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Posted on 05-Dec-2002 18:53 GMT by Sjoerd de Vries146 comments
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Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 51 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Chip on 06-Dec-2002 15:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Robert):
That one! Before Mai. :)))) (And after March.)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 52 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Jiggly on 06-Dec-2002 15:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (David Scheibler):
I seem to remember Eyetech announced at the WOA-SE that the problem had been recognised on their previously shipped boards and it was to be fixed on all following boards. He also says this at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/22789
Genesi gave the impression that their April chip fixes something else, but haven't yet announced what it might be.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 53 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Robert on 06-Dec-2002 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (takemehomegrandma):
> > There are two different: LC4032V is an CPLD
> and:
> > iM4A3-64 is a socket adaptor
Thanks.
I saw that but I'm an ignoramus in these matters.
What does the other one do?
Or is that irrelevant?
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 54 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ZaP on 06-Dec-2002 15:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (takemehomegrandma):
> "I really thought they had some *big macho chips*, some good looking
> chips, and not those two small pathetic ones. Big chips are impressive,
> but I really can't be impressed by those small ones.
> Small chips are only annoying".
I don't think this 'april' chip does something really important regarding performance issues. Keep in mind that it is said that Articia's bug refers to transferring massive amounts of data between PCI devices. Do you think that this external little thingy is capable to improve Articia's performance ? or may only switch off something ?
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 55 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 15:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (ZaP):
I am sure that the device can fix things like timing issues on the PCI bus quite adequately and thus fix the issue without disabling anything.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 56 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ZaP on 06-Dec-2002 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Anonymous):
> I am sure that the device can fix things like timing issues on the PCI bus
> quite adequately and thus fix the issue without disabling anything
So it sounds like slowing down the data throughput and regarding performance it is decreasing of it.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 57 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 06-Dec-2002 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]:
> You are wrong ;O)
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and shouldn't tell engineers and/or hw designers that they're "wrong".
> There are two different: LC4032V is an CPLD
> iM4A3-64 is a socket adaptor
Do you know what a CPLD and a socket adapter is? You can put a CPLD (like this one from Lattice's ispMACH4A3 series) in a socket adapter (like one from CIC, and they cost about 200 bucks!).
What the hell did you do to come to such an absurd conclusion? You Googled for the part # you saw printed on the package, hit "I'm feeling lucky", and came up with "socket adapter", or what?
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 58 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 15:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (ZaP):
As someone said, it is a 2.2ns chip, which I assume means it can perform its necessary work in 2.2ns. Which is more than adequate for a 33MHz PCI bus where each clock is 30ns long.
Although I never trust my maths. And 2.2ns is damn fast which makes me trust my maths even less.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 59 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 15:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Graham):
Go see what Alan writes about Thendic on official A-one list and judge then people here..
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/22808
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 60 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 15:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (JoannaK):
Alan's statements are definitely UNDER THE BELT.
This said, I don't know the truth, but wouldn't trust
him too much.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 61 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 15:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Considering the fact that some time ago you were loudly claiming that there is NO bugs on that chip and were totally wrong, how come you now suddenly would know something about technology?
Or is it only that arrogace that keeps you going?
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 62 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 15:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (JoannaK):
I heard such claims came from both parties... So... Dunno...
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 63 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Andrea Maniero on 06-Dec-2002 16:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
> Didn't T. De Grotte/Hyperion already confirmed the bug and provided an easy solution/workaround (ide=nodma) ?
I hope this is not their concept of `fixing' a problem. I mean, it's like if someone experiencing a problem on an airplane, so that it won't take off, solves it by saying: `let's use it as a car!'.
@JoannaK
Well, reading the post you pointed us to, maybe yes, it's the way they're going to fix it...
*shakes his head in disbelief*
Kind regards,
Andrea
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 64 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 06-Dec-2002 16:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (JoannaK):
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/22789
Alan Redhouse, stop pretending that you know anything and go back to your store.
