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[News] Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former AttorneysANN.lu
Posted on 02-Oct-2003 05:11 GMT by Rich Woods (Edited on 2003-10-02 07:15:20 GMT by Christian Kemp)427 comments
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Amiga's Attorneys Are Granted Leave Leaving Amiga with NO Legal Representation. "This court hereby orders, judges and decrees, that Diana S. Shukis, Stephen P. VanDerhoef & Cairncross & Hempelmann P.S. may withdraw as counsel of record for Defendant Amiga, Inc. The withdrawal is effective immediately upon entry of this Order.

DONE IN OPEN COURT this 30th day of September, 2003.

/s/

Robert S. Lasnik"

Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 151 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 02-Oct-2003 12:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 144 (Mikey C):
*gähn*
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 152 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Oct-2003 12:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Mikey C):
Ok, I won't go any further, you're a troll... I had a totally civilised conversation with MikeB and declared cease fire... Do whatever you want,
I'm off... I'm real and summoned by no human or god in this universe.
I have a brain of my own. Make your own conclusions please, based on my
words and not your opinion about me. If you can't, please do not even
reply and I'll drop off totally...
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 153 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (Ketzer):
> Was this ever directed at morhpos?

Try googling for messages made public from some mailing lists. I'd link, but
they were intended as private and I wouldn't want to be responsible for exposing
"secrets".

(I'm playing the Mikey_C card :D)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 154 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Oct-2003 12:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Mikey C):
"Get legal or be shut down!"
"...September 1st..."
"...while recompiling AmigaOS3.1 code."

These are my last words in that thread, goodbye.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 155 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 146 (T_Bone):
> As for me being prejudiced, I'm afraid not. I have no stake in Amiga Inc OR Genesi, although I plan on purchasing both. What about you?

You dont need to care for Genesi or anything else to be prejudiced about something different.

As for me and morphos. Why should I bother? For a more elaborate but perfectly matching explanation of why I dont care see Dave Haynies interview.

> Hell, its the people who've "Already made their mind up" which product they will buy that are predjudiced, that's what it MEANS man, look it up!

*I* see several possibilities, *you* dont, tell me again who is prejudiced?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 156 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (Ketzer):
> So maybe someone else is paying them on Amiga's behalf?

Are you accusing Amiga of money laundering to avoid Federal Court order?
I certainly HOPE that's not what's happening! Amiga never revealed these "someone elses" in court discovery!
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 157 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 153 (T_Bone):
See? what I say in private is hardly FUD except some idiot comes up and posts this publicly without my consent.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 158 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 155 (Ketzer):
I already told you, I plan on purchasing both.
You have your mind made up already, Merriam Webster say's your "prejudiced"
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 159 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 156 (T_Bone):
"money laundering" .. lol .. not prejudiced, right? .. again, slowly .. Someone else, with that someone elses money could support Amiga by paying their lawyers, for example this could be one of the investors.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 160 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 153 (T_Bone):
Okay T-Bone, you have my full attention, what should I search for?


Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 161 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 157 (Ketzer):
> See? what I say in private is hardly FUD except some idiot comes up and posts
> this publicly without my consent.

I agree, that's why I didn't link it or quote it.

However, it still proves my point about Genesi being under Amiga's "Get legal or be shut down" umbrella.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 162 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 160 (Mikey C):
Show me the Masonic handshake first :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 163 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (T_Bone):
Sure, I dont want to spend hundreds of € on a system im not even remotely interested in, prejudice if you want. Everything else has been said.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 164 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (T_Bone):
Mikey C

Fine, I was hoping to be led to evidence that everything I have seen or heard was a pack of lies.

I guess I`ll carry on believing it then :)


Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 165 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 12:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 117 (Mikey C):
> Please feel free to keep sluring my charecter Dammy. I haven`t posted any
> lies on here, but I know you are trying to dicredit my good name.

Yes you have, you liar. You stated quiet clearly I have a Pegasos, I do not.

> Won`t work you know, first of all, no one on this forum has an ounce
> of respect for you, even your fellow MOS users shun you.

Lie #2, Great Spirit, you are stupid. I don't have a Peg therefore, I don't run MOS.

> The only person you can actually turn to comfort for is EVA. There is
> nothing remotely likeable about you.

Unlike you, I don't lie. You really do try to become the biggest laughing stock of ANN. Give you credit for that, your consistant.

> The minute you turn up every one else goes silent.

