| [News] Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 02-Jun-2003 22:04 GMT by Mikey_C | 151 comments
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As Amiga OS4 for AmigaOne and CSPPC based machines nears completion, Hyperion is undertaking a survey to gauage demand for the BPPC version
Therefore if you are an Amiga1200 owner with a Dual Blizzard PPC card and would like to see OS4 ported to this machine, please send an email to: timdg@hyperion-entertainment.com
Please note: Ensuring that OS4 will work on the BPPC is a momumental task which will require enormous effort in both Time and Money. Therefore only email us if you have every intention of purchasing OS4 for BPPC.
Your support is very much appreciated in this matter.
Ben Hermans.
Hyperion-Entertainment
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 101 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Olegil on 03-Jun-2003 11:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 86 (DaveP):
Well, with Samface we get more bang for the buck. :-) |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 102 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Olegil on 03-Jun-2003 11:45 GMT | In reply to Comment 99 (Deniil):
Oh, don't worry. I think the BPPC version would NEVER delay an AmigaOne version.
But if I had a BPPC, I would very much like to get OS4 for it. I don't, though. Since Datakompaniet never actually managed to get me one. I prepaid and waited almost a year before they gave me a bunch of other things I wanted for the same price. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 103 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Olegil on 03-Jun-2003 11:59 GMT | In reply to Comment 99 (Deniil):
Why not use OS4 on the BPPC? I can hardly think it would be slower than OS3.9 or MOS? |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 104 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cheesegrate on 03-Jun-2003 12:28 GMT | >As Amiga OS4 for AmigaOne and CSPPC based machines nears completion,
that sounds like fleecy lie to saku user group couple of years ago 'as os4 nears completion i can't show up blah blah '
mikeyc please stop your fanatic blah and tell the truth. os4 for csppc is nearing completion..
and who engineered csppc? oh just the people from bplan |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 105 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 12:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 91 (AmosHaxor):
1+1 is equal to 2, you know. You said you didn't trust the chipset and that you had talked to a former contractor about the ArticiaS. If that doesn't mean that there would be something wrong with the chipset then I don't know what does.
You know just as damn well as me that your post was nothing but pure flame bait, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it. In fact, your need for saying it was so strong that you even jumped into my discussion with someone else to say it. I didn't ask you a damn thing and suddenly there you were, talking about your "reasons" for not trusting the chipset and selling your AmigaOne on Amibench. Did I ask you to tell me this? No.
Enough about this already. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 106 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 12:46 GMT | In reply to Comment 38 (samface):
Samface, will you ever shut the *F|_|C|<* up? People call me a troll and with
replies like that, it's perfectly justified, but YOU are BEYOND that! You're not
just a troll, you're a *CLUELESS* troll that claims to know a lot...
I'll just point to an example... At a specific thread while you kept saying that
it's not possible to read a rom... *LOL*... You insisted... You called us
clueless and liars... You twisted words around. YES, I can be considered a troll
but I never go to THOSE depths... You... *SUCK* |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 107 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 12:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 57 (James Sellman):
Actually there is an interrupt controller and other stuff on the BPPC but they
are totally undocumented to anyone except exP5 and Genesi. The WarpOS developers
had no info about such stuff and implemented it in a way that it can work, even
if that's not the right way. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 108 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 13:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 104 (cheesegrate):
Try not to go beyond your own wit, there was no need for that attack on Mikey.
I find it amusing that the same people who are now claiming positive PhaseV links were slamming people 9-18 months ago who were pointing out those same PhaseV-BPlan links for not so positive reasons.
Cake. Eat. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 109 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 03-Jun-2003 13:03 GMT | In reply to Comment 95 (MarktTime):
For somebody always raving on about MorphOS, you are quite insistent about getting OS 4 on your Blizzard, aren't you?
What' s the matter, MorphOS suddenly not enough for you anymore?
Anyway, we never said we were never going to do it, we said that we wanted to evaluate market intrest.
And incidentally, if you bought a BlizzardPPC on the basis of OS 4 coming out for it, you bought it second hand. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 110 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 13:05 GMT | In reply to Comment 80 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
That's the problem. That's exactly why Genesi will release the PUP version for
free, to avoid such a support NIGHTMARE. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 111 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 03-Jun-2003 13:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 100 (Peter Gordon):
"But they never said that there was definately going to be a BPPC version. They said CSPPC now, A1 later, then maybe BPPC. Thats all I ever recall them saying."
That is my recollection, too. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 112 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by ehaines on 03-Jun-2003 13:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 95 (MarktTime):
The only thing outrageous and sick are your delusions. I don't see how
Hyperion can be responsible for your belief in things that were never
announced. Let's see, why I don't I throw a hissy fit because I imagined
that Hyperion were going to send me a free AmigaOne + OS4, and they won't?
