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Posted on 14-Aug-2002 18:22 GMT by takemehomegrandma96 comments
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This post comes from: http://www.morphos-news.de/?lg=en&nid=57&si=1.

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Wow!

Yesterday, Apple doubled the number of CPUs on their products -- but the price remains the same -- dual 1Ghz G4s for $1699. Unbelievable!

For Raquel and I this means one thing (beyond Apple has finally and completely fallen for the obvious clock speed, etc. numbers game):

Alternative (as in A-Expo, 7-8 September) operating systems have become important -- very important!

This makes us really feel that our approach to *eventually* sell Pegasos main boards as they are is RIGHT ON TARGET. Apple will certainly not do this! Linux or MorphOS interested people want to do what they want to do. Terra Soft has been getting a good initial response to sell YDL pre-installed on iMacs (http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/news/ 2002-08-08.shtml) and you will see the Pegasos on sale there soon. Our flexibility to upgrade to a G4 or dual CPUs, or even multiple boards makes us unique and gives us a competitive advantage over anything else we know about -- including Apple when sold as a main board itself (especially with their overhead!).

Here is what we are doing:

1. We are selling fully configured machines to Betatesters. Things are going well!
2. We will sell a few main boards to highly qualified users who are willing to get other non-standard configurations to work. This will be done on a case by case basis (email us at bbrv@thendic-france.com).
3. We will keep our amiga-oriented market interested over the next month with messages on Morphos-News. We want people using the machines and Team Betatester is all about that. We will show as MANY applications running as possible at the A-Expo, 7-8 September. Later this week we will post a gallery of pictures from last weekend. It was a successful event for us.
4. We are also planning the Frankfurt conference/show for 14 September: BETATESTER I.

When we are ready (which may be sooner than December), we will:

1. Sell main boards worldwide directly or through resellers at one price. Qualified resellers will be discounted from that price.
2. Sell a single or double CPU upgrade package. We can beat the iMac G4 prices easily. We may develop a discount plan when a G3 is returned in good condition (we in turn can donate computers with "used" processors to programs to help disadvantaged children learn about computers or programs like that...your ideas are welcome here!).

Our target markets:

1. Linux users
2. Amiga application users
Later...
3. Mac users with the Thendic smart card reader together with MorphOS on a CD with applications that run with special smart card features, such as, a "secret weapon" for an online game, Pegasos Points to spend at the online store to buy peripherals (DataPlay, ComCam, etc.), and naturally secure communications with our host...etc.. The application is what is promoted. MorphOS is there on the CD to make it happen. Smart cards make us unique and add plenty of interesting and exciting functionality (we will have an smart card SDK for our developers).

Keep your eyes on MorphOS-News...we will keep you posted.

