a BETATESTER for 1000 Euros (tax not included).

Team Betatester will be composed of people who do/agree to do the following:

1. Purchase a BETATESTER for 1000 Euros (tax not included)
2. Sign an NDA
3. Sign an Agreement not to sell the machine (we will purchase back all machines that need to be sold for any reason).
4. Provide a minimum of two bug reports per week (including negative reports) until the conclusion of the BETATESTER program (approximately 12 weeks).
5. Agree to test applications as required/time permits
6. Test new peripheral devices including the Thendic Smart Card Reader (for secure FTP access, online payment and loyalty programs), the DataPlay disc drive and the ComCam and associated viewing software.

Team Betatester members may also agree/become eligible to port applications to MorphOS for hire by Thendic-France/bplan.

In exchange, Team Betatester members will receive:

1. A MorphOS for PPC v.90 T-shirt
2. A free copy of the commercial release of MorphOS for PPC v1.0 when it is ready.
3. A discount on the Betatester G4 upgrade
4. Access to the Betatester FTP for updates, fixes, test applications and application releases.

and of course a BETATESTER with a TWO-YEAR WARRANTY for Hardware!
The SLACH PARTY CONTEST 15 BETATESTERS will be available for the contest from 12:00 Friday to 18:00 Saturday. As the Slach Party, the contest will be monitored and open during the entire 36 hours non-stop. Individuals/contestants may enter multiple times, but priority will be given to first time participants, second time participants, third time, etc. in that order. We will have a sign up sheet by hour for each of the 36-hour blocks. If a block of time is unassigned others may then fill-in/wait-list as machines become available.

The Contest is basically being held to:

1. Announce the beginning of Team Betatester
2. Develop a logo for the BETATESTER and Team Betatester.
3. Promote the SALES of the BETATESTER

The objective of the contest is to create the best «BETATESTER» logo using Candy Factory Pro on a BETATESTER (that is a pre-release Pegasos) in a one hour period. All submitted logos must include the word Betatester

The Judges for the Contest will be:

• Raquel Velasco
• Gerald Carda
• Rakesh Raghoebardayal
• Mike Bourgeoisat
• Johan Ronnblom


All the logos will be presented to the Judges Saturday evening at 1800. The First Prize award a BETATESTER -- will be presented the same night at 2000. All participants will be required to agree to our contest rules to be eligible. The rules are:

1. No outside data will be allowed to be loaded on the machine.
2. The time limit will be one hour.
3. Only the Candy Factory Pro can be used to create the logo.
4. All logos become the property of Thendic-France/bplan and can be used on our websites.
5. Contestants may enter more than once but never at the expense of another who has not had an opportunity.

All rules will be followed and anyone not doing so will be immediately eliminated at our discretion from the competition.

Another Contest -- we will also begin a contest where people can submit names for the eclipsis, the handheld version of the Pegasos (see "eclipsis" at www.thendic-france.com. If you submit a name you are eligible to purchase a MorphOS T-Shirt at a very reasonable price :)

and a bit more information!

Over the next couple/few months there are a series of shows that have been planned. Here is a list of what is planned today:

• 7-8 September, A-Expo in Tain l\'Hermitage (France)
• 14 September, BETATESTER I in Frankfurt
• 21-22 September, Pianeta 2002 in Empoli (Florence, Italy)
• 21-22 September, AmiGBG and GGS-Data Show (Gothenburg, Sweden)

During October, we will also set-up BETATESTER conferences in London and Moscow. Unlike the other events, the BETATESTER conferences will be our events. In all cases, we will divide up our team as required to support the events. All of us will go to the A-Expo. At the A-Expo we will also sell BETATESTERS to all that agree to the Team Betatester requirements.

When someone else hosts the show we will organize ourselves, as we will this weekend for the Slach Party. We will demonstrate BETATESTERS and hold a contest.

For the developer conferences we host, they will be one-day affairs and include a dinner we will hold that evening.
Admission to the full day program will be based on a pre-order/payment for a BETATESTER. Purchasers may pay at the door, but must agree to the Team Betatester requirements. No one who has not purchased a machine will be admitted.