He obviously doesn't know when to shut up.
Hardware flaws should be "fixed" with workarounds in the "kernal [sic!] and firmware"? This fix can't be good because CPLDs are "small" and cost "40 cents"?
Following that "reasoning", a snippet of code should only be stored on large and expensive tapes, instead of a small and cheap floppy disk? The code must be much more buggy and quicker written when it's stored on a floppy... We should all drive a 200 ton mining truck down the street to buy a newspaper, instead of taking the bike? The bike would be the appropriate and most efficient tool for the job, but it can't be good because it's cheaper and smaller than the mining truck.
So there's no reason for Mai to come up with new cores then, just do the fixes and upgrades in every OS's "kernal" and in the firmware of all boards that uses and will use the Articia?
> Personally I would never have dreamt of giving the similar gal used for
> our/MAI's hardware fix any name at all.
It's the entire PCB design, including "GALs" and bplan's code in those, and its application that has a name. Why would anyone dream of naming a motherboard? It's just a bunch of off the shelf components that someone has put together in a cerain order, right?
Said Alan, who sells solderjobs like the "EZ-Key EX" (TM) keyboard adapters, and a "Teron CX" motherboard under the licensed "AmigaOne SE" trademark.
But bugs discovered by bplan doesn't exist, so why should there be a reson to fix this in "the kernal" or in the firmware?
Clown.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 65 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 06-Dec-2002 16:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
> ide=nodma
LOL! Yeah, that sounds like a Redhousish "kernal" fix. If he knew how to configure Linux, that is.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 66 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Lawd):
Get over yourself, won't you.
The whole "April" thing was a load of sensationalist FUD, and all it turned out to be was a small chip or 2 that work alongside the Artica-S to fix a couple of hardware bugs.
Already fixed with a similar chip on the AmigaOne, btw. But no name was given to this chip that fixes one of the problems with the Artica-S at least. That is what Alan meant, and you completely misunderstood.
It is kind of an insult to the Amiga, which named big chips with the names, Alice, Agnes, Paula, etc. Did each of the CIA's have a name? April is just a small fix-chip until the Artica-S is released with a new stepping that fixes the problem internally. It happens all the time on motherboards.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 67 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 16:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (mahen):
I have to say that IMHO he's gone too low.. But perhaps it's cause he has nothing else left. He has shown no real info concerning this April thingy, have not been able to dismiss it efficiently and now lately moved to personal attacks against other peoples Past and History.
I can't judge what have happened on old days cause those shady deals have been going on years (since PUP/wos fights at least.. if not longer) and I have not been able to locate any bigger Amiga-releated company that had no Mud on them. (and this includes all existing name and no-name makers). Only some smaller companies have been able to stay away and keep themselves clean...
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 68 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 16:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Anonymous):
The April chip is more a word game than a serious thing !
"without april, mai wouldn't work".
But it's supposed to add a few functionalities : we'll see this week
end
I agree that things were exaggerated...
But maybe not ? We really lack many tech info. Maybe bplan (ehm,
genesi) really knows much more than hyperion&eyetech...
I really don't know, and most people here don't either.
So we should really be reasonable and wait instead.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 69 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 16:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (JoannaK):
I don't think it is as low as posting confidential e-mails on public forums however.
I just think that Alan has had enough of the BS that is going around at the moment.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 70 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (mahen):
(I don't remember the exact quote, but you got the idea :)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 71 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Anonymous):
We don't know if it is bullshit. Everyone should calm down.
But it's indeed a bit too much and unecessary...
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 72 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 06-Dec-2002 16:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (JoannaK):
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/22808
Jeebus! He hits rock bottom and starts up the drill to go further.
Though digging up those links was probably the work of his favorite "developer", anencephalic_crackpot or whatever. She can't code and doesn't know the first thing about hardware, just like Alan, but she's great at digging in business registries about competitors, and presenting it as if the found info meant something negative.
