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In a thread titled "How many unpaid Genesi employees?" on Moo Bunny, Johan Rönnblom posted his story.
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 51 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous coward on 27-Feb-2004 14:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
" but WE DO NEED every company that still backs the Amiga community, be it the spirit, be it because they love it, be it because they think it's right. "
I don't need a company which splitted the Amiga community into 2 camps, creating a sect with trusted and non trusted peoples, sending spies to the 'other camps' and tries to demolish the others just for winning. I don't need a company which splits the developers by sending them some candy for free and force them to work only for that company and force them to refuse any connection try with the other company.
I also do not need a company which pointing to the other one "they cannot pay their employees" while they are in the same situation.
I also do not need a company which spends more money for lawers than paying it's employees.
I also do not need a company which creates FUD's to demolish the other ones, instead of working hard to create their own stuff.
Try to guess which company am I talked here.
I need a community where everybody works, everybody shares information, nobody want to kill the other one just because it has different opinion. But I'm afraid this community has been killed by a company which separated the peoples into two camps (if you aren't with us, you are enemies) and killed an old friendship.
Make peace, no war! |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 52 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 14:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
>>Genesi did a lot of stuff in the past 1-2 years to re-animate this community.
Yeah and now we're finding out most of it was underhanded and illegal. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 53 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 14:44 GMT | | And funding a development, research and pr staff and shows, phreeboards and all that from the sales of an underpriced, undervolumed product, yeah, right. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 54 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Leif on 27-Feb-2004 14:46 GMT | In reply to Comment 51 (Anonymous coward):
"Make peace, no war!"
Stop FUDing then. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 55 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by oGALAXYo on 27-Feb-2004 14:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 50 (Ketzer):
> > Genesi did a lot of stuff in the past 1-2 years to re-animate
> > this community.
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> They did it for themselves, themselves and only themselves. And
> even part of "them" got shafted.
If so, who are we to judge about all this ? Of course they did this for themselves in first case because it's their business, their help to get this movement going and everything they have done they stomped out of their own. Sure there was help from bPlan and the people involved (we shouldn't forget this).
Think it that way you could have done this on your own too. Create a company and get someone who made PowerPC boards and then sell them, do the marketing, do jump in a plane and fly to all types of countries convincing people about your product and and and.. YES they did it for themselves but they also did it for us. We need them, they need us its a good symbiosis. They gave this community what they was waiting for - for nearly 10 years of stagnation and yet there are a bunch of people without social life who make an harrassment out of it just for the fact that it hasn't a boingball glued ontop of it. They feel offened because it could be a possible future for the Amiga movement but for the freaking sake it does harm their picture of this world.
People should re-consider. If they don't like it then be it that way, no one will whine if you DO NOT buy Genesi products, no one really cares either. It's all and alone your own moneybag and decision if you want to do so or not.
In an ideal world I would welcome if people would get a social life, do some productive stuff to get this community moving again and do support either AROS, AOS4 and MorphOS. Now even with the open source movement AND the free software movement (2 different things) we can benefit even more since these movements are not limited to Linux only it's the philosophy that matters. We can get a lot of good stuff onto our systems and make it become popular again. But no there are still a lot of people outside (again the same types of people) who complain because it's Linux junk that no one wants. No instead cooperating with the open source movement and use good bits they - (not even knowing howto code a shit) complain because they want some own native PowerPC stuff not being stained with the bad influence of Linux (like it was Aids or Malaria) or something.
Well think about it. You people are still stuck in the 90's and on my calendar I read 2004. Best thing is getting work done, work that is necessary. Port software as much you can so we can all benefit from it. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 56 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by oGALAXYo on 27-Feb-2004 14:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 51 (Anonymous coward):
> I don't need a company which splitted the Amiga community into 2 camps, creating
> a sect with trusted and non trusted peoples, sending spies to the 'other camps'
> and tries to demolish the others just for winning.
The only ones that split the Amiga community are people who have nothing better to do than shouting out a lot of shit. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 57 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by oGALAXYo on 27-Feb-2004 14:57 GMT | In reply to Comment 52 (Agima):
> > Genesi did a lot of stuff in the past 1-2 years to re-animate this community.
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> Yeah and now we're finding out most of it was underhanded and illegal.
Oh yeah I forgot you are a lwayer and can value all this. Is this your own opinion, your real knowledge or the repeated junk that other people spread in the public ?