Sincerely,

Raquel and Bill

Pegasos news : Comment 1 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 14-Aug-2002 18:09 GMT
"When we are ready (which may be sooner than December), we will: 1. Sell main boards worldwide directly or through resellers at one price"
This coming from the people that constantly take issue with the Eyetech/Hyperion timelines?
Interesting marketing strategy as well.
Why would I:
1. buy a motherboard to run Linux when these distributions already run on inexpensive Intel/AMD boards?
2. buy a motherboard to run Amiga software when it doesn't support the original OS?
3. buy a motherboard as an alternative to a Mac when it doesn't support OSX?
It's quite clear that in the Amiga side of the market, everyone would benefit if these two camps would bury the hatchet and compete on sanctioned terms.
Pegasos news : Comment 2 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by dakang on 14-Aug-2002 18:38 GMT
Personally I would love to see the Pegasus as an official AmigaOS4 platform alongside AmigaONE I guess this wont happen cos:
- the pegasus is technically superior , more expandable and all the hard work on the AmigaONE will got down the drain cos, at the same price point, more people will go for the Pegasus IMHO.
or
- Thendic refuse to buy a Amiga license
I dont know , i really dont so dont flame me, i'm just looking at this as a Amiga loving, network admin who uses unix and NT far too much nowadays.
But more hardware platforms mean more choice and lower prices so I agree with the last post.
Pegasos news : Comment 3 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 14-Aug-2002 19:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (dakang):
"- the pegasus is technically superior , more expandable and all the hard work on the AmigaONE will got down the drain cos, at the same price point, more people will go for the Pegasus IMHO."
Wouldn't say its more expandable , Yes it has a CPU slot and the AmigaOne doesn't , but the amigaOne has an extra PCI slot .. Yes there is more hardware out there other then CPU's !. And you get the option to trade in you A1Se for an XE with megarray :P
"or
- Thendic refuse to buy a Amiga license
I dont know , i really dont so dont flame me, i'm just looking at this as a Amiga loving, network admin who uses unix and NT far too much nowadays.
But more hardware platforms mean more choice and lower prices so I agree with the last post."
Even i can understand why thendic won't buy an os 4 license .. they have morphOs and its not *their* board , its bplans , i doubt thendic have the technical docs to supply hyperion for an os 4 port anyways... the best option is for someone to give hyperion a pegasos and let them hack it about a bit.
Pegasos news : Comment 4 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by José on 14-Aug-2002 19:13 GMT
"... the pegasus is technically superior , more expandable..."
SOrry you lost it there. That information is NOT known, and fact is both motherboards use the same chipset. Why do you post something that's not known as if you knew it?
Pegasos news : Comment 5 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 14-Aug-2002 19:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (anonymous):
> Why would I:
> 1. buy a motherboard to run Linux when these distributions already run on
> inexpensive Intel/AMD boards?
Well, this is the same for *any* other platform than x86. The only reason I can think of is that perhaps you like the features of the PPC, and appriciate those more than in the x86 architecture? RISC, Altivitec (does Linux make use of that in any way?), etc ...
> 2. buy a motherboard to run Amiga software when it doesn't support the
> original OS?
(I assume that you by "original" mean the upcoming OS4 from Hyperion and not AmigaOS 3.x)
Well, maybe because it (MorphOS):
1. Runs Amiga software (both 68k and PPC).
2. Is all PPC native. Fast! Lean!
3. Has no legacies from the old "original" OS. Fresh! Clean!
4. Has several functions not found in the original OS. Symmetrical Multi Processing (SMP) is one of the more important features that I miss in the upcoming OS4 (at least I can't find it in the specs).
But I guess it's a matter of taste! If you still want to run OS4 (when/if it will become available) I'm sure that there in a matter of time will be a patch/port solution provided by the community that will replace any crippled functions with open ones in your (of course legally purchased) OS, and provide you with all necessary drivers/HAL needed to run it on Pegasos. Time will tell ...
> 3. buy a motherboard as an alternative to a Mac when it doesn't support OSX?
Yes, why would you do that? Has anyone mentioned a possibility to run MacOS natively on Pegasos? In that case I must have missed it! I'm sure it would be technically possible though ...
Well, *later* on I'm sure that there will be a shape shifter solution or similar for MorphOS (I don't think there is one at the moment, but I don't know), so in the meantime you have to run Mac on Linux if you don't want to use Mac hardware ...
Pegasos news : Comment 6 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 14-Aug-2002 19:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (José):
The CPU slot is one *BIG* advantage. That alone makes it superior! Firewire is another feature. Someone mentioned Disc On Chip as an option (but I'm not sure of that). Does A1 have IRDA (maybe I missed it)? And last (but certainly not the least), the formfactor of the A1Full ATX, the Pegasos = Micro ATX! Simple conclusion: Superior hardware!