Hm. The societe.com link has been followed in this browser before. Aah, yes, previously posted by anorectal_crackpot on amiga.org. What a surprise. Not remotely interesting or relevant then, same thing now. What's interesting is that Alan is trying to use it in his marketing.
Alan, STFU and just sell the stuff you're buying. You've got your little "Amiga" monopoly now. Be happy as long as it lasts.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 73 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ikez on 06-Dec-2002 16:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (mahen):
So... if u know nothing, your Statement worse nothing.
ikez
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 74 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 16:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Anonymous):
I just gave a link, I don't like copying messages aroud.. Read it and love it.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 75 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 06-Dec-2002 16:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Lawd):
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/22808
> Jeebus! He hits rock bottom and starts up the drill to go further.
Is this for real? The guy seems to be loosing it totally IMHO.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 76 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ikez on 06-Dec-2002 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Lawd):
ok, so lvl is low ... me too then
Lawd i don't care what u say, you just another troll on ann. You can't even read statements with critics. Both sides have made statement, and the one af alan is just an answeer to the more low of bbvr, so please ...
ikez
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 77 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ikez on 06-Dec-2002 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (takemehomegrandma):
read 76 ...
ikez
nb: some of your post are interresting though
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 78 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 06-Dec-2002 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (takemehomegrandma):
Jeez, and I use to have some respect for Alan.
Dammy
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 79 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Mostafa on 06-Dec-2002 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 78 (dammy):
What pointing out what people have done in the past is a crime then is it?
but then again what most of what Genesi (sp?) are doing are a lot worse, actual insults on public websites, as well as threats to people and companies ("We will commence legal action against Amiga Inc. this month" just in case anyone forgot and I know your going to say AI are threating aswell but the have not publically named anyone anywhere), whilst trying to be the nice guy be saying they want to work with everyone in the world! (my words not theirs but you should be able to get the idea)
I admit that it is not the best way of doing business (waht Alan has posted),
but then again it is on a mailing list (where information is USUALLY all personal opinions and also tend to be answers to what people have to ask on it)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 80 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Mostafa):
I disagree. BBRV's post was a "too much", but Alan's
post is definitely desesperate and low.
Dunno what's better.
So please, wait for the aachen show and see what's released...
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 81 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Mostafa on 06-Dec-2002 17:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (mahen):
Actually that is exactly what I was going to do, as it seems the only way to shut up all the idiots/critics/zealots (from both sides), and of course thouse who are genuinly concerned about getting a board that does not work properly,
As there will also be a Early Bird (I think it will be anyway as I cant tell from the news item below)) mb should be available via KDH at the show so old A1 aswell as these can be tested useing Genesi's method to check for these so called faults.
See here if you want to see what I mean http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2002-12-00053-EN.html
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 82 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Mostafa on 06-Dec-2002 17:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Mostafa):
I really should stop speed typing as I seem to have so many spelling mistakes all over the place ;-)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 83 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 06-Dec-2002 17:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Mostafa):
> actual insults on public websites,
I agree with you that there has been some "insults" on public websites from BBRV, but I can not recall that it has ever been unprovoced. I would say that those "insults" merely were responses to *even worse* insults from individuals on sites like this one. But nevertheless, it gives quite a bad impression when corporate representatives decends into that kind of mud slinging. That goes for BBRV, and the same goes for Alan as well ...
> as well as threats to people and companies ("We will commence legal action
> against Amiga Inc. this month" just in case anyone forgot
Somehow I don't thinkt that was an empty threat. We will see. But Amiga Inc *has* claimed that Thendic/Bplan/Genesi has violated their IP, and they have not been able to back those accusations up. Those accusations has propably caused Genesi some damage. If Amiga Inc can't prove their accusations, then I guess AInc have deserved what's coming ...