You know it's like this:
1) It's known that the grandmother is ill
2) Someone else tells the neighbour that the grandmother is in coma
3) Someone else agains tell someone else that the grnadmother is near dead
4) Someone else says that the near dead grandmother has made a testament to their kids
5) Someone else spreads the rumour that the kids are in war each other because they claim legal stuff about grandmothers testament
At the end the story has changed so much that noone really knows how it initially was. And initially it was just the grandmother who got an light influence. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 58 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 14:59 GMT | In reply to Comment 53 (Ketzer):
yeah, all the announced phreeboards we haven't got |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 59 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 15:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 55 (oGALAXYo):
> If so, who are we to judge about all this ?
We? The consumers, the developers, the be-all and end-all to them.
> We need them, they need us its a good symbiosis.
No, we dont need them. No business ethics, no business with me. This is beyond simply not being able. And this community would be a much saner place without them.
> Well think about it. You people are still stuck in the 90's and on my calendar I read 2004. Best thing is getting work done, work that is necessary. Port software as much you can so we can all benefit from it.
Being short on cash i can accept, being short on ethics I cant. If these are good business practices to you, youre welcome to continue your preaching somewhere else. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 60 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 15:04 GMT | In reply to Comment 57 (oGALAXYo):
> At the end the story has changed so much that noone really knows how it initially was. And initially it was just the grandmother who got an light influence.
Sure. We're dealing with first hand personal accounts though. Its finally come out. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 61 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by oGALAXYo on 27-Feb-2004 15:05 GMT | In reply to Comment 59 (Ketzer):
Ketzer do you have a life ? Maybe you go out search a girlfriend or something. Then you realize that your penis can be used also for other things than peeing. The smell and taste of real pussy rather than enjoying the left or right hand. This will make you calm down, this will make other calm down too (if they try it) and this will definately open a new world for you (and others too if they try so). Really I haven't read so much bullshit as I did in this entire thread. (I rarely read ANN because of all the junk people write). |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 62 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 15:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 61 (oGALAXYo):
> Ketzer do you have a life ?
Why, do you? Having run out of anything useful to say? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 63 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by on 27-Feb-2004 15:18 GMT | In reply to Comment 61 (oGALAXYo):
Have you got your Genesi paycheck or are you hoping your words will earn you a bonus? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 64 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by oGALAXYo on 27-Feb-2004 15:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 63 ():
No, I don't get any paycheck nor did I get anything else. I am a neutral person usually and I try to avoid flames if possible. I am only tired of all this shit be it anti AmigaINC rants or anti Genesi rants. Reading all this stuff only cause pain and headache for me (that's why I usually avoid such threads or reading ANN in general). I wanted to make you people clear that we need each other to look into a good future. Be it the Amiga or the Pegasos. Bet it AmigaOS, MorphOS or AROS since we all share the same roots.
I was in the #amigaworld IRC channel some days ago and felt bad about doing so because my first impression would be that there are a lot of evil people who only want to badmouth everything. But no I was there and had a productive and very fine discussion with a lot of them. And yes it is possible to get along with MorphOS and AmigaOS and yes it is even possible to have normal conversations. There is NO and I mean it NO reasons for all this crap. At the end you people are responsible for what you do (or if you harm your own community) it's YOU at the end who are responsible if you support all this junk or not. The problems companies have with their employees or who wins what court may be informative but it shouldn't be abused. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 65 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 27-Feb-2004 15:43 GMT | I'm not on a Genesi payroll (obviously) and I think galaxy expressed
himself well here if we exclude comment 61.
If people don't want to buy a Peg2 because they are too cheap, that's
their decision. If they don't want to do business with Genesi because
they dislike BBRV, fine with me. Personally I think Ben H is a clown
and certainly Neko is a total arsehole on IRC, forums and
mailinglists, but these people don't decide what I'm going to do. I'll
get a Peg2 in a couple of months when I can justify the cost. I'll
have a good look at OS4, I don't have high expectations but I'd be
happy to be positively surprised. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 66 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 15:55 GMT | In reply to Comment 65 (Johan Rönnblom):
> but these people don't decide what I'm going to do.
Correct. They only give you pointers.
> I'll get a Peg2 in a couple of months when I can justify the cost.
Maybe youre lucky and do get paid after all. Please dont get me wrong, I cincerely hope you will.
> I'll have a good look at OS4, I don't have high expectations but I'd be
happy to be positively surprised.
While I really cant understand youre willingness to support that bb person direct or indirect, and Im sure you have your reasons for not liking hyperion/eyetech, thats your opinion. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 67 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 15:55 GMT | In reply to Comment 55 (oGALAXYo):
If so, who are we to judge about all this ?
The community. All persons that lead a community are under bombs when bad things happens.
Of course they did this for themselves in first case because it's their business, their help to get this movement going and everything they have done they stomped out of their own. Sure there was help from bPlan and the people involved (we shouldn't forget this).
