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[News] News from Alive MediasoftANN.lu
Posted on 02-Jun-2000 13:35 GMT by Christian Kemp145 comments
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After recent negative press reports on Alive Mediasoft, both here on the unmoderated section of ANN, as well as on amiga-news.de and Czech Amiga News, I was surprised to receive an email from Steven Flowers saying: Let me give you somthing real to right about Alive will close very soon Earlier on, he already sent an email, trying to explain the situation with Goal 2000, that you can read below. Now, what is your opinion? Is Alive good or bad? What are your experiences with them? Remember, this isn't a witch hunt, so please don't flame, just state the facts. Hello,

First of all I'm pretty pissed off. KDH whom I've never dealt with or heard of have taken it upon themselves to distribute emails concerning the game Goal 2000 and their subsequent decision to cease distributing our games becasue they can't get it to work correctly, and there is a crack on the front.

Firstly, we received this enquiry only yesterday and acted immediately with an explanation and details of how to run the game correctly. However, a two-hour turnround on our response was apparantly not good enough and they've felt the need to go public with this matter with ridiculous accusations of it not being Goal 2000, but in fact just the plain old original Goal.

Obviously this is not the case. The CD does contain Goal 2000 details are below. Anyone having problems can contact us for advice.

What concerns me most is that people involved in the Amiga market seem to have nothing better to do than sit around on the internet stirring up trouble wherever possible when they don't have a clue about the real situation.

This may be a part-time hobby to some people, and quite a few appear to take great pleasure in dragging this market lower than it already is by nit-picking and squabling about everything and anything they can get their hands on.

Well it's about time that people realised this is a serious business with peoples lives and homes on the line. It is not a game.

If anyone has concerns about a product, anyones, they should address it with the company in question first, then if they are still unhappy with the outcome and feel there is an injustice to the public then fair enough go public, but at least wait for an explanation....

So Goal or Goal 2000?

Did Goal have a cup competition? NO
Did Goal have an aggregate knock-out competition? NO
Did Goal have the British Premier League? NO
Did Goal have a practically inpenetrable goalkeeper? YES
Did Goal have 1999-2000 teams? NO

So, how can Goal 2000 possibly be Goal?

I don't know what relevance this is but people seem intrigued... Goal 2000 is not a brand new project. We've never claimed it to be. It is in fact an old game called Goal Championship Cup Edition which never got released. Alive obtained this, updated it to the latest leagues and released it as Goal 2000.

Yes, there is a crack on the front as this was the only version available at the time of release, as is the case nowadays with so many re-releases and the like.

August will see the release of a free update for all Goal 2000 owners providing them with all the new teams for next years league and will also eliminate the crack from the front-end.

Last but not least we have been contacted by our German distributer GTI concerning this. As our products go through many third parties to reach Europe, it took a long time for the news of KDH's dissatisfaction to reach us.

As it turns out we have now had response from GTI stating they are satisfied with the product and there is no question of the origin of the game. Although this matter is now resolved to everyones satisfaction, it would have been alot better if people would contact us directly and wait for a response before jumping on the band waggon to put everything up on newsgroups.

I'm sick of explaining myself to the whole Amiga community about things that don't concern them but some people feel a need to be arrogant so I must address them.

The customer who bought Goal 2000 from us and has had trouble running it has indeed emailed us a few days ago about this. However, he's only bothered to email Jennie who is now on maternity leave and only gets her mail a few times a week. Alive have several emails including a technical support one for these exact type of problems. There's also the phone, yet he's never bothered trying any of these. He's now had a response explaining where's he's going wrong, but yet again news of this "problem" is already circulating around the news groups. There's really no need for this is there?

Bottom line is, this kind of pettiness will stop the public buying Alive's games - result being no more Alive mediasoft....

Now KDH have stopped selling Alive's products, you all know where to come for Elite 3 now don't you? He! He! He!