Gee, I was an early poster of this 100 post thread. Figure the above is gotta be lie #3.

> For myself I will say this, I work really hard to do positive stuff for
> the Amiga community, I help organise shows, promote a Magazine, run a
> usergroup, etc, etc. You and your buddy Eva, do nothing but whine and
> destroy. You are dishonest, a liar, a troll and a totally pathetic human
> being.

Sorry for catching you in so many lies in one thread Mike, but I'm not going to allow you to keep on lying about me. Mike, please contact your mental health provider, you are in dire need of their assistance.

> Please feel free to continue attacking me, your comments are akin to a
> chihuahua attacking an elephant. Ineffective

So sad seeing someone suffer from delusions when help is only a phone call away. Come on Mike, use that BoingBall covered cellphone and make that call, they really do want to help you.

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 166 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 02-Oct-2003 12:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (T_Bone):
lmao :-)

Put your hands together interlocked finger to make a boing ball, bounce it up
and down 3 times.

It's good this being selective about who you bother to reply to. :-)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 167 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (T_Bone):
Im afraid, no it doesnt. Thats not what Amiga as a corporation said. That is what you and many others think they said because someone illegaly published private correspondance. If you want to accuse anyone of FUD, accuse the person that published those mails.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 168 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 165 (dammy):
> Dammy

You dont even have a pegasos yet? Not enough useful Amiga bashing yet? scnr
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 169 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 12:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (T_Bone):
Do Not Link To It!!!!!
they will shut down the mirror!!!!
you say too much!!
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 170 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Ketzer):
>> Do you have actual proof that Amiga Inc has been paying their counsel or
>>is this just more Mike's lies?

>> Dammy

> Funny, do you have proof they did not or is that just more lies by you?

Did I state something as fact in the above or is asking a question a lie? How strange, Mike post on here bold face lies and you say nothing. I ask a question and all of a sudden, I'm lying. Go figure.

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 171 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 12:37 GMT
What do you expect when this guy is a moderator on Amiga Incs public relations website.

Community portal my ass.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 172 of 427ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 165 (dammy):
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Personal insult, trolling
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 173 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (dammy):
Thats because I already know you from other discussions.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 174 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 12:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (Ketzer):
> So maybe someone else is paying them on Amiga's behalf?

Sure hope they are claiming that as revenue on their taxes. Oh, that's right, they haven't filed their IRS forms for how many years now?

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 175 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 171 (Anonymous):
Anonymous Troll talking out of ass :)

even worse.

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 176 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 174 (dammy):
Sure, come up with more accusations you have no intention of proving.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 177 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 167 (Ketzer):
> Im afraid, no it doesnt. Thats not what Amiga as a corporation said. That is
> what you and many others think they said because someone illegaly published
> private correspondance. If you want to accuse anyone of FUD, accuse the person
> that published those mails.

Hmmm... this is getting interesting, as I don't believe you and I are talking about the same thing!

If you are trying to make me curious, you've succeeded! :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 178 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 164 (Mikey C):
> Fine, I was hoping to be led to evidence that everything I have seen or heard
> was a pack of lies.
> I guess I`ll carry on believing it then :)

I've heard that somewhere before :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 179 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 176 (Ketzer):
> Sure, come up with more accusations you have no intention of proving.

What, that they arn't paying taxes? Heck you don't even NEED Rich Woods to know that! That can be found on the web! State and Federal!

Not that I hold that against them in any way... Down with the FED!!! :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 180 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 178 (T_Bone):
So have I, but I guess I`ll never find out.

N/M Perhaps it is just FUD from the opposing camp

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 181 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 12:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 168 (Ketzer):
> You dont even have a pegasos yet?

That's right! Atleast you can comprehend that fact that I do not own a Pegasos. Unlike Mike who continues to lie about me owning own. Perhaps you can explain the delusional MikeC that Dammy doesn't do PPC. Dammy is over in the AROS camp, which is mostly X86 and soon to be x86-64. You see, I know this will shock you and Mike will claim it's a lie, but I'm in full agreement with Dave H., PPC is a poor choice for desktops. PPC may be a good embedded CPU, but I'm not impressed with it as a desktop or server CPU. If you want a PPC system, be it a A1 or Peg, go for it. The only PPC I would buy would be an embedded system.