Men. Genesi and related are actors of the community. I won't go deeper into explanations, but for shure many of us here think genesi/thendic done more damage than good to the community int he last two years. I don't talk about morphos or pegasos, or telling these are bad systems or whatever else, but I'm talking about the thendic and genesi compagnies and their management. Don't mix the trick.
Think it that way you could have done this on your own too. Create a company and get someone who made PowerPC boards and then sell them, do the marketing, do jump in a plane and fly to all types of countries convincing people about your product and and and.. YES they did it for themselves but they also did it for us. We need them, they need us its a good symbiosis. They gave this community what they was waiting for - for nearly 10 years of stagnation
Yes but what is discussed here is the fact that some were not paid (compagnies or private personsà), and that declarations of the managment team of genesi isn't trusted by more and more users here and elsewhere, so it's harder and harder to trust those "declarations". And if people talk about this this was because thendic/genesi managers were the former to talk about Amiga not paying or not delivering something, and about this, I wonder how a CEO or manager can pass he's time posting (real of fake content) all the day on news servers. Don't have this person some job to achieve? Or customers to find?
and yeta boi there are a bunch of people without social life who make an harrassment out of it just for the fact that it hasn't ngball glued ontop of it.
This sentence is so dumb that no comment is required.
They feel offened because it could be a possible future for the Amiga movement but for the freaking sake it does harm their picture of this world.
Hehe last time I heard this comment, this was done by bbrv;)
You learned the lesson really well. But again, this is some kind of child vision, and there are probably as enough mos fans than boingball fans.
A fan is a fan, with all problems this can do.
People should re-consider. If they don't like it then be it that way, no one will whine if you DO NOT buy Genesi products, no one really cares either. It's all and alone your own moneybag and decision if you want to do so or not.
Sometime people don't buy products from a compagny not because products are bad, but because their managers are completely corrupted. See around you there are so many examples, and while some boycot those products, some other say "no those products are good that's all I don't care about what are doing the managers with the money". In fact people that don't have a social life don't care about beoing honnest or not;)
In an ideal world I would welcome if people would get a social life, do some productive stuff to get this community moving again and do support either AROS, AOS4 and MorphOS.
What is a social life for you? This can be cool to have your oppinion on this.
So if your point of view is that only mos team is doing something....it's you oppinion that I don't share at all.
it's the philosophy that matters.
And now you talk about philosophy? After all what you said before?
hehe, let me laugh;)
can get a lot of good stuff onto our systems and make it become popular again.
Amiga-like systems are and will allways be a little market.
Whatever dream about mos or os4 being the most sold system is not a dream, it's a phantasm.
But no there are still a lot of people outside (again the same types of people) who complain because it's Linux junk that no one wants.
Those who don't have a social life? Hum...you like to take persons and placing a little label on them, in order to categorise them and you think this is suffisant?
No instead cooperating with the open source movement and use good bits they - (not even knowing howto code a shit) complain because they want some own native PowerPC stuff not being stained with the bad influence of Linux (like it was Aids or Malaria) or something.
You probably don't know what you are talking about here. hehe, you're completely wrong here men, all things aren't announced on ann.lu or amiga.org, that don't mean no one is working on them. here is a real and completely wrong declaration!!!
Well think about it. You people are still stuck in the 90's and on my calendar I read 2004. Best thing is getting work done, work that is necessary. Port software as much you can so we can all benefit from it.
hehe here is a sentence I can trust. That can be beos, that can be amigaos, that can be morphos or whatever little os, those oses are needed far more developers than they have. But who will work hundreds of hours to win....200$???
Is this is for creating free software, then all people install linux and develop on linux because thos who want a free systems are downloading linux that's all. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 68 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 16:04 GMT | In reply to Comment 64 (oGALAXYo):
Yes, it is possible to get along with morphos/pegasos people, most of them anyhow. Neither do I have bad feelings against the platform as such.
But demanding from everyone to ignore yet another "insult", yet another damage done by bb is ... well, something i dont understand.
Should he be able to change, I can change too, though I wont forget.
And just for the record, Im doing my part, are you? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 69 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 16:04 GMT | In reply to Comment 64 (oGALAXYo):
>>Reading all this stuff only cause pain and headache for me
Umm... step away from the computer dude. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 70 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 16:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 61 (oGALAXYo):
Ketzer do you have a life ? Maybe you go out search a girlfriend or something. Then you realize that your penis can be used also for other things than peeing. The smell and taste of real pussy rather than enjoying the left or right hand. This will make you calm down, this will make other calm down too (if they try it) and this will definately open a new world for you (and others too if they try so). Really I haven't read so much bullshit as I did in this entire thread. (I rarely read ANN because of all the junk people write).