ALIVE mediasoft
Steven Flowers
The Pulse Editor

News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 105 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Alexander Holland on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Alexander Holland):
True to their word, Alive have removed the Ambermoon offer from their website.
Before last Sunday I had not heard of them (I'm not an Amiga-holic), and they do have some cool (rare) games in their catalog. Had I have known about Alive before this I almost certainly would have mail ordered money to them through the post.
If they clean up their act, right all wrongs, I might well do so in the future (I hold no grudges... life is too short!)
If they make it to World of Amiga 2000, and they have the ORIGINALS on sale where I can pay cash in person then perhaps I will. I do not condone what they are accused of, however why should I miss out on owning a piece of history.
Cheers
Alexander Holland
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 107 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (Not feared.):
Its called debate and freedom. In an average day I sleep, breathe, eat, work,
discuss life, live, maybe just maybe use my Amiga.
I forgot that I was living in a totalitarian state. I will make sure in future
all I do use use my Amiga and ensure that I am doing something productive with
it.
Sorry sir, wont happen again.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 106 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Not feared. on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
So much comments here means that there is still activity on the Amiga scene. But activity for WHAT?
Posting Bullshits or making good about the AMIGA? Reviving or kill the AMIGA? I lost almost 1 hour to read all comments. I think it would be more worth all this Energy and Time lost for this to be for something else.
What about all other people posting here. Haven't they have something worth to do?
Sorry for my bad ENGLISH.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 104 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Well I thought it had gone quiet for to long, I wonder who will buy his stock ?
Regardless of what I have said here in the past it could have been such a good company at the end of the day, they had the Amiga communtity in the palm of their hand and they went and messed it all up and I do not understand why ? Well I suppose I could hazard a guess but if I printed it here I could end my foot in mouth as alive have.
Oh one last thing before I go today, according to a post above alive have been receiving some nasty phonecalls, come on people it is not the way to resolve the problem, all we can do is publish the facts as we know them ( Not rumours or hearsay ) and then if there is a case let the authorities take over.
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 103 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, "The CD's are NOT an Alive product. I didnt make the CD's, I bought the CD's off
someone else and didnt realise they were illegal!" mr flowers talking about Ambermoon.
This statement from the so called biggest Amiga publisher/distributer there is, their words not mine.
Now if you was an Amiga publisher/distributer would you not know if a game you was selling was legal or not.
Surely you would not buy them without question and put them on the market, would you ?
Judging by what is advertised on his site i would say there is a lot of software being sold that should not be.
Alive themselves in one of the many postings here actually talk about removing the crack from the front end of a game.
It will be a cold day in hell when that excuse stands up in a court of law.
This bloke sold em to me in the pub officer i did`nt know they was illegal.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 102 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Alexander Holland on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Jennie Flowers):
Reply to Comment 61:
* Anco are more than happy with Alive
* mediasoft and actually dicussed duplication
* of some of their other games with us.
[Snip]
* I've also spoken to the author of
* Ambermoon this morning with the same
* satisfactory results.
I did call Jennie Flowers prior to her message,
seems a nice cheery person on the phone,
but I made it clear I was NOT the author, but the owner of the English Data, and the only person with a claim to be able to distribute it (for non-profit) legally.
The message above is a bit ambiguous, however I did say that I was NOT satisfied with their conduct. Making money from illegally from someone elses hardwork!
I made it clear that they should NOT duplicate any of the Ambermoon English data, and ESPECIALLY nothing from the Thalion Webshrine!
Jenny was very nice and said that "We didnt make the CDR, I dont think we have any in stock anymore, I'm not sure if we have sold any, but I can find out WHO sold us the CDR's in the first place!"
It was then I heard about this posting, so I got on the phone to Alive.
Jenny wouldnt come to the phone, there had been some trouble earlier with malicious phone calls (There are some SAD people in this world!) However Steven Flowers spoke to me.
He said that he didnt know these CD's were pirate, he just thought that they were another offical compilation CD like Amiga Classix 2.
(And I have to say that the people who compiled Amiga Classix 2 DID contact Thalion's partner Eclipse and ask for permission to distribute Lethal Xcess and Eclipse's own title Monster Buisness)
So I explained to him that if a game comes on CDR, there is no sleeve/box, on the CDR are just ADF/DMS files etc. And NO copyright info README's then you KNOW that it's a pirate disc and you DONT buy it and sell it on.
To which he replied