A different MorphOS T-Shirt will be released at each event: v.90 Bordeaux, v.91 Tain l\'Hermitage, v.92 Frankfurt, v.93 Gothenburg/Empoli, etc. When the Pegasos is ready for commercial release we will have v1.0 (and we will offer for sale the entire collection).

If you have any questions you can email us at bbrv@thendic-france.com.

Best regards,

Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 151 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 06-Aug-2002 13:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (Samface):
Samface, this is the most rational and unbiased post i have read from you!
Pity you had to put an apology in it;)
The question is, Did H&P give hyperion the source?
Did /hyperion rewrite it after getting the source ilegally?
Or did they rewrite based on legal means? (like mos did with 3.1);)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 152 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 06-Aug-2002 13:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (cheesegrate):
<
>The question is, Did H&P give hyperion the source?
No... that's where the whole Amithlon licensing issue started. AInc didn't want to make an acceptable deal with H&P because H&P didn't want to give back the OS3.9 sources - or something like that.
>Did /hyperion rewrite it after getting the source ilegally?
>Or did they rewrite based on legal means? (like mos did with 3.1);)
Hyperion contacted all/most of the share/freeware developers which contributed to OS3.9 (contributions were mainly patches that were available on Aminet).
So I guess Reaction is no longer a part of AmigaOS - tank god :)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 153 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 06-Aug-2002 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 152 (darklite):
Well AFAIK they got the developer of Reaction/ClassAct working for them, so
Reaction will be part of AmigaOS4. I hope that the API will be improved cause
it's not as good as MUI's (for me).
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 154 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Aug-2002 14:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 152 (darklite):
Its sad that H&P sold Amithlon/AmigaXL without license, no matter for what reason. I had really liked stormC ...
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 155 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 06-Aug-2002 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
"With a few rare exceptions, all the functionality that was present in
3.9 will also be present in 4.0. "
Will Editpad and the Unarchiver be there? I find both of these useful.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 156 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 06-Aug-2002 15:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (cheesegrate):
Let Amiga Inc. and H&P sort out the licensing issues on their own, your speculations is not helping.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 157 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 06-Aug-2002 21:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (cheesegrate):
"Fact is mos is far ahead of aos4 in development for the ppc platform
Face it.. (if you can get the wool out of your eyes that is;))"
so what MacOS-X is far ahead of both.
does that mean i should choose a OS just cos its dev is ahead.
i choose an OS cos of what its got to offer not cos its first past the post as if that was the case Morphos & AmigaOS have lost along time ago.
anyway all i want is AmigaOs & nothing eles & Morphos is Morphos & AmigaOS is AmigaOS so MorphOS offers me nothing.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 158 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 06-Aug-2002 21:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (cheesegrate):
Cool the pegasos and mos is out. That's great, it means the amiga community might not die out as quickly. people have put in some work.
erm that would make it the MorphOS commuity not the amiga community.
if we go & buy a Mac how would that be good for the Amiga community.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 159 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Aug-2002 22:37 GMT
You guys need a life, realy
Ok, the "BETATESTER" is coming out (you gotta give'em credit for originality here /sarcasm off), with the develloper release of MOS (haven't we heard this before?), it just costs a measly 1000$ without taxes (or was ir 1000 euro's? its late).
Afew questions:
1) What good is this for the comsumer market?
2) What has MOS to offer the comsumer market to validate such an investment?
3) Is there a market for MOS?
4) Will it run xyz?
(Sure, these questions are valid for AOS too, but i'll get to that lateron)
I for one won't get overly excited over this (be it Ainc or Thendic that release these things), as it's a develloper box (i do wonder for what devellopers? the Amiga market is extremely small, and the numbers they are expecting to sell are unrealistic at best, considering the price), and therefor of little interrest to the average Joe.
The good news about this that you might like is that they are apperently sure of their hardware & about MOS's current state to start shipping (lets hope the legal issue's are non-existent), but the comsumer version is a sight for the future.
Most of you know what "camp" i'm on (yes, AOS), but this shouldn't prevent you all to reply to this in an intelligent manner :)
Now on to those questions:
1: The only good thing that might come out of this are afew apps written for it when the comsumer version is released, however, no major software will be available for it as far as i know, and the only good apps available will be under linux (yes, this is valid for both platforms). The market is to small for any mayor devellopment (other then the OSes at hand, wich are still small in terms of manpower)
