[News] Fleecy Moss clarifies on ANN | ANN.lu |
Posted on 20-May-2002 22:17 GMT by SlimJim | 186 comments View flat View list |
For those of you lacking the stamina to wade through the 300+ posts-thread
on ANN (named "the next ppc amiga" ), Fleecy Moss, CTO at Amiga Inc,
made a short surprise visit to dispell some rumours about the BPlan-AInc situation (apparently
after getting the thumbs up from AInc:s legal advisors).
Snippets from various posts:
[...] "For AmigaOS4, Amiga said that it will welcome ANY and ALL hardware companies
which develop hardware. We have spent many hours of email with
representatives of bPlan and in all of them, our line has been consistent.
1.We will be very happy to provide bPlan with an OS4 licence, and to have
OS4 running on the Pegasos
2.Amiga compatability within MorphOS comes from illegally obtained source
tapes and we will use all legal process to prevent it from entering the
market.
It is not Amiga Inc preventing AmigaOS4 from running on the Pegasos. As far
as Amiga Inc is concerned, we consider the two issues mentioned above as
being completely separate."
[...]
"Most of you (with an interest in the truth anyway) have already asked the
obvious question. What would Amiga Inc gain from NOT allowing OS4 to run on
the Pegasos. Answer - absolutely nothing.
The licence terms for OS4 are the same for bPlan as for Eyetech and anyone
else who wishes to sell an Amiga product that runs OS4. It is a typical OEM
licence, and presents a level playing field, for producers, for distributors
and for customers. You will find NO exclusive deals done for any product
that carries the Amiga seal of approval, and no favouritism played to any
company or individual.
Any company that says that they approached us and we rejected them is lying.
They may not have liked certain elements of the OEM deal, but it is the same
deal as everyone else is offered."
[...]
"Anything to do with MorphOS and its 'amiga compatability' will be decided,
so it seems, in the courts."
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Posted by ShadesOfGrey on 21-May-2002 01:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (smithy): >>What would you consider mainstream hardware ? i reckon the poot'in inside
>>modern kitchen stuff , tv's etc is more mainstream then x86 , doesn't mean i
>>want my choice of os on it.
>
>A standard tactic. Trying to divert attention from the real issue. However, if
>you want to be pedantic, I'd define mainstream hardware as hardware that I can
>run software on that I can buy on the high street. Read: PC hardware. I
>deliberately call it "mainstream hardware" because it's irrelevant that it is >PC hardware. It just so happens that PC hardware is accessible to the majority >of computing enthusiasts. If it was the case that PPC hardware was mainstream,
>then I'd argue for that. I'm not bothered about the PC, I'm bothered about
>seeing new users and new software for AmigaOS.
Talk about pedantic and diverting from the "real issue". What is a "PC"? The fact is "PC" stands for Personal Computer. But you say it's a Wintel or Winthlon XP box. After all that is pretty much all you can get on the "high street". Is an Amiga not a "PC"? Is an Atari ST/Falcon not a "PC"? Is a Mac not a "PC"? Obviously not, they don't run Windows 3.1/NT/9x/2000/Me/XP. At least not nearly as well as those machines from the "high street".
If Amiga Inc. were to try and compete against Windows on the X86 hardware platform, they would be just like Be. Dead (yet again). Why they hell do you think Apple has been reluctant to enter the X86 world? Why does Linux still have such a small segment of the desktop market?
Wake up! Wintel and Winthlon XP boxes are not mainstream because they use X86 processors, but because they run WINDOWS (TM)!
>>And maybe we don't want to be mainstream, many linux people are afraid of
>>this spoiling the os .. Leave de for them and the interested of us and rape
>>the benefits.
>
>Yes, the elite wants to keep things the way they are. Close out new users and
>ideas that using mainstream hardware would bring. And if it closes out new
>software and growth? Well, this is another issue the elite doesn't want to
>address.
No! The "elite" (who are the elite anyway?) are trying to save the Amiga OS platform. Going head to head with M$ on the same hardware is SUICIDE! Why use the next generation Amiga OS with a handful of application when you have thousands for Windows apps? Until there is a sufficiently competitive pool of software available for porting for the next generation Amiga OS, adding X86 support will only serve to kill Amiga Inc. and to a degree the Amiga OS (there will still be AROS, UAE, and maybe even Amithlon & Amiga XL or MorphOS if Gateway chooses not to take legal action.).
>>BTw. I would consider amigaONE , peagsos and macs mainstream hardware in that
>>they use *standard* sorta stuff and not the custom chips of yesteryear , does
>>the cpu choice really change that ?
>
>Is it mainstream? The acid test:
>
>1. Do >90% of the computing owning public own one? (PC=yes, Mac=no, A1=No).
>2. Can I buy software on the high street for it? (PC=yes, Mac=limited, A1=No).
Your acid test is not entirely accurate. Here's how it should look.
1. Do >90% of the computing owning public own one?
(PC=yes, Mac=no, A1=No).
2. Do >90% of the computing owning public own a copy?
(Windows=yes, Mac OS=no, *nix=no, A1=No).
3. Presently, what would stop them from using Windows instead of Amiga OS on X86 hardware?
(Nostalgia=perhaps, Nothing=more likely)
4. Can I buy software on the high street for it?
(Windows=yes, Mac/*nix<!>=limited, Amiga OS=No).
<!> Limited to purchasing Linux/BSD distros and perhaps freeware/shareware disks.
For all the mistakes the current Amiga Inc. have made, they got one thing right. X86 IS NOT ready for the Amiga OS and the Amiga OS IS NOT ready for X86.
Have I diverted attention? I think so... Not AWAY from the core issue, but rather toward it. |
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