(BTW, how many PCI slots would a raiser card give? Is it still 3, or could that be increased? Not that it concerns me anyway, everything I need is fitted on the mobo directly anyway. Well, perhaps an extra network card ...)
Pegasos news : Comment 7 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Steff on 14-Aug-2002 20:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (takemehomegrandma):
Please correct me in this but if the Pegasos had cpu slots why would they have to make this offer........"We may develop a discount plan when a G3 is returned in good condition (we in turn can donate computers with "used" processors to programs to help disadvantaged children learn about computers or programs like that...your ideas are welcome here!)"
Sounds to me that these boards are not as uppgradeable as some people think?
Pegasos news : Comment 8 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 14-Aug-2002 21:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Steff):
He ment CPU modules.
(guessing by the Pegasos specs)
Pegasos news : Comment 9 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 14-Aug-2002 21:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Steff):
Sounds like you are not updated. Please have a look at this image:
http://www.thendic-france.com/Tech/US/Products/Pegasos/pegasosio.jpg
Do you see the CPU slot? Oh, and when I now looks at that photo I realize that I forgot to mention that *optical* S/PDIF audio output. One more of those superior features!
Now in the beginning, the Pegasos "Betatester" systems ships with a single G3 CPU module, but if you later on would want to upgrade to, say a *dual* G4, you can trade in your old CPU module to get a discount.
Pegasos news : Comment 10 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 14-Aug-2002 22:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (takemehomegrandma):
The prise of the Pegasos+MorphOS may also be a superior feature compared to A1+OS4, but that remains to be seen.
Pegasos news : Comment 11 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 14-Aug-2002 22:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (takemehomegrandma):
Uhm, I mean "price" ...
Pegasos news : Comment 12 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 15-Aug-2002 02:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (takemehomegrandma):
>Well, this is the same for *any* other platform than x86. The only reason I >can think of is that perhaps you like the features of the PPC, and appriciate >those more than in the x86 architecture? RISC, Altivitec (does Linux make use >of that in any way?), etc ...
Refer to http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/4q99/risc-cisc/rvc-6.html
[Quote]
Both the Athlon and the P6 run the CISC x86 ISA in what amounts to hardware emulation, but they translate the x86 instructions into smaller, RISC-like operations that fed into a fully post-RISC core. Their cores have a number of RISC features (LOAD/STORE memory access, pipelined execution, reduced instructions, expanded register count via register renaming), to which are added all of the post-RISC features we've discussed. The Athlon muddies the waters even further in that it uses both direct execution and a microcode engine for instruction decoding. A crucial difference between the Athlon (and P6) and the G4 is that, as already noted, the Athlon must translate x86 instructions into smaller RISC ops. [/Quote]
Pegasos news : Comment 13 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 15-Aug-2002 02:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Hammer):
Just adding to my post.
Refer to
http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/3q99/k7_theory/k7-two-1.html
Pegasos news : Comment 14 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by dakang on 15-Aug-2002 04:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (José):
Because I am not stuck with a soldered on CPU. Full stop.
Pegasos news : Comment 15 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 15-Aug-2002 05:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Hammer):
But this doesn't change the fact, that x86 CPU is presented to the outside world (programers, compilers) as 'crappy old couple registers CPU'.
Pegasos news : Comment 16 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 15-Aug-2002 05:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (brotheris):
Not really... registers arn't "presented to the outside world" unless your OS of choice is MSDos's "debug" utility.
What's presented to the outside world is an OS running on a damn fast processor.
If you fail the speed test as observed by an end user running an OS, all the other factory quib-trivia isn't worth jack, Jack.
Pegasos news : Comment 17 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 05:37 GMT
Im probably going to get flamed for this but where is the new information in this
press release? Sounds more like Thendic want to keep a topic a day on the news fora than anything new has been released.
Editorialise about Apple and old stuff rehashed.
Why do they keep doing this?
Pegasos news : Comment 18 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Hammer on 15-Aug-2002 06:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (brotheris):
> But this doesn't change the fact, that x86 CPU is presented to the outside
> world (programers, compilers) as 'crappy old couple registers CPU'.