"If sumone cums t' me wiv some Amiga games I know I can sell, then wot am I t' do? I run a buisness."
We talked a bit about how I though you could make a living selling legitimate classic games in box's (There are enough collectors out there who WANT original games in the box's with manuals etc.)
He went on about that's what they do and they have loads of stock, they actually have copies of a games (ORIGINAL) that I would REALLY like :(
However he finished his phone call with :
"I suppose it's good then Today (Tuesday) we have made the final decision t' close the company" "We are going have lots of work to honour outexisting orders and then sell off our stock to a company, I better not tell you which, dont want any of this nonsense rubbing off on them, but when it's done I'll find out who sold us those games (Ambermoon's)."
He also said they would delete the entry from the Website for Ambermoon, NOT sell anymore, but when I mentioned refunds to those who have already purchased he rapidly changed the subject.
However I am NOT holding my breath for any results.
Cheers
Alexander Holland
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 101 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Alexander Holland on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Kurgan):
* Have a look at issue 12 of The Pulse.
* Jennie announces the release of the
* english version of the rpg game
* AMBERMOON there.
Wow, do you still have this issue? Do they announce it as THEIR game? Or they say they just have copies in stock?
I spoke to Steven Flowers on Tuesday 6th June and he tried to explain "The CD's are NOT an Alive product. I didnt make the CD's, I bought the CD's off someone else and didnt realise they were illegal!"
* Ambermoon was made by a company
* called Thalion and was ONLY released
* in Germany.
Very True, the publishing rights to the game are still owned by a very nice German company.
* Thalion finished the work on
* the english version of this game,
* but unfortunately this great company
* went bankrupt so the english version
* was never released.
They didnt go bankrupt, they knew their wasnt enough money in the kitty for another game and decided to close. On closing they sold the publication rights (NOT COPYRIGHTS) to (all?) their games to different publishers who still own them to this day.
* In 1999 someone started to open
* a website, dedicated to Thalion
* and all their games.
That'd be me then :)
* It's just a FAN SITE,
True, however we have asked for non-commercial publication licences for all the games from their owners, some have replied and agreed, some have denied (A320 Airbus) and some are pending. Also scans from magazines, CoverDisk's etc. have been given written permission from their publisers (EMAP and Future etc.)
* but it's the only site where you were
* and ARE able to download this never released
* english version,
Well it's been leeched and offered illegaly from Amiga emulation sites all over the web, but they are not charging for it, and I suppose not making a forture from their banner adverts. NOTE: Thalion Webshrine has NO banner adverts!
* because a Thalion ex-worker sent this version to the maintainer.
Ahem... the legal blurb is :- "The Thalion webshrine is not and has never been a collaboration or association with any Ex-Thalion employees." ;)
But yes I DO own the (only?) ORIGINAL English data for Ambermoon.
* But don't use any of these games
[On the Thalion Webshrine]
* for commercial purposes!!!
I thought that No-one would try there are COPYRIGHT msg's on each page!
* Now Alive will sell the english
* version for £14.99
Isn't it £19.99??
* Please explain me how they can do that?
Legally they CANNOT!
* From whom have they bought the license,
* when the company Thalion is dead?
Well as I have said Thalion sold the publication rights to different companies, however they could have ONLY ever bought the rights to the GERMAN version, and they didnt even do that!
* Someone must still own the rights
* for this game and this person is
* now working for a famous german
* software company.
AFAIK, he still owns the COPYRIGHTS to the game, (the places, name, story etc.) so no-one can do a sequal. However I they sold the publication rights to their games and I believe it included the German Amiga version of Ambermoon.
I dont think they contacted him anyhow (he hasnt said anything!)
As anyone who knows this game... to play it successfully you need the Manual, a MAP and a Rune conversion table. If anyone HAS bought this CD from Alive could they please tell me if these are included?
One last thing, the dictionary file included on the disks on the Thalion Website has been altered to remove a bug that existed in the ORIGINAL file.
I wonder if the Alive version still has the bug??
Cheers
Alexander Holland
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 108 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Do you know who produced the CDR of Ambermoon english version? I know. It's Alive Mediasoft.
I'm sorry I don't want to put here my identity as I don't want to enter anymore in this question, but trust me.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 109 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 07-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (Alexander Holland):
So do you feel that removing Ambermoon makes right all the wrongs that have done, just this Ambermoon thing proves how they work, release a statement saying that they had spoken to the author of Ambermoon when in fact they had not. What they must remember is we are a community not like the PC owners scattered about all over the place one not talking to the each other, we communicate. So if they say we have spoken to and, then we as a community start talking and the truth comes out.