Makes as much sense. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 113 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 14:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 95 (MarktTime):
>> You defending Hyperions is OUTRAGEOUS....its SICK....
Defending the innocent is sick? Hmmmm....
>> this type of behaviour, now being displayed by Hyperion, is pure AMIGA INC.
TWO PEAS IN A POD.
Why don't you post us a link to where Hyperion said that they were definately going to port OS4 to the BLIZZARD (Not the Cyberstorm). I won't hold my breath....
> I just bought a towerized A1200, as soon as it arrives, I'm selling it again.
Why? What's wrong with running OS4 on your A1200 using a Mediator/Shark? I have to admit, as well as purchasing an AmigaOne when OS4 comes out I will also upgrade my A1200T with a Shark should OS4 be ported to it.
However, Hyperion say they can't port OS4 to the Shark until Elbox give them a system and Elbox say they won't hand over a system until OS4 is running (on a Cyberstorm I presume). Stay tuned...... |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 114 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 14:25 GMT | In reply to Comment 111 (Don Cox):
The exact quote is:
"I've ALWAYS said we would release OS 4 first for the Cyberstorm (and hopefully the BlizzardPPC) and then for the AmigaOne." |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 115 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 03-Jun-2003 15:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 106 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I *never* said it was impossible to read a ROM, otherwise it would be a NOM (NO Memory). However, I do remember a certain thread where we talked about the legal issues involved with using a system ROM/BIOS with emulation. But let's not start that again...
Anyway, when are you going to learn that arguing about one thing does not prove the other? I fail to see how the ROM issue has anything with this thread nor how it would somehow prove you right in this particular matter.
This is not the first time you attempt to win the argument through slander, Alkis. Grow up already. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 116 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 03-Jun-2003 15:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 106 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
BTW, clueless liars? Name calling is your department, not mine. I would never degrade myself to that level and I dare you to prove me wrong.
Where do you get all this crap from? I *think* I know what you're talking about but you're so far off the mark it's scary. That is plain slander, Alkis. Check your facts before trying to throw mud like that, otherwise it could backfire with twice the force, you know. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 117 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 15:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 115 (Samface):
ARGH! Yes you did, I can give you a link for that...
You claimed that the ROM was only read on system initialization and that reading
it would need special tools and claim some legal stuff afterwars. MANY people
can confirm that as a *FACT* and I *CAN* find a link if you want it so much... |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 118 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 15:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 116 (Samface):
The truth hurts a lot Samface, I'll post a link ASAP. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 119 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 03-Jun-2003 15:56 GMT | In reply to Comment 118 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I'm waiting. This will be interesting. =) |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 120 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Darrin on 03-Jun-2003 16:43 GMT | In reply to Comment 118 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
@ Alkis & Samface:
You know, the way you two argue, people are going to think you're married to each other!!! :-) |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 121 of 151 | ANN.lu |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 122 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 17:06 GMT | In reply to Comment 121 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Now, you can twist the words there in whichever way you want... It won't change
the fact that you said that and INSISTED... Ok, you didn't call us liars, you
implied we're clueless... |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 123 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jun-2003 17:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 122 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Oh I now know well what to expect. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 124 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 17:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 122 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Let me comment an extract.
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Posted by Samface (217.215.90.37 ) on 26-Apr-2002 10:00:23
In Reply to Comment 265 :
Ok, I must admitt, you just taught me something I didn't know before. Thank you. :-)
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Here, you admitted that you're technically incompetent and really had NO idea
about what you were talking, raving, flaming about and then, repeating it all over.
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To the rest of those still reading this thread; I don't have to point out that this of course doesn't affect the point I was trying to make, or do I?
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This shows that you will never stop your holy war even if you claim *BULLSHIT*. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 125 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 17:15 GMT | In reply to Comment 123 (DaveP):
You can expect 4 stuff:
1) Him, admitting it and shutting the fuck up (unlikely).
2) Him, shutting the fuck up without posting anything (not too likely either).
3) Him, twisting the facts around (the most likely and frequent thing he does).
4) Him, claiming that I faked that (he's not that stupid though, HIGHLY unlikely).
1&2 = No flamewar.
3&4 = MASSIVE flamewar. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 126 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 03-Jun-2003 17:44 GMT | In reply to Comment 122 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
What did I lie about? You claimed that I had said that the ROM was not possible to read from, I didn't. Look again, I even talked about ROM dumping.