But this doesn't change the fact that the x86 CPU brings in the money in real and practical terms. Also, I don’t think every practical "application programmers" will go to "low level programming" at a daily basis.
Pegasos news : Comment 19 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 15-Aug-2002 06:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (DaveW):
>>Sounds more like Thendic want to keep a topic a day on the news fora than anything new has been released.
>>Editorialise about old stuff rehashed.
>>Why do they keep doing this?
Maybe you can tell me why you dont complain about the same thing when AmigaInc does the same thing continuously with os4? Maybe it's because you don't have anything personal against them?
Besides, if you try to market something, you got to be in the headlines from time to time or else ppl will forget you (even if that means announcing old stuff in a "new" way)
Now don't take that as a flame as it's definitely not intended that way. It was just my observation/opinion based on your previous postings and preferences.
Pegasos news : Comment 20 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 15-Aug-2002 06:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (anonymous):
>>Why would I:
>>2. buy a motherboard to run Amiga software when it doesn't support the original OS?
You can run os3.9 on it and to this date it's still the latest version of amigaOS you can have on your amiga. Of course there's os4 on the way (soon!?)
but that too is based heavily on os3.9 with exceptions that don't need to be re-introduced here as Im sure everyone know them already.
>>3. buy a motherboard as an alternative to a Mac when it doesn't support OSX?
If I remember correctly there was a post on ann not too long ago by thendic that they had tested pegasos working fine with macOS 9 and that they had hopes of being able to do the same thing with osX (of course depending on what apple will do with their product eventually)
Pegasos news : Comment 21 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 15-Aug-2002 07:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (anonymous):
whoops I remembered wrong that it was a thendic announcement... anyway read this and you'll see that there is a way that might be able to make osX run on pegasos. Of course it's not the same as running a native mac though.
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1027091574&category=unmoderated&start=1&28
Pegasos news : Comment 22 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 07:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (gz):
> Maybe you can tell me why you dont complain about the same thing when AmigaInc does the same thing continuously with os4? Maybe it's because you don't have anything personal against them?
Sure. Im happy to. In fact if you actually read my entire posting history you would
see me responding to AInc announcements over 12 months ago flaming them totally for
not saying anything new.
Im glad we agree that this is just marketing, I just clicked on this hoping to read
something new and exciting and was just totally dissapointed. Nothing personal about it.
The only thing I have "personal" against Thendic is how they tried to dig up dirt on
someone who disagreed with them in this forum but I dont see how *that* incident has any
bearing on either this rehash or my not understanding what was new.
I was hoping that someone could point out what I had clearly missed so I could
say "oh I see, sorry!".
Pegasos news : Comment 23 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Timothy De Groote on 15-Aug-2002 07:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (gz):
OS4 heavily based on 3.9 ??
What kind of a bullshit talk is that ? It is taking so long because it is exactly the opposite !
OS4 has a new kernel, new Filesystem, new TCP/IP stack, new Movieplayer, lots of enhanchements and you call it based on 3.9 ? 3.9 is based on OS4.
Writing an Emulator emulating the AmigaOS adding somestuff would have been EASY, humm that reminds me of something :)
Gz: you know NOTHING about OS4, absolutely nothing, you *think*
Pegasos news : Comment 24 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 07:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Timothy De Groote):
Sorry for sticking my oar in but: "3.9 is based on OS4."
eh?
Pegasos news : Comment 25 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Alex on 15-Aug-2002 07:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (gz):
> You can run os3.9 on it and to this date it's still the latest version
> of amigaOS you can have on your amiga.
Hmm, I wasn't aware that OS3.9 could be run on the Pegasos.
I had thought that the license that came with OS3.9 prevented it being legally installed on any non-Amiga hardware?
Cheers,
Alex.
Pegasos news : Comment 26 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 07:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (DaveW):
OK Ill answer my own original point, its not evident from the version on here
that it isnt a press release per se but an open letter. If you go to the MorphOS news
site it is titled Open Letter.
So its not new news from Thendic, not a press release but it is news that they have put together
this Open Letter.
<-- finally understands.
It would be nit picking in the extreme to suggest that Open Letters should be reposted
as Open Letters - and not nit picking at all to suggest that I should have followed
the link.
mea culpa.
Pegasos news : Comment 27 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 15-Aug-2002 07:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (DaveW):