<snip>

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 182 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 02-Oct-2003 12:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 172 (Mikey C):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
As a matter of fact, everything about you is contemptible.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Even his fund raising efforts for AROS? oh yeah, of course because AROS is not Amiga, right? How contemptable he promotes a free operating system for the community.... You really are weird Mikey... :-?

Run along now, it's getting near your bed time.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 183 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 02-Oct-2003 12:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 172 (Mikey C):
Mikey C,

I have NEVER seen Dammy say he has a Pegasos - and I am occasionally in contact with him because of his bounty work with AROS, which has some relevance to Phoenix as we are also associating with AROS with a bounty for porting AROS to the Pegasos. Indeed, if Dammy has a Pegasos it likely would have come up in emails between AROS and Phoenix and Dammy's Team AROS.

Additionally, Dammy has never gotten a Pegasos through any Phoenix developer seeding offer, and I've seen the names of those who have gotten Pegasos boards - Dammy's name is not on the list.

To the best of my knowledge Dammy has never claimed on any public forum that he has a Pegasos.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 184 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 177 (T_Bone):
> If you are trying to make me curious, you've succeeded! :D

You know, thats the problem. If one is quiet, the other is free to plant ideas, nourished by others for whatever reason, which eventually can reach a tight grip on people.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 185 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 180 (Mikey C):
> So have I, but I guess I`ll never find out.

Heck, I'd just assumed you were ON the mailing list and already had access to it. I stand corrected.

> N/M Perhaps it is just FUD from the opposing camp

I've heard that somewhere before too :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 186 of 427ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 182 (Matt Parsons):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Profanity
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 187 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 181 (dammy):
>> You dont even have a pegasos yet?
> That's right! Atleast you can comprehend that fact that I do not own a Pegasos. Unlike Mike who continues to lie about me owning own. Perhaps you can explain the delusional MikeC that Dammy doesn't do PPC. Dammy is over in the AROS camp, which is mostly X86 and soon to be x86-64. You see, I know this will shock you and Mike will claim it's a lie, but I'm in full agreement with Dave H., PPC is a poor choice for desktops. PPC may be a good embedded CPU, but I'm not impressed with it as a desktop or server CPU. If you want a PPC system, be it a A1 or Peg, go for it. The only PPC I would buy would be an embedded system.
> Dammy

Hey, that I hear you, doesnt mean that I believe you. Its just funny considering certain things you said.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 188 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Oct-2003 12:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 177 (T_Bone):
@T_Bone

The "Get legal or be shut down" umbrella is a virtual one. They made the threat deliberately vague as to include anyone who might have reason to think they were targetted. The reality is that no action was planned and no action was undertaken. The excuse of "these things take time" was a smokescreen.

Potential targets included a number of companies, some obvious and some less so, but Amiga Inc were not in a financial position to take action against anyone, so they deliberately kept their threats vague.

Cerianly Amiga Inc personnel are still making the "MorphOS is illegal" claims in "private" to their chosen followers, knowing that those followers will then carry the battle cry into the public fray.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 189 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Johan Rönnblom):
But Johan, come on, aren`t you doing a school thesis on Genesi the company?

Surely you still remain neutral

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 190 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 188 (Bill Hoggett):
> The "Get legal or be shut down" umbrella is a virtual one. They made the threat deliberately vague as to include anyone who might have reason to think they were targetted. The reality is that no action was planned and no action was undertaken. The excuse of "these things take time" was a smokescreen.
> Potential targets included a number of companies, some obvious and some less so, but Amiga Inc were not in a financial position to take action against anyone, so they deliberately kept their threats vague.

Very likely, though only an opinion.

> Cerianly Amiga Inc personnel are still making the "MorphOS is illegal" claims in "private" to their chosen followers, knowing that those followers will then carry the battle cry into the public fray.

Sadly, you couldnt resist putting this poor excuse for a joke in an otherwise useful post. Its legal state is questionable just because its very similar and there are *very* varying copyright laws across the world. Is this of any importance (currently)? No.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 191 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 13:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 185 (T_Bone):
Well there you have it I`m not on whatever mailing list you are on about.

No need to make misinformed statements

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 192 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 13:07 GMT
You guys say it is ok for Amiga Inc to steal peoples money so it is ok for people to pirate Amiga software (including the AOS sources)?

The next time i see some Amiga software i want then i will download a pirate copy knowing full well stealing from Amiga users is acceptable.