2: The only thing about MOS that i can name now is "being alternative", considering the arguments with Ainc i don't know how compatable MOS will be with AOS, but that isn't going to sell that much boards neighter. There is no unique selling point as far as i can see
3: This could be awnsered together with Q2, but for clarity lets do it here, the only market foreseable is the AOS market, wich is fragmented & small, MOS is unlikely to attract another market (server market is primarely linux, desktop is mac (if we stick to PPC)
4: The biggest question & the only point that might save MOS, will it run older AOS titles properly & fast? Will it run newer titles properly? If MOS does intend to keep AOS compability, they'll have to continually implement the features of AOS, wich might be technicly quite challenging (not to mention time comsuming), and this is a disadvantage for MOS, that is why they are racing with AOS i think, to reverse this situation.
As you can see from this post (wich can be applied to AOS too in a certain distance) the chances for MOS (AOS) are small, whomever gets the devellopers for this market has the best survival chances, i'm betting on AOS
If i wasn't clear, let me know :)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 160 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 07-Aug-2002 00:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (Alkemyst):
So, I'm part of the MorphOS community, not the Amiga one, right?
I spent all these years waiting for THE NAME for nothing, right?
They screwed us up more than enough... I can have a PPC Amiga
compatible and Amiga like OS RIGHT NOW. Should I wait EVEN more?
No, thanx, I'll use what is available right now. We'll see about
the future, when OS4 gets released.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 161 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 07-Aug-2002 00:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 159 (Amon_Re):
4: The biggest question & the only point that might save MOS, will it run older AOS titles properly & fast? Will it run newer titles properly? If MOS does intend to keep AOS compability, they'll have to continually implement the features of AOS, wich might be technicly quite challenging (not to mention time comsuming), and this is a disadvantage for MOS, that is why they are racing with AOS i think, to reverse this situation.
--
Already does all of these. It will soon run -ahem- you'll see:)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 162 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Aug-2002 02:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (gz):
I am Morphos
Ah, this keeps getting better and better...
I can't wait til the lawyers get called in and the lawsuits start a flying...
Make sure you all have a jumbo popcorn with extra butter, a big gulp soda, and a comfy seat. It's going to be a fun show.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 163 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 07-Aug-2002 05:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 160 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
yes i dont mined ppl useing whats out there now cos they cant wait for the real thing.
but dont tell the rest of us that are will to wait not to & get the amiga like OS or we are stupid for waiting.
like many around here do.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 164 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 07-Aug-2002 05:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
no i dont think it aready does & soon to evenless
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 165 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 07-Aug-2002 05:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 132 (darklite):
Oh boohoo! Excuse me while I go and run behind the schoolyard bikeshed and blub my eyes out! You really are
funny ;-)
To quote pulp fiction "you gotta have an opinion".
I will say what I like, when I like in an innoffensive a way as I can manage and if you
find that condescending or patronising I think you need to get out more, or get more
rest or even count to ten and think maybe...just maybe its the way you read it. ( e.g. a writing style ).
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 166 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 07-Aug-2002 06:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Interesting! About as many people are developing AmigaOS as there are people developing AmigaDE.
Could we have accurate status update, please. Or do I really need to stick to Amiwest recordings...?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 167 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Jürgen Lange on 07-Aug-2002 07:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 148 (Samface):
> And stop whining about the prices already, rare stamps are expensive
> as well, live with it.
.. and they are useless for the real thing (sending letters). I
understand what you want to say. ;-)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 168 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 07-Aug-2002 10:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 163 (Alkemyst):
I never said that, but people DID say to me that I'm stupid, retarted, even
perverted for using MorphOS!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 169 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 07-Aug-2002 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 165 (DaveW):
>Oh boohoo! Excuse me while I go and run behind the schoolyard bikeshed and
