| [News] Interview with Ben Hermans from Hyperion | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 07-Nov-2001 20:45 GMT by Christophe Decanini | 194 comments
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Christoph Gutjahr interviewed Hyperion about AmigaOS 4.0.
You can read the interview on amiga-news.de in English or in German.
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| Posted by priest on 08-Nov-2001 16:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 113 (Mekanix):
Posted by Mekanix
>But all this really doesn't matter, because your Windowsassumption is just
>plain wrong. A huge amount of people are *not* running Windows on their
>x86 equipment, and I'm one of them.
I agree, I also know a few such people.
>Now, look at the current path for AmigaOS 4.x. Your target is current
>installed userbase (don't expect any increase in that number) which
>runs in about 20-40.000 (how many copies did OS 3.9 sell? Less than 20k
>right?). Now, this number is dramatically reduced to that little fration
>who would shelve out a lot of doe on some expencive novelty HW and that
>little fraction you'll have to share with the MorphOS/Pegasos-team. That
>would optimistically mean a installed userbase between 5-15k for OS4,
>which is laughable compared BeOS (which you've labeled a failure).
That was not fair! ;)
OS4 does not yet exist. No-one knows how much it will sell, or how much pegasos will sell.
I agree that dooming something as failure is RISKY business!
(IMO: Linux has not failed. Apple is on the limit.)
>And 5-15k users? How difficult would that be to surpass for the x86/Amithlon-platform?
I personally hope success for both, as well as for MorphOS niche.
>>> Amiga on x86 is THE only way for survival.
>> It certainly isn't. Cheap hardware is the
>> way for survival regardless of the make of
>> CPU and as long as it isn't a machine capable
>> of running Windows.
hmmm, weird.
IMO:
-cheap HW helps a lot (no matter of the CPU)
-windows dualbooting/hosting will not help the sales of ported games
-custom Amiga HW might help the sales of PORTED games
-windows/office compatibility helps
-application/game availability is the main key to success
(While it is difficult to develop high tech HW for huge mass market in competitive prices (PC motherboard quality varies a lot), it is not easy to produce cheap HW for niche market. --> i expect a lot of bugs in pegasos motherboard, while simpler AmigaOne1200 might be less buggy and cheaper to produce)
>Be (remember, that's who you keep refering to for learnt lessons) learned that
>with BeBox, hey even running on niche HW (Macs) will not get you far. Be
>shifted to x86 to late.
IMO: dualbooting was wrong choise.
>1) Trouble at Loki.
>Well, duh. Loki have this really insane businessplan of porting month/year
>old games and releasing it at full prise to a community that long since
>have finished playing the value/budget release. Sounds familiar?
So you dislike ported games.
I want them!
And I'm pretty sure that Loki did not have many choices, they had to pay licenses and development costs from a lot smaller sales than windows game had.
>4) Failure of Linux.
>How about a reality check? My guess is that it's the secondlargest desktopOS.
>Yeah, even larger than MacOS. And no, Linux isn't targeted at Joe User, yet.
I agree on that linux is proceeding.
I've sen some around here, in OFFICE use.
(btw. I also see more and more PowerMacs...)
>But it's getting there. As others have pointed out, have you had a look at
>KDE 2.2.1 recently? It gives me everything OS 3.9 haves to offer and so
>much more and so much better!
Argh. IMPOSSIBLE Amiga OS is the best. ;)
(really, I need to test that one)
>It isn't Windows you should fear, it's Linux. And there noveltyHW
>wont save you. Linux will get there!
Time will tell what happens.
At least Linux is furter in "there" (desktop&office) than Amiga currently is.
>5) Failures of BeOS.
>Windows didn't kill BeOS. Be did! With their constant shift in focus
>(BeBox, Mac, x86, BeIA) everytime leaving user hanging. Lack of
>driver support. Giving away their primary source of income while
>betting on BeIA way way to soon.
I partly agree. I agree on the lack of focus. But the windows affect was also there, also there was apple's affect, for example when they killed PPC clones.
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>>>3) New PPC CPU's can emulate PC's at full speed, so basically, PPC will also run Windows.
>>But it won't be installed on every machine.
And native PPC is at least 4x faster than P3 emulated by the same PPC.
Amithlon will not be that much faster than windoze and windoze always get Nvidia (3D) drivers, while Amithlon might never get those.
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Me, I and myself ... more of IMO, I mean:
- I own Duron800 with W98, my wife uses it, I do not prefer it over my Amiga. I will be running the SDK on it, though, until SDK appears for AmigaOS.
- I buy 68k Amiga SW. Like OS3.9, Netconnect3, makeCD, CGX4.1, Easys, Photofolio, Napalm, Foundation, (and soon) Exodus, Earth2150, ImageFX and Pagestream4.1. U C I'm glad to pay for all the FUN I've had with Amiga and for all the fun I will have, previously I could not afford paying (I had FUN though). I will most likely buy also Amithlon (but only after the SDK runs on it). And I will always continue buying Amiga apps, as long as "Amiga" is the Amiga I like. I do not care if some game has appeared earlier on PC, I will buy it for Amiga anyway, I really WANT GP2 for Amiga !!!! ;)
- But I think there are a lot of Amigans that are not as loyal.
- Still, I'm not 100% confident that Hyperion's theory is correct about the lethalty of x86 Amiga. Perhaps they should try to sell Warp3D for Amithlon users, just to check if they are willing to pay for it. If they are, they might even buy Hyperions latest 68k game Descent Freespace ... 8) I would.
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