Well, I partly agree with you, but some new things were mentioned:
Their offering will be competetive compared to Mac hardware, even now after the new Mac product line is presented.
They will also sell some Betatester mainboards without the other HW to some selected people willing to get other HW than the pre-configured "Betatester" to work. That is a good idea!
They may develop a discount plan when you want to upgrade your CPU module and you return the old one, allthough this of course remains to be seen.
They may ship the finnished product sooner than December, allthough this of course remains to be seen.
Pegasos news : Comment 28 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 07:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (takemehomegrandma):
Do you know if the CPU modules are a proprietary solution or if they will allow
third parties to develop CPU module add ons through open schematics or licensing?
Sorry to bombard you with questions, but you seem pretty aware of what is going on
a la Pegasos.
Pegasos news : Comment 29 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 15-Aug-2002 08:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (DaveW):
Sorry, but I don't know anything about that.
Pegasos news : Comment 30 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Timothy De Groote on 15-Aug-2002 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (DaveW):
well, it's a matter of looking what is different in OS4 compared to 3.9
OS4 is a PPC Native kernel with as much as possible OS3.1 sourcecode *we do have that* changed into C , so compilable for PPC Native.
While some members of the OS4 team work on the Kernel and such others who don't own PPC boards yet, reengineer core OS components into C, so as soon as the Kernel and the emulator are working fine *btw, i'm not saying they are NOT right now :)* .
So in essence OS3.9 runs on top of a new CORE.
I reacted a bit harsh perhaps in previous post but i KNOW how much effort THomasF is putting into OS4 and calling OS4 some rehash of 3.9 with patches is unfair.
Dave W, you seem a bit more sensible then others here. good :)
Pegasos news : Comment 31 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Frank on 15-Aug-2002 08:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (DaveW):
DaveW:
OS4 is the new base that also gives all of the 3.9 features (and
it gives lots more than the OS3.9 for all RTG-compatible
applications).
Very funny ... "bla bla, its OS3.9-based "... :)
OS 3.9 was a 68k- & AmigaCustomChipDesign-dependent OS.
OS4 ist a PPC OS sitting on a HAL with a lot of new components :)
All important parts are, or will be _changed_.
A few rather unimportant (to port it at first) parts are still
OS3.x-based parts, and running in the emulation.
May he meaned this :)
Pegasos news : Comment 32 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Timothy De Groote):
Im with you now. Thanks for explaining that.
Pegasos news : Comment 33 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Sjoerd on 15-Aug-2002 08:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
>but the amigaOne has an extra PCI slot ..
ONLY if you are using a PCI GFX card. Otherwise you have just 3 PCI and 1 AGP slot.
AGP and PCI 66 MHz slot are shared, you may use 1 of them not both.
Bye,
Sjoerd
Pegasos news : Comment 34 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Timothy De Groote on 15-Aug-2002 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Sjoerd):
YOu can still use the extra PCI slot but the AGP slot will be x1 instead of x2 then.
Anyways, the discussion about PCI slots is not relevan IMHO.
Even if the Mediator had only 3 slots i would have bought it :)
Pegasos news : Comment 35 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 15-Aug-2002 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Timothy De Groote):
New Filesystem,TCP/IP stack, Movieplayer were done before AmigaOS4, Barthel was showing the Filesystem,TCP/IP stack last summer/fall, and the MoviePlayer is a trivial GUI ontop of some algorithms, nothing revolutionary about any of that stuff, and there will be an emulator in "OS4", since many of the contractors are developing on 68k only systems, and in order for their stuff to work on OS4 it will be emulated. Don't get confused, MorphOS is far advanced of what OS4 aspires to be in it's first incarnation, in time OS4 may or may not catch up.
Pegasos news : Comment 36 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (MIKE):
I have developed software to work on 68k based AmigaOS and it will, with the minimum
of effort in testing work on AOS4 when I get my AOS4 system through the mail.
Why?
Cross-compilers allow you to develop on one platform and generate code for another. Just because
some developers are still working on 68k systems does not mean the end result will not run native.
Your case just dissapeared.
Pegasos news : Comment 37 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 15-Aug-2002 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (takemehomegrandma):
> Well, I partly agree with you, but some new things were mentioned:
What caught my eye and what I haven't seen before is that Terrasoft (YDL) will be selling Pegasoses.
They have quite a PPC shop going on. Macs, briQs, rackservers with Mac mobos, Pegasoses...
Good news for the Pegasos, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Pegasos news : Comment 38 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 15-Aug-2002 13:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (gz):