>blub my eyes out! You really are funny ;-)
>
>To quote pulp fiction "you gotta have an opinion".
>
>I will say what I like, when I like in an innoffensive a way as I can manage
>and if you find that condescending or patronising I think you need to get out
>more, or get more rest or even count to ten and think maybe...just maybe its
>the way you read it. ( e.g. a writing style ).
No, you've always been patronising, and are even more so with your new 'style'. Just don't complain about me and others when you yourself constantly act like a prick.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 170 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Justin Smith on 07-Aug-2002 15:26 GMT
>>4: The biggest question & the only point that might save MOS, will it run >>older AOS titles properly & fast? Will it run newer titles properly? If MOS >>does intend to keep AOS compability, they'll have to continually implement >>the features of AOS, wich might be technicly quite challenging (not to >>mention time comsuming), and this is a disadvantage for MOS, that is why they >>are racing with AOS i think, to reverse this situation.
>--
>
>Already does all of these. It will soon run -ahem- you'll see:)
Will MorphOS run AmigaOS 4 applications? I haven't yet heard anything definitive from the MorphOS team on this point.
If so (and the legal issues are sorted), then great!
If not, why would I spend $1000 on a MorhpOS machine that doesn't offer anything more as an Amiga than other 3.x emulators like UAE, Fellow, AmigaOS XL, or Amithlon, which I can run right now on my Windoze PC for a fraction of the cost? At least some of these will run games through chipset emulation (as will AmigaOS 4 via PCI A1200 expansion).
I must not be getting it.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 171 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 07-Aug-2002 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (Justin Smith):
it's not a 3.1 emulator. It's a 3.1 compatible OS. UAE, Fellow, etc. just emulate OS3.1. MorphOS is an OS on it's own right. It has it's own gui it's
own prefs editors, it's own desktop, it's own drivers, it's own RTG system,
it's own kernel, etc etc etc. You got the point.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 172 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 07-Aug-2002 16:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 171 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
we get the point so there is nothing wrong with MS or Apple usdeing the same leaching tatics to get amiga ppl to move over there
OS.
they just got to add 3.1 compatible API then they can spam on ANN & all other amiga sites & then move ppl over windows-XP & Apple side of the OS.
as ppl will use the 3.1 compatible side mostly to run old amiga apps but everything new will use MoS API then will no longer be amiga SW when that happends it will be MoS SW.
maybe CBM should of built spectrum compatible API into the C64 & could of leach the spectrum users fast & killed of sinclare sooner & saved us from the C5
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 173 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 07-Aug-2002 20:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 172 (Alkemyst):
You're free to use the AmigaOS API to code for MorphOS! You just compile it
for the PPC processor. You can then recompile it for AmigaOS68k or even OS4
if you like...
BTW, just a question... Why didn't anyone say the same about p.OS?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 174 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Justin Smith on 08-Aug-2002 13:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 171 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>MorphOS is an OS on it's own right. It has it's own gui it's
>own prefs editors, it's own desktop, it's own drivers, it's own RTG system,
>it's own kernel, etc etc etc. You got the point.
No, not really. If it's an OS "on it's own right", why can't they develop their own APIs? AmigaOS isn't perfect, and they have a chance to make some better decisions this time around. Backwards compatibility can mean some huge trade-offs.
So why don't they build their _own_ OS and ship it with a solid port of UAE or a finished AROS? No legal wrangles (unless they hand out unlicensed Amiga ROMs), and none of the limitations maintaining API compatibility implies.
I still don't get it.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 175 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Justin Smith on 08-Aug-2002 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 173 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>You're free to use the AmigaOS API to code for MorphOS! You just compile it
>for the PPC processor. You can then recompile it for AmigaOS68k or even OS4
>if you like...
The AmigaOS 4 API? Will a simple recompile allow a new game using Amiga3D and AmigaInput to run under MorphOS? Or rendering software using ExecSG's virtual memory and memory protection? Or even a simple prefs program using AmigaOS 4's enhanced Reaction?
They're not going to run under recompile for AmigaOS68k/3.x. What about MorphOS?
If not, MorphOS might as well be based on AmigaOS 1.1 APIs for all the use it'll be to new Amiga software.
>BTW, just a question... Why didn't anyone say the same about p.OS?
Because when p.OS was being developed Escom had just gone under and the vultures were circling. There was little, if any, chance of a new AmigaOS. Would anyone take p.OS seriously now that 30 or so top Amiga programmers are working on an official solution?
And no one had concerns about ProDAD stealing AmigaOS source code.