Hey galaxy, that's you that talked about philosophy?
A philosoph must be open minded. Don't forget the foundments of the philosophy is to say that all of us owns a little party of the "Truth" (with a uppercase P, some other calle thid "God" with a uppercase G, opposed to god who is the materialised one).
Youjudge all persons here without knowing them, you explain them how they must act in their life because you certainly know better than other what is life (or social life like you call it). That's probably a good proof of a narrow minded philosopher. I know an hermit near my house who has almost no social life, but that owns life that is probably reacher that anyyone of us here. Can I have some references to you bed-philosopher-books? In case I don't know what book to read, I can take a lesson of narrow minded philosophy, this will probably help me understanding you. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 71 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by on 27-Feb-2004 16:36 GMT | In reply to Comment 65 (Johan Rönnblom):
> I'm not on a Genesi payroll (obviously) and I think galaxy expressed
> himself well here if we exclude comment 61.
Maybe this doesn't apply to galaxy but having seen many 'we should all get along' rants, it strikes me that they only appear (from either side) when their camp is being attacked. Perhaps I am too skeptikal.
> If people don't want to buy a Peg2 because they are too cheap, that's
> their decision. If they don't want to do business with Genesi because
> they dislike BBRV, fine with me.
> I'll get a Peg2 in a couple of months when I can justify the cost.
BB has screwed you to the tune of 3000 Euro and not only have you written that off but you're going to offer further support by buying a peg2? This I find incredible.
Sincerely, peg2 or no peg2, I hope you reconsider and wish you success in recovering the amount owed to you.
As for me, I'll be content when AInc reimburse my 50 bucks... |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 72 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 27-Feb-2004 16:56 GMT | In reply to Comment 71 ():
BBRV have not "screwed me to the tune of 3000 Euro". They got screwed
themselves by the Pretory disaster.
Now I'm off to enjoy myself for the weekend, no further comments from
me until late Sunday evening. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 73 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 27-Feb-2004 16:57 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (Ronald St-Maurice):
"Are all Amiga related companies all this screwed up? :S"
I know people who have worked for Eyetech and they have no such complaints. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 74 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 17:01 GMT | In reply to Comment 73 (Don Cox):
didn't you worked too for genesi Don? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 75 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 27-Feb-2004 17:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 74 (Anonymous):
"didn't you worked too for genesi Don?"
No, never. Nor have I ever worked for Hyperion or Amiga Inc. Several years ago I made a Scala presentation for Eyetech - that is the only work I have done for them. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 76 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 27-Feb-2004 17:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 72 (Johan Rönnblom):
Still they obviously had enough money left for "more pressing" matters. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 77 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 18:05 GMT | WHAT? UNPAID EMPLOYEES...
They seem to want to say MorphOS = AmigaOS. Seems like they follow very similar business practices so maybe they close enough to just lump them into the same boat. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 78 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by on 27-Feb-2004 18:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 76 (Ketzer):
...including their extended 'holiday' at the Las Vegas Hilton. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 79 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 18:19 GMT | In reply to Comment 78 ():
>>...including their extended 'holiday' at the Las Vegas Hilton.
Wonder if Rich Woods has any pictures of them there.
Hey Rich! How about taking up a new hobby and stalking Genesi employees? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 80 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 18:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 52 (Agima):
> Yeah and now we're finding out most of it was underhanded and illegal.
Yes, Pegasos with MorphOS is so fast, it's illegal in Belgium. Unpaid people is sad though, if they didn't volunteer. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 81 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Darth_X on 27-Feb-2004 19:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 45 (Agima):
Who had the McWebsite, was that you? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 82 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Dunc. on 27-Feb-2004 19:04 GMT | I've never had much time for the red-blue mudslinging, but after all the years of Genesi claiming the moral high ground I found it *very* hard to supress a smile at this.
Not that two wrongs make a right, though. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 83 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 27-Feb-2004 19:19 GMT | In reply to Comment 65 (Johan Rönnblom):
>Personally I think Ben H is a clown
The feeling is entirely mutual. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 84 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 27-Feb-2004 19:33 GMT | In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
WTF? What does Belgium got to do with this shit?
Cheers |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 85 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by TRAPOSOFT on 27-Feb-2004 19:47 GMT | War, never been so much fun
Funny thread :) |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 86 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 27-Feb-2004 20:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 85 (TRAPOSOFT):
Argh! Why did you have to go and do that?
Can't get the song out of my head again.