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 84 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 06-Dec-2002 18:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (mahen):
I agree totally. Alan is obviously under some preassure. I mean, think about the mans situation. He has propably invested a great deal of time and money into this Teron thing, not to talk about the prestige. I wish he could stop burning bridges. Emotions are one thing, and rational business is another. The more personal/emotional this whole thing gets, the more difficult will it be to initiate a cooperation. I wish this mudslinging could stop. I wish they just could sit down and talk some "common survival strategies". I wish that we would have a white christmas.
BBRV: "We can forget the past if you can. We need to get into the same boat." And: "We don't have to trade sources or get Ralph having a beer with Ben, but we could all move ahead this way."
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 85 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 06-Dec-2002 18:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Mostafa):
> What pointing out what people have done in the past is a crime then is it?
No. But that's not the only thing that Alan did in his postings on the Teron mailing list. VIScorp doesn't exist, and what happened 6-8 years ago with that company is irrelevant. Not that I have blind faith in any company or company owner or CEO (that'd be f-cking harmful), NO COMMERCIAL ENTITY does things "for the community" or whatever.
Read Alan's posts again, especially #22808.
"They certainly have noisier ones [testers and developers], but, apart from the 2 or 3 full time bplan employees, there run-of-the mill developers have nowhere near as much experience as our developers/testers (IMO of course - mustn't make too bold a statement on a public list ;-)"
Eyetech has NO hardware developers (not on a logic and PCB design level like is required for e.g. motherboard design and testing, Eyetech solders keyboard adapters and flickerfixers), NO hardware of their own, and their testers are anyone who bought the Teron CX evaluation board, the "developer A1-SE".
The above statement can only be described as "true" for very small values of "true". Above all it's an insult, and it has sweet FA to do with Alan's business, selling other companies' products. "Run-of-the-mill developers"???
This is immediately followed by:
"My point is that for the 7500euro incorporated company that Thendic is, they are either vastly overplaying these problems (my view) or they have just made themselves insolvent with an admitted ~$500,000 financial liability."
What the F-CK does that have to to in a thread about "Re: Articia patch"? What the f-ck does it have to do with the bplan and Mai engineers' competence in finding and fixing bugs? What the hell does the minimum capital required to register a company have to do with the products from one subsidiary of Pretory and Genesi? This is the very definition of FUD (an acronym that some people are so fond of throwing around without justification): spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt about a competitor and his products in your own marketing.
> but then again what most of what Genesi (sp?) are doing are a lot worse,
> actual insults on public websites, as well as threats to people and companies
> ("We will commence legal action against Amiga Inc. this month"
I saw BBRV say that *Amiga, Inc.* are incompetent. We all know that this is sadly true from their (in-)actions, statements and product f-ckups and absence, but it's low by BBRV to say it in public. This does however not excuse Alan, from *Eyetech*, going on with this totally uncalled for, irrelevant and insulting CRAP. Eyetech is just a reseller, they could just as well sell Pegasoses or electric insulation
What's "threatening" about saying that they'll commence legal action against Amiga, Inc? Sounds like a promise to me. A clear, unambiguous statement (apart from "why"?). Unlike saying "some evil guys have stolen from us, we won't say who, what, how and why, we'll leave that for you to speculate on, and if these thieves <hint hint nudge nudge> won't do whatever it is we want them to do, we'll shut them down" - and then NOT do anything, which seems to be at least a contributing factor in the death of Amithlon.
> whilst trying to be the nice guy be saying they want to work with everyone in
> the world!
Anyone but *Amiga, Inc.*, which is the only company that would be on the receiving end of this legal action.
> but then again it is on a mailing list (where information is USUALLY all
> personal opinions and also tend to be answers to what people have to ask on
> it)
A public forum, exactly like the reply BBRV posted in a discussion on amiga.org, another public forum.