Interesting question, though, Alkis. I wonder what happened to p.OS. If the chants of "MorphOS is better 'cause they started development years before AmigaOS 4" are any indication, p.OS should have a huge following :-).
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 176 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Pegasos on 08-Aug-2002 13:57 GMT
Amiga nor Eyetech can beat that. Eat just eat it.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 177 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Ah what tangeled web we weave on 08-Aug-2002 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Considering yours is a niche withn a niche and Pegasos isnt a niche at all.
So dont go there ,and no legal terms either because you lost there too.
Pegasos is for the general public not for the few so called a1 people that use the mickysoft as a bed partner and thereby ending up as a lost cause. If Amiga inc , Eyetech and hyperion continue to this crooked line they will continue and end up being a lost nonexsistent cause.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 178 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Aug-2002 20:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 175 (Justin Smith):
When I say AmigaOS I mean AmigaOS 3.1.
As for the other point, they are developing their own API.
Secondly, MorphOS was originally developed with (almost full) source
compatability with AmigaOS in mind. It's very easy to port a
clean AmigaOS app to MorphOS.
About UAE, UAE wouldn't allow a third of the stuff MorphOS offers.
No PPC stuff, no 3d stuff, no nothing.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 179 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Justin Smith on 09-Aug-2002 01:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 178 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>When I say AmigaOS I mean AmigaOS 3.1.
How useful would Wine and Lindows be if they only meant Windows 3.1 compatibility?
>Secondly, MorphOS was originally developed with (almost full) source
>compatability with AmigaOS in mind. It's very easy to port a
>clean AmigaOS app to MorphOS.
So AmigaOS 4 apps aren't "clean"? Okay, I'm being picky, but I'm just failing to see the relavance of AmigaOS 3.1 compatibility with a vastly improved AmigaOS 4 on the horizon.
>About UAE, UAE wouldn't allow a third of the stuff MorphOS offers.
>No PPC stuff, no 3d stuff, no nothing.
At least UAE will run Wings :-).
But how 'bout compared to what AmigaOS 4 will offer? I think it's a pretty safe bet which product will sport better AmigaOS 3.1 compatibility (_legal_ access to original sources can't hurt), and as far as 3D goes, Hyperion seem to have a leg up on Ralph Schmidt. The remainder of AmigaOS 4's feature list seems to compare favorably with that I've seen of MorphOS.
I guess we'll just have to wait until both products are released and see how they shape up. And what software's available (that's the scary part). I've put my $50 down towards an AmigaOne, and I'm sure there's someone out there with a $1000 woth of curiosity towards the MorphOS dev machine. We'll have benchmarks and compatibility lists to toss at each other soon enough.
Sound fair, Alkis?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 180 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 09-Aug-2002 07:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 177 (Ah what tangeled web we weave):
Pegasos is very much a niche product - or will be when it is released.
OS4 will start out a niche product too.
Apps built on OS4 will be a niche within a niche.
In fact,.all products are a niche within a niche when you think about it.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 181 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Aug-2002 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 179 (Justin Smith):
The differencies between AmigaOS 3.1 and AmigaOS 4 aren't even remotely
comparable with the differencies between Win3.1 and Win9x and NT.
Secondly, all programs available right now are 3.1 programs.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 182 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Conculsion on 09-Aug-2002 22:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 180 (DaveW):
Wrong the Pegaos works with linux ppc and they have companies buying from them just to use the Pegasos system . The niche is that you cant run 4.0 or the system without that particular crappy bios that the a1 has. Pegasos doesnt have this setback and can work with any ppc linux and mac os too. the a1 cant claim that. AS far as the speed and power, the benchmarks and video speak for themsleves. Pegasos wins hands down.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 183 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 09-Aug-2002 23:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 182 (Conculsion):
wrong the Aone already has many types of ppc linux running on it for sometime now!
& MacOnLinux has been running on it as well.
were the hell have you been to miss all this.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 184 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 09-Aug-2002 23:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 182 (Conculsion):
oh & your mac os comment makes it sound like its running native.
when it is not.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 185 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Conculsion on 10-Aug-2002 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 183 (Alkemyst):
I havent, it just runs bad . The end result is if you want crap get the a1. If you want something that really represents the true Amiga theology ,get Pegasos. Well what it once represented. Amiga is not that way now.
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