Sure, I had the incorrect interpretation that applications was restricted from direct access to the ROM. Björn Hagström corrected me and I gratefully thanked him for pointing out my error and giving me a detailed explanation on how ROM access on the Amiga works.
Yes, I didn't know this specific technical detail. So? The thread was about legal issues concerning ROM dumping and this little minor detail did not even make one bit of a difference to the subject.
Regarding the ROM dumping interface, I had just read about such things while researching the legal issues surrounding ROM dumping which was an assumption made out of insufficient knowledge about it. Yes, it was wrong and I've admitted to it already. All I'm saying here is that I didn't simply make it up, I had read about it and reading has always been a great way of learning for me. I had come to the wrong conclusions, I'm deeply sorry, Mr. I've-never-been-wrong-in-my-entire-life.
Anyway, what is your point with all this, Alkis? How come you drag this more than a year old issue back up again? How is any of this supposed to make you more right in THIS thread, today? What does your supposedly "samface made an erranous statement once in his life on the 12th of April 2002" link got to do with anything?
Read after me:
SLANDERING DOES NOT AN ARGUMENT FOR YOUR CAUSE MAKE.
Like I've said so many times before, it's pathetic and only the act of a desperate man to start throwing mud when you've run out of real arguments. This is so obvious, Alkis. Instead, why not just try to counter argue like the smart person you claim to be rather than degrading yourself to the level of personal attacks and slander? |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 127 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 03-Jun-2003 17:47 GMT | In reply to Comment 125 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I went for 5, admitting but questioning your agenda with this off-topic mud slinging. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 128 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 17:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 126 (Samface):
You claimed that it isn't possible for software to access the ROM and that only
hardware reads it on boot AND that the ROM "decides" (to use your words) what
is accessible and what is not. After that, you claimed that dumping the kickstart
is not possible without external hardware.
*ALL* of the above are wrong...
Let me C&P some stuff you wrote...
Posted by Samface (217.215.90.37 ) on 26-Apr-2002 07:28:25
In Reply to Comment 236 :
I don't think you seem to realize how a ROM works. Only the hardware can read from it which it does when booting up, everything else rus ontop of it but that doesn't mean all applications has access directly to the information stored in the ROM directly. Only the ROM itself decides which information is available to the applications. In order to get the information in the ROM, the information needs to be dumped somewhere (normally in RAM or on the HD), accessing it directly is impossible.
Think of the ROM as when you launch an application, what is available to you is only the running process, not the actual ROM file.
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BEEP! All wrong.
Anders asked:
How can a piece of software dump this ROM as it appears to be "directly impossible" according to this post ?
You replied:
Posted by Samface (217.215.90.37 ) on 26-Apr-2002 08:22:46
In Reply to Comment 258 :
Through some kind of special interface linked to the ROM itself whereby its internal code can then be "dumped".
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BEEP! Wrong.
Posted by Samface (217.215.90.37 ) on 26-Apr-2002 08:27:36
In Reply to Comment 259 :
Besides, if this was true, that it's mapped into physical RAM, then why do applications like Blizzkick exist at all?
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To allow the ROM to be RELOCATABLE to RAM, that is, for applications to be able
to actually find it, after it's in RAM.
zacman asked about hacks&patches, your reply was:
Posted by Samface (217.215.90.37 ) on 26-Apr-2002 11:48:58
In Reply to Comment 271 :
BTW: Yes, patching the ROM is illegal as well.
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Beep, no it's not, it's perfectly legal.
I won't go on... You posted WAY too much nonsense there... That's not one minor
technical detail, you got the whole concept wrong and kept spreading your clueless arguements. Face it... You're incompetent.
Almost nothing you said was valid. More precisely... *NOTHING* technical you
said was more than 1% valid. What does this show? |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 129 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2003 18:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 126 (Samface):
BTW, the whole point is that you should stop talking about stuff you don't know
a RAT'S SHIT about. You did that there, you did that here (by seeing something
NOBODY else in that forum saw in a posting) and you generally do it in every
thread you post in. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 130 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 18:47 GMT | If you could read this far you need to take few BEERS and fix that CAPSLOCK :-)
Get some life, it's summer out there :-) At least it beats this fighting here.
cheers! |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 131 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by dennis on 03-Jun-2003 19:25 GMT | wasn't the mediator plus sharkPPC supposed to be running OS4 thanks to elbox parnership with amiga inc.?
I know that they appear to have backtracked on this but IF this is going ahead, then Hyperion will have to deal with almost all these complex issues relating to strange add-ons/hacks regardless of whether or not the BPPC is going to be supported also.
