[News] Fleecy Moss clarifies on ANN | ANN.lu |
Posted on 20-May-2002 22:17 GMT by SlimJim | 186 comments View flat View list |
For those of you lacking the stamina to wade through the 300+ posts-thread
on ANN (named "the next ppc amiga" ), Fleecy Moss, CTO at Amiga Inc,
made a short surprise visit to dispell some rumours about the BPlan-AInc situation (apparently
after getting the thumbs up from AInc:s legal advisors).
Snippets from various posts:
[...] "For AmigaOS4, Amiga said that it will welcome ANY and ALL hardware companies
which develop hardware. We have spent many hours of email with
representatives of bPlan and in all of them, our line has been consistent.
1.We will be very happy to provide bPlan with an OS4 licence, and to have
OS4 running on the Pegasos
2.Amiga compatability within MorphOS comes from illegally obtained source
tapes and we will use all legal process to prevent it from entering the
market.
It is not Amiga Inc preventing AmigaOS4 from running on the Pegasos. As far
as Amiga Inc is concerned, we consider the two issues mentioned above as
being completely separate."
[...]
"Most of you (with an interest in the truth anyway) have already asked the
obvious question. What would Amiga Inc gain from NOT allowing OS4 to run on
the Pegasos. Answer - absolutely nothing.
The licence terms for OS4 are the same for bPlan as for Eyetech and anyone
else who wishes to sell an Amiga product that runs OS4. It is a typical OEM
licence, and presents a level playing field, for producers, for distributors
and for customers. You will find NO exclusive deals done for any product
that carries the Amiga seal of approval, and no favouritism played to any
company or individual.
Any company that says that they approached us and we rejected them is lying.
They may not have liked certain elements of the OEM deal, but it is the same
deal as everyone else is offered."
[...]
"Anything to do with MorphOS and its 'amiga compatability' will be decided,
so it seems, in the courts."
|
|
List of all comments to this article |
Fleecy Moss clarifies on ANN : Comment 165 of 186 | ANN.lu |
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 21-May-2002 23:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 163 (Bill Hoggett): "No I didn't. Everybody is looking at ONE story though, because that is what they want to believe.
Not many people here were BeOS users and not many people here ever paid BeOS much attention before the Microsoft story broke."
It is this story that made Be try to find out an exit door that was the BEIA. Unfortunately a door going nowhere.
For your records, I was using Be on a dual 604 Macintosh clone. If I remember well it was R2.
I also had email contacts with Jean Louis Gassee.
"> Be had major PC companies ready to ship BeOS. Then Microsoft threatened
> them and Be lost any chance to really penetrates de x86 market.
One major company, and yes Microsoft screwed over that deal. OTOH, that deal never made BeOS any money in the first place, so Microsoft simply stopped BeOS growing, they were not responsible for its death."
Maybe not stopping it right away but enough to stop the BeOS propagation to other PC company, software development, ...
"> These OEM contract would have helped Be to have more revenues for
> development and woudl have gain a momentum to get software from Adobe,
> Macromedia ...
Yes, maybe so. However, unless Be Inc invested heavily in bringing BeOS up to date with hardware drivers, it was never going to get enough users to attract the big companies anyway."
The problem was not mainly the driver but the applications available.
A lot of users could test BeOS (despite a restricted supported hardware) and enjoy the OS but not really using BeOS applications.
"If it doesn't, it will still be someone else's fault, right?"
Maybe everyone fault including people like you that are waiting everything without actualy doing anything to help.
It is your right and I don't blame you for that.
The Amiga management concerning AmigaOS has been nearly non existant, so if AmigaOS dies they will know why: too little, too late.
Pegasos / MorphOS could be have been an alternative that could have worked. But the current situation is getting worse and worse.
"Ah, so I must change the truth every time you repeat Ben Hermans' lie? If you all want to stay ignorant, fine, keep banging on with the "x86 killed BeOS" deception"
I don't need Ben Hermans to have an idea. I knew what I said about Beos before Hermans had an idea.
", it's no skin off my nose. Just don't expect to have any credibility when you want to say something serious, that's all."
Looking at this thread it looks that you did loose all your credibility.
Once again Bill what are your experiences on the Amiga market ?
Did you ever had an Amiga business ?
You still amaze me when you come with your ideas thinking you can bring the Amiga to the masses and make it profitable again while almost all Amiga profesionnals does not think your way.
I don't ask you to stop thinking your way. I just think you should take into account the Amiga market reality.
If the product announced as "AmigaOS x86" was so successfull we would have a majority of PC users on the big news/forum sites like ANN, Amiga.org etc.
It looks it is not the case. That's a bad situation. I do not say PPC will be 100% successfull, I say it is the best way to start a platform that could have a chance.
I'am sorry if it sounds hard but unfortunately it is the way it is. |
|
List of all comments to this article (continued) |
|
- User Menu
-
- About ANN archives
- The ANN archives is powered by #AmigaZeux. It was updated daily (news last: 22-Oct-2004; comments last: 18-May-2005).
ANN.lu was created, previously owned and maintained by Christian Kemp, www.ckemp.com.
- Contribute
- Not possible at this time!
- Search ANN archives
- Advanced search
- Hosting
- ANN.lu was hosted by Dreamhost. Sign up through this link, mention "ckemp" as referrer and he will get a 10% commission on any account you purchase.
Please show your appreciation for any past, present and future work on ANN.lu by making a contribution via PayPal.
|