Everyone download software from alt.binaries.warez.amiga as it is ok. (OS3.9 is on there atm)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 193 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 192 (Anonymous):
> You guys say it is ok for Amiga Inc to steal peoples money so it is ok for people to pirate Amiga software (including the AOS sources)?
> The next time i see some Amiga software i want then i will download a pirate copy knowing full well stealing from Amiga users is acceptable.
> Everyone download software from alt.binaries.warez.amiga as it is ok. (OS3.9 is on there atm)

Idiot.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 194 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Rassilon on 02-Oct-2003 13:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 116 (itix):
@itix

I must have a bad way of wording things because people always seem to misunderstand my posts.

My request was people to stop slagging off Amiga Inc based on a half finished court case where no judgement has been made.

Its not arse licking or anything else, its my way of saying 'try and remain objective and not get bogged down by the fud spewed by the few'.

Rassilon
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 195 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 13:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 192 (Anonymous):
> You guys say it is ok for Amiga Inc to steal peoples money so it is ok for
> people to pirate Amiga software (including the AOS sources)?

Are you saying someone pirated the AOS sources?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 196 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 194 (Rassilon):
> My request was people to stop slagging off Amiga Inc based on a half finished
> court case where no judgement has been made.

Stating that this is "bad news" isn't slagging off of Amiga.
It's bad news when your legal representation dissapears, leaving you undefended in
a Federal court case.

It doesn't necessarily mean Amiga are helpless, or that this is "the end", but this is most certainly "bad news"
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 197 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Rassilon on 02-Oct-2003 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (T_Bone):
@T_Bone

You mentioned that amiga inc requested Genesi 'Get legal or shutdown'

Let me put it to you this way:

If a rival company to your own APPEARED to have abused your intelectual property, and other people were telling you the same, would you not request that they prove otherwise?

Perhaps amiga inc could have phrased it better, but competition has a way of making enemies.

It basically a case of covering you're own back, because if you don't some one will shoot you init (as in pinch your IP).

Rassilon
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 198 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Oct-2003 13:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 190 (Ketzer):
@Ketzer

> Very likely, though only an opinion.

No. The lack of legal action against those they threatened with the "1st of September 2002" deadline is fact, not opinion.

> Sadly, you couldnt resist putting this poor excuse for a joke in an
> otherwise useful post.

Wrong. The deliberate rumours started by Amiga Inc personnel in private communication with their dedicated supporters is no joke.

> Its legal state is questionable just because its very similar

"Very similar" is not covered by copyright law. The "questionable" part is a claim, not a fact.

> and there are *very* varying copyright laws across the world.

???

What would some obscure Tanzanian law have to do with any of this? Unless the issue is covered by US and European Union copyright laws, it's irrelevant.

> Is this of any importance (currently)? No.

It's easily as important as any of your comments in this thread.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 199 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 13:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 197 (Rassilon):
> If a rival company to your own APPEARED to have abused your intelectual
> property, and other people were telling you the same, would you not request that
> they prove otherwise?

No, you are not required to prove innocense. You are required to prove guilt.

That's beside the point anyway, my point was that Amiga started the stone throwing, not Genesi.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 200 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 13:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 188 (Bill Hoggett):
" The "Get legal or be shut down" umbrella is a virtual one. They made the threat deliberately vague as to include anyone who might have reason to think they were targetted."

Of course, that much should be obvious to everyone. But while we remember the vague accusations, don't forget the direct ones, like:

"Amiga compatability within MorphOS comes from illegally obtained source tapes and we will use all legal process to prevent it from entering the market."
- Fleecy Moss at http://ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=news&file=1021933028.msg

"SJ: Will you stop their works or will you let them to continue their MorphOS development?
FM: I would be very happy to involve them in the team advancing the Amiga. If they chose to do their own thing and are doing nothing illegal, then they should have nothing to worry about."

- Fleecy again, at http://jediamiga.online.fr/AMIGA_FOR_EVER/Textes/
Interviews/fleecy-amiga-newsde050401.html (URL split to not mess up page layout)
That's the way to welcome cooperation, while not trying to hint at alleged illegalities, right? "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

And that's just a couple of Fleecy quotes. Now have fun posting Peake, McEwen and Hermans quotes! :'D

"Anything to do with MorphOS and its 'amiga compatability' will be decided, so it seems, in the courts."

LOL! It sure seems like that, finally, although I don't think /this/ is quite what fleecy had in mind! Suck it hard. You've had it coming for ages.
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