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 110 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 07-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 108 (Anonymous):
Well that one did not take a lot of working out did it.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 121 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 120 (Bill Eaves):
learn to spell and they might have understood your order
and ill say what i like d-ckhead
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 116 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Chris S):
get a life chris s you stupid twat
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 117 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Paul):
In response to paul comment 85
that email address is real and im nothing to do with alive so get your facts right
are you and chris s both friends because your both stupid as s_it and dont seem to know what you are talking about
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 119 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Robert Simmonds):
robert seems to have a better understanding of this situation than the people who just insult alive without knowing the truth
people like chris s always seem to talk nonsense but then again he is all mouth and no brains
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 120 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Eaves on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 115 (mr p brown):
Mr P. Brown,
If you have something constructive to say, please do so. If not why do you keep commenting on things you have nothing to do with.
If you have not had a problem with Alive then fine, you7 are lucky.
Just let theose of us who have been ripped off have our just say in this matter, Alive still owe me money.
Once I have a refund I will be happy and drop the matter. Until then I regard them as criminals.
_
Now, Mr. Brown if you have nothing better to do then let innocent people get their money back from Alive without
your needless support for this bunch of cowboys that promise much but deliver nothing.
_
_
Bill.
_
_
Still waitng for that refund Stephen, when will it arrive ?
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 118 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Bill on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 113 (Chris S):
"Ibrowse and the paragraph stripping let me see.
Must admit I have not noticed it.
I use Ibrowse all the time."
_
That is why all your paragraphs run together with no spacing in between :)
OT, I know but more to do with Amiga than Alive ever had !
_
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Bill.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 115 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Chris S):
I would just like to say to chris s i am not a software company .
THis is 100% true response so get your facts right you stupid brainless idiot
if this is all you have to say shut yer gob and buggar off or say something of importance
COME AND HAVE GO IF YOUR HARD ENOUGH
chris s
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 113 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (William Eaves):
Yes it would be nice to say something good about alive but I cannot think of one thing.
Ibrowse and the paragraph stripping let me see.
Must admit I have not noticed it.
I use Ibrowse all the time.
Chris S.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 114 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by CHris S on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (William Eaves):
Wrong place to discuss this really, oh that paragraph stripping yes it can be really annoying at time.
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 111 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Bill. on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (rvo):
"My advise to Steven, take a long holiday. :^)"
_
He can afford it. Mainly on the money he owes to other people though :-(
Bill.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 112 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by William Eaves on 09-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Hi,
_
I HAD hoped to say something a bit more positive about Alive this weekend.
_
Last week I was emailed by Jennie and offered my refund. Great, that would be the end of the matter at last.
_
I do want to say something nice about them, not glowing praise obviously, but I would have liked to have
said that they had done the right thing in the end even if it did take a long time. However the promised
and rightfully due refund has still to arrive.
_
Come on Alive, the only reason people are having a dig at you is that you do not deliver
what you promise. Is it that difficult to write a cheque and out it in the post. It is much easier
than trying to track down a piece of "your advertised" software that you can't seem to get in the
next few months. It is easy to write a cheque for goods not delivered, go for it.
_
I hope next week I will be able to write something nicer about you. I want to, you want me to.
Just send my refund (and no doubt those you owe to others) and we will be happier.
_
All I want is my money back.
_
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Bill.
_
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PS. Does anyone know why IBrowse strips paragraph spacings? Hence the "_" between paragraphs.
Not that I have any problem with IB, it is a feature of the software and soon to be fixed.
_
For the record I have had no problems with any UK Amiga dealer before either, only Alive have failed to deliver so far.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 128 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
I have just heard that alive are now under investigation by the police, ELSPA and FAST, so it seems there is justice in the world after all.