Somehow I very much doubt Apple in particular, or Amiga are going to allow their operating systems to run on the Pegasos - either natively or through emulation.
And before anyone jumps on the technical feasibility bandwagon, the point really boils down to IP. In Apple's case, right or wrong, competing with them on equal terms is a pipe dream.
Given Bill McEwen's recent comments, I get the impression that they're too keen on letting someone else cannibalize their market either.
Pegasos news : Comment 39 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 15-Aug-2002 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (DaveW):
You're being sucked into the vortex dude. ;)
Press release, open letter or Magna Carta -- the point is that it's all grist for the mill. The difference is the strategy is becoming more benign - let the minions do the posting!
Pegasos news : Comment 40 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 15-Aug-2002 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (anonymous):
Regarding apple, I don't know... They don't care about
the ridiculous amiga users base anyways...
Regarding AOS related OSes, it's clear that letting
both OSes run on both hardwares, and making easier
to make most programs systematically work on both OSes would really
be essential to preserve our community : as there are
MANY people who totally reject MOS or totally reject AOS4.
Dividing our low developers numbers by 2 would be sheer suicide.
(the first ones : b/c it's not the official one, the second
ones, b/c there feel very strong about this new / clean
OS that was initiated much before OS 4)
--> it's not possible to force Amiga or MOS fanatics to change their
mind so cooperation is needed, b/c, (it won't please everyone),
MOS really stems from the amiga, really is close to Amiga OS,
so none of those OS'es is more legitimate than the other.
Pegasos news : Comment 41 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (anonymous):
LOL!!!!!
Pegasos news : Comment 42 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv@thendic-france.com on 15-Aug-2002 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (DaveW):
@DaveW(inchester)
Relax!
Have some fun with all these ideas and think about something new!
Last Post for the Night!
Regards,
Bill
Pegasos news : Comment 43 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 15-Aug-2002 17:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Timothy De Groote):
PCI slot 1 and AGP are shared on the AmigaONE ? Ew.
Admittedly a lot of cards (except for nvidia's newer cards perhaps) don't really make full use of AGP 2X let alone 4X, but that still shows poor hardware design.
Does anyone know if this is a limitation of the northgate (the Arctica S ?) or if this is just an AONE specific thing ?
Pegasos news : Comment 44 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 20:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 ([JC]):
Many PC motherboard have shard slots etc , causing IRQ nightmares etc ..
Anyone care to post a link of where it states that the two are shared ?.
Still i'd rather have 3 PCI slots free weither i'm using an AGP or PCI graphics card and i guess thats the idea .
Pegasos news : Comment 45 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Jürgen Lange on 16-Aug-2002 00:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (DaveW):
> Why do they keep doing this?
Hi, DaveW, I think you have to be more open minded. Perhaps
Thendic-France has something to offer by now (BETATESTER). And they
will have something to offer in the near future.
Their message by now is one for people like me using Amithlon and a
x86 cpu. It's saying: Have a look, PPC solutions will be cheaper in
the near future and they will be more powerfull and we are able to
follow this direction by changing a module on our motherboard.
Pegasos news : Comment 46 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 04:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (bbrv@thendic-france.com):
Who is this Dave Winchester????
Pegasos news : Comment 47 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 04:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Jürgen Lange):
Your probably right :)
Pegasos news : Comment 48 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (DaveW):
**Speculative** Answer: Buck, trying to appear smart again, does an nslookup on ip address and gets
address of proxy gateway. Thinks all users are geographicly located next to proxy
and speculates that my name is Dave [location] where locationWinchester.
LOL!
**If the case**, its just as good as your "digging dirt" episode for general actual
cluelessness of how intranet to internet links work compared to how clued up you try so desperately
to appear.
**further to if the case** If you want to appear the all knowing guru with adulating fans fawning over your
every move get some products out the door. Im sure there are many left in the
"community" that want to worship some idol.
Im pretty sure Im right, but Im prepared to be corrected. So please, go ahead Bill and
correct me.
Pegasos news : Comment 49 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Aug-2002 07:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Timothy De Groote):
> 3.9 is based on OS4.
Excuse me?
Pegasos news : Comment 50 of 96ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Aug-2002 07:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 ([JC]):
It's an Articia S "limitation".
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