I agree that Amiga Inc. needs to be forgotten about ASAP, let them play with their Tao stuff (but without raping the "Amiga" name for it), good luck, but I'm not sure about who'd be the best to take over and won't speculate on that.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 86 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 18:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Lawd):
> Eyetech is just a reseller, they could just as well sell Pegasoses or electric
> insulation
I wasn't finished with that sentence. :-)
... just as well sell Pegasoses or electric insulation tape as Teron boards. One thing doesn't exclude the other.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 87 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by ikez on 06-Dec-2002 18:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Lawd):
You convince yourself and only morph zealot, and you boring.
ikez
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 88 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 06-Dec-2002 18:58 GMT
Well for me this fix annoucement has only been mentioned at this moment in time for only one reason.
To get has much PR for the show & to get as some ppl doubt about the Aone & to sway ppl to buy a pegasos.
I do not care who found the bugs
I do not care who fixed them.
All i care about is that the fixes are put in place & mobos that dont have them can be sent back to be fixed or replaced.
I will not bother to post on this thread again as i have better things to do.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 89 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 06-Dec-2002 19:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Anonymous):
>Did each of the CIA's have a name?
"Gary", IIRC.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 90 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by elektrobeer on 06-Dec-2002 19:42 GMT
wbstartup
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 91 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 06-Dec-2002 19:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (David Scheibler):
it really is broken record time for you isnt it ;-)
stop living in the past (and i do mean 6 months ago) and grow up, please !
i thought you advocated a more professional view to comducting yourself and the 'MOS camp view' ;-)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 92 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 06-Dec-2002 19:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (ZaP):
These chips are 2.5ns ones... FAST enough not to slow down critical stuff.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 93 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 06-Dec-2002 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Wrong, 2.2ns.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 94 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 06-Dec-2002 20:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (David Scheibler):
Of course, maybe the bug they fixed ain't a bug with the Mai chip at all, but a bug with the way the Pegasos communicates with it ;-)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 95 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (TheArrogantSarny):
We'll see someday soon. During that April-chip making they have (rumour.. can't confirm 100%) generated simple and effective stress-tests that will show IF there are same problems on A-ones.
Besides.. I have this feeling there may well be somethig else on those chips beoynd this now announced bugfix.
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 96 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 06-Dec-2002 20:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (JoannaK):
Yeah, like a dongle for MorphOS ;-)
/me runs ;-)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 97 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 06-Dec-2002 20:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (JoannaK):
> Besides.. I have this feeling there may well be somethig else on those chips
> beoynd this now announced bugfix.
Perhaps, but hardly a 2003 version of the copper/blitter. The previous speculations about the April were perhaps a little too hopeful ...
:-)
But it's those little things that counts! An advantage of having in-house competence of hardware developing is the control over the products performance. If it "only" is about some fine-tuning, then it stills makes it stand out of the competition (even more)!
:-)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 98 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Dec-2002 20:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (TheArrogantSarny):
LOL
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 99 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Dec-2002 20:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (takemehomegrandma):
> > Besides.. I have this feeling there may well be somethig else on those chips
> > beoynd this now announced bugfix.
> Perhaps, but hardly a 2003 version of the copper/blitter. The previous
> speculations about the April were perhaps a little too hopeful ...:-)
Well.. considering the tone it was announced it's not wonder people started to thow all imaginable ideas on th air. Speculations like USB2 and some other even wilder ideas have been heard.
But after seeing photo of those chips (including their full names) it was quite obvious they are not for that grade of system extension. Besides Copper/blitter ought to be on GFX-card and access Gfx-hw to be usefull, and that's not where this April is.
> But it's those little things that counts! An advantage of having in-house
> competence of hardware developing is the control over the products
> performance. If it "only" is about some fine-tuning, then it stills makes
> it stand out of the competition (even more)! :-)
I heard kinda interesting rumours about it's uses beoynd fixing some known (+some lesser obvious) stability issues of PCI busses. BUT I'm not to repeat them cause if it's true then it's going to quite big bang to some. I'm quite sure we know a lot more in about next 12-16 hours. Afterall I'm not expecting to keep these secrets anymore than necessary :)
Pictures of ArticiaS and April chip : Comment 100 of 146ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 06-Dec-2002 20:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (ikez):
What an interesting comment.
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