*whistles* |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 87 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Power Ranger on 27-Feb-2004 20:18 GMT | >At this point, BBRV very much chose the wrong path in my opinion. Instead
>of telling employees and contractors that the time ahead would be tough,
>they tried to hide things and tell nice stories.
So, let's recap and make things clear once and for all.
Amiga Inc. didn't pay his employees for many months for lack of funds. BBRV helped one of those employees sue Amiga for not being paid (regardless of the fact that this individual was told right before that the company wasn't gonna be able to pay him), instead Buck, does the same thing, but instead of warning his employees in advance and putting a freeze on the hiring, he hides the truth and keeps hiring people with false promises.
I hope people will understand what kind of person Buck is. At least McEwen had the balls to tell his employees upfront that it was gonna be ok if they had to look for another job since he could not pay them. They stayed by choice, including the individual that Buck used to sue Amiga for his nefarious scheme. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 88 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Power Ranger on 27-Feb-2004 20:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
Oh, gimme a break, Thendic France and Genesi are the same thing. Buck is/was behind both of them. The guy who wrote the post was hired by Buck or are you going to deny that too? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 89 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by lawd on 27-Feb-2004 20:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 83 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>>Personally I think Ben H is a clown
>The feeling is entirely mutual.
LOL. Like the child you really are.
Very original Ben! |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 90 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 20:27 GMT | In reply to Comment 81 (Darth_X):
>>Who had the McWebsite, was that you?
Not me. What's the McWebsite? Something to do with McEwen I'm guessing. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 91 of 214 | ANN.lu |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 92 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by MarkTime on 27-Feb-2004 20:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 83 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>>Personally I think Ben H is a clown
>The feeling is entirely mutual.
ur both right |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 93 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by TRAPOSOFT on 27-Feb-2004 20:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 86 (Thomas Würgler/Pagan):
>Argh! Why did you have to go and do that?
>Can't get the song out of my head again.
Hey Thomas, download and listen Cannon Fodder Remix!
:) |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 94 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by tokai on 27-Feb-2004 20:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 65 (Johan Rönnblom):
hey.. neko is okay. :-)
Anyway... I personaly didn't found much persons who are 'not okay' in this community (atm. I couldn't point to anyone... except "Anonymus" :) On #morphos, #amiganews.de, #amigaworld, #amiga.org, #amigaimpact, #aros, etc. I had always nice talks with the people in these channels even if they have another opinion than I have or speak another language. With a bit more tolerance we didn't need such threads like this very one here.
regards,
tokai |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 95 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Steve on 27-Feb-2004 20:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 83 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
@Ben Hermans
Thanks to add another proof that you're indeed a clown. You already proven by the past thousand times that you were a clown, and you still confirm this today.
Mr "OS 4 will be available in february 2002", "There is no bug in the Articia", "It's not a bug it's a feature" (about DMA issue on Articia, the funny part is that now the DMA in the Articia S is officially recognised as not functionning by MAI Logic and now the future Articia Sa and P chipsets are presented with "Unique DMA capabilities" andd the DMA as a new feature compared to Articia S which has now no DMA officially). And this is just a few extract and the stupid and false, and so very funny things you said in the past.
And don't try to justify yourself on all these false statements or to claim they are not false, this would just be other proofs that you are a clown. |
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| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 21:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 95 (Steve):
>>"There is no bug in the Articia"
How can there be a bug in Articia?? There is no MAI without April remember, so it stands to reason there is no Articia either. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 97 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jack Me on 27-Feb-2004 22:06 GMT | In reply to Comment 95 (Steve):
"Thanks to add another proof that you're indeed a clown. You already proven by the past thousand times that you were a clown, and you still confirm this today."
Is he not allowed to defend himself? |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 98 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2004 22:06 GMT | In reply to Comment 87 (Power Ranger):
> McEwen had the balls to tell his employees upfront that it was gonna be ok if they had to look for another job since he could not pay them
Let's make him employer of the year. Alas, his ethics ended when he saw an opportunity to fuck over-emotional and under-rational Amiga users with virtual t-shirts and coupons. |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 99 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Agima on 27-Feb-2004 22:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 98 (Anonymous):
Bill Buck did the same thing by promising over emotional Amiga users jobs and then not paying them. That's worse than a $50 coupon (that you still couldn't use yet anyway so no loss there) and a t-shirt that was very clearly advertised as 'free'(no loss there either). |
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| How many unpaid Genesi employees? : Comment 100 of 214 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Cyberviking2000 on 27-Feb-2004 22:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 48 (SlimJim):
I was thinking more along the lines of ripping out the still beating heart from Genesi and taking a big bite. ;) |
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