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 123 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Eaves on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 121 (mr p brown):
Mr. P Brown, or should I call you Steven, criticising spelling or typing is rather
cheeky considering the abysmal grammar and spelling in The Pulse.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 124 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by mr p brown on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 (Paul):
I did study at oxford if you must know and if they owe you £300 then i see your problem.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 125 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by MR P BROWN on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 123 (Bill Eaves):
Ive have never been connected with alive mediasoft.
as for my spelling you should try writing when you have been in car accident and have your arm in plaster
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 126 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by David on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Mr Brown, I know of one person in the Amiga scene who uses the rather 80's and juvenile expression 'dick-head' and that is Steven Flowers. I doubt you studied at Oxford because having studied there myself I can say you would have been ridiculed for your pathetic behaviour, insulting attitude and low IQ.
-----------------
Grow up Steven, you're supposed to be a father soon.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 127 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by MR P BROWN on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 126 (David):
I would like to say sorry for upseting some of the people who have written here
but some of the people here have not included there names others dont even use alive while others dont have proof of what they are saying.
if we kill of the the companys that distribute software the new amiga will have an even harder chance of taking off,
to be honest the some of best supliers of amiga software are epic marketing and the most reliable and fastest our weird sceince.i cant believe you bothered to reply.your right i never went to oxford and never will .
and i have never worked for or had anything to do with alive other than buy software.
sorry about the choice of words
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 122 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 10-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 121 (mr p brown):
Hey Mr.Brown, did your studied in Oxford? :)
Much people is still waiting for their money from Alive Mediasoft since too much time, now it's time to make all stories public against this "so called" Amiga software house.
They owe me £300 btw.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 129 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 12-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Just a thought, how come alive`s homepage is still up and running ??????
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 130 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 13-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Have you seen alives homepage recently, it seems that they are going to try and continue. If you cannot be bothered to go there this what it says.
We Will Never Stop NEVER.
Big news coming soon.
Or could this be a brave face on a sad end.
We will have to see about that will we not. Because if we as a community do not stop them then they will destroy the Amiga market for good.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 131 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Have you seen alives homepage recently, it seems that they are going to try and continue. If you cannot be bothered to go there this what it says.
We Will Never Stop NEVER.
Big news coming soon.
Or could this be a brave face on a sad end.
We will have to see about that will we not. Because if we as a community do not stop them then they will destroy the Amiga market for good.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 132 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Someone on 13-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 131 (Anonymous):
Alive's ISP "InNotts" somehow learnt about the situation between Darkage, GoldED, and Ambermoon...
Now the Shop disappears from their web page. My guess is they have to switch ISP's!
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 135 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 14-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Yes it seems that they are going to stumble on, it just goes to show that alive cannot stop telling lies. How many times is it now alive have said we are closing down. If it is all true about the investigations then have they not got to cease trading while this goes on.
This company will go down in Amiga history as sounding it`s death bell.
Does anybody out there really know what is happening with alive at the present moment ?
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 133 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by nico on 14-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 132 (Someone):
Alive-mediasoft.co.uk is still being hosted by Inotts as from 15-6-00 according to nslookup
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 134 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Paolo "Mod3m" D'Urso on 14-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
They wrote me a new email concerning the missing payments, where they told they'll pay all the debts, but this will take a long time.
In the meanwhile, they're about to release once again their fanzine (it's not a "magazine", as they never registered it as a commercial mag.).
I wonder what Steven will write there, this time :) Writing "d**k-head" again won't solve their problems btw..
Btw, I will made public WHEN and IF Alive Mediasoft will pay me.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 136 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Insider ---/\___ on 15-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
HA ha some inside information for you all interested in what alive are upto.
Firstly it seems that they are to change the release label to alive leisure, also another snippet of inside information is that the Pulse looks set to continue but under a new name i suppose in hope of fooling us. Also the pulse is to change its name, new name be P-CD-1, i assume the second edition will be called P-CD-2.
I can only assume at the moment these things are being done to try and fool you all.
Insider ---/\___
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 139 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 16-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (Bill Eaves):
Yep, right.. even if they change name to their company, people will still remember the name "Flowers"..
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 137 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 16-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (Insider ---/\___):
Really? Where did you know these infos? Please let us know :)
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 138 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Eaves on 16-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 127 (MR P BROWN):
Apology accepted._
I do have records of the exact dates when Alive cashed my cheques and still await software.
They have had 7 months to sort out the order or supply a refund but still have not deleivered.
_
I would also like to stste that I have had no problems with any OTHER Amiga company - onloy Alive.
So it is not a witch hunt, all I want is my refund, which they actuallty promisesd two weeks ago
but still have not delivered
_
I suppose they will fold the company to avoid paying customers and suppliers and then start up again
under a different name. Whatever they call themselves I certainly will not be buying - actually buying
assumes you are sent the goods you order - correction, I will not be ordering anything from them after
past experience.
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Bill.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 140 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Insider---/\___ on 19-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
This maybe of some interest.
http://news.amiga.org/articles/2000/20000620-alivedead.shtml
Insider---/\___
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 141 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 19-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Hmm well after reading through that post regarding Alive leaving the Amiga market it seems that they are not really leaving it at all. Just becareful what you buy in the future you could still be lining his pockets.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 142 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by The Hidden on 24-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Jenny well Steven i know its you, in response to comment 25 in which you
were responding to comment 12 and i will qoute this, "We all know what
happend with Blade, The guy did get paid for years, He stopped getting
paid when he illegally gave the game away for free"
Bull.
I have here an e-mail from the developer saying that he was paid a very
small fee when he signed with you, then nothing you got abusive, would not
tell him how many copies you sold and just did not pay anymore, you Steven
and your two bit company ripped him off so he quit with his amiga and went
to a different platform, oh by the way the reason i got a mail from him
was to ask if i could put Blade on my site, BTW hes exact words were Alive
Mediasoft bankrupted me.
CYA and i would`nt wanna be ya.
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 144 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Chris S on 03-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I just cannot believe the front of mr flowers after what has happened recently with alive mediasoft, he brings out a magazine and expects us to buy it. The other thing is how can other Amiga people help him to do this which looking at the magazine they are doing. Can I suggets that no software/hardware companies advertise in his magazine for there own good.
Chris S
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 143 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by Insider---/\___ on 03-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
So mr flowers is to bring out a magazine and how many does he expect to sell with his track record. If it was the last Amiga magazine in the universe that man would not get any of my hard earned cash. I cannot believe after the way he has bad mouthed so many Amiga people he expects to sell anything. He has almost destroyed the software side of things now he is going to try and destroy the magazine side of things. This person will stop at nothing to screw all faithful Amigians out of there cash and not caring what harm he does whilst doing this.
Insider ---/\___
News from Alive Mediasoft : Comment 145 of 145ANN.lu
Posted by carsec on 01-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Jennie Flowers - Alive mediasoft Ltd.):
you lot can moan all you like but jennie and leane and sexy.
also some of them girls in the pulse modeling the amiga clothes were
hot too....i`d buy their used pantys anyday ;)
you all agree?
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