If they have not backtracked on this partnership, then whats the big deal with supporting the BPPC ? |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 132 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 03-Jun-2003 20:08 GMT | | Well, if Amiga Inc. does the unexpected and actually honors the coupon entitling to a free copy of OS4 that I received with the PartyPack, then yes, I want OS4 for my BPPC. Otherwise, not interested. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 133 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 20:21 GMT | In reply to Comment 45 (AmosHaxor):
Either put up or shut up, my sources disagree with you.
Cheers |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 134 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 20:36 GMT | In reply to Comment 94 (Xeyes):
LOL :) |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 135 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 20:49 GMT | Just to clarify my post to AmosHaxor (hope i remember the spelling correctly),
i would like to discuss these issue's, if not here, then in private mails.
If AmosHaxor isn't, then i would like him to drop the subject, infact, it should
not have been raised at all (not by amoshaxor, samface, me or anyone unless they
are able to provide new insights)
I think i know whom to contact about the ArticiaS issue (and whom AmosHaxor
contacted) but i will allow him himself to reply here first.
If you don't want to amoshaxor, then fine, next time, don't raise the subject
again ok?
Also, samface & Alkis, could you both please drop it?
Cheers
(PS: yes, my previous post to amoshaxor should have been this one, i reacted
badly, no flames from me tho) |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 136 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Jun-2003 21:35 GMT | Just to add some more speculation to the fire...
I did some research about MAI, ArticiaS & products that use them, and the most intresting company that i encountered was Inguard.
(http://www.inguard.com/index_en.html), although it's hard to tell just how
well their products run, they do seem to be into servers, and these servers use
the ArticiaS (Also, the company is part of "Atum Business Group", just like MAI is)
Also, it seems impossible to find any public post whatsoever related to possible problems with articiaS on the net that didn't come from Bill Buck, and if Inguard's products truly work the way they claim i'd be very suprised that there *are* problems with it.
However, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)
Cheers
PS: I will continue my digging about these issue's, these need to be resolved ASAP for once & for all |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 137 of 151 | ANN.lu |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 138 of 151 | ANN.lu |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 139 of 151 | ANN.lu |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 140 of 151 | ANN.lu |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 141 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by JoannaK on 03-Jun-2003 22:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 132 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
Teemu:
"Well, if Amiga Inc. does the unexpected and actually honors the coupon entitling to a free copy of OS4 that I received with the PartyPack, then yes, I want OS4 for my BPPC. Otherwise, not interested."
Agree.. I have no BPPC currently but if that OS appears as promiced it's still most likely target system for me due it's price. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 142 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by T_Bone on 03-Jun-2003 22:21 GMT | In reply to Comment 135 (Amon_Re):
> I think i know whom to contact about the ArticiaS issue (and whom AmosHaxor
> contacted) but i will allow him himself to reply here first.
If it's who I think it is, he's not going to be happy about people trying to drag him into another ArticiaS flamewar. I heard his employer already warned him about "dancing on the NDA" or something like that. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 143 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by T_Bone on 03-Jun-2003 22:24 GMT | In reply to Comment 132 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
> Well, if Amiga Inc. does the unexpected and actually honors the coupon
> entitling to a free copy of OS4 that I received with the PartyPack, then
> yes, I want OS4 for my BPPC. Otherwise, not interested.
"Unexpected?" I'm claiming ignorance here, but arn't you "supposed" to recieve a free OS4? Why's it unexpected? Has something changed with respect to the party pack? |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 144 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 04-Jun-2003 04:47 GMT | In reply to Comment 129 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
No Alkis, all you proved by that example was that I listen to reason and admitt when I'm wrong. You really should read my previous post again, it seems that you skipped reading most of it.
I do not see something others don't, it's in black and white that he started to talk about the ArticiaS issue while all I was asking was why AmigaOS4 for the Pegasos. Look for yourself, it's not hidden or anything.
Now, enough about this already. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 145 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Jun-2003 05:23 GMT | In reply to Comment 142 (T_Bone):
Erm, what flamewars would that be? the only flamewars related to Articia are those in the Amiga community
Cheers |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 146 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 04-Jun-2003 05:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 143 (T_Bone):
Nope. It's just more FUD. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 147 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Man on the moon on 04-Jun-2003 09:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 109 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Words words words... when will ya stfu and stop spreading misleading information, Mr Hermans?
Why doing such a poll now, when *nothing* real is out? Why not concetrate on developing the OS, making it first available for CSPPC and/or A1 and then, only *then*, give your mouth some fresh air with silly questions?
If this is the way Hyperion supports existing Amiga community without delivering the promised AOS4.0 for BPPC owners (which incidentally is still the majority), then they can take their OS4.0 and put up in their fscking a55e5.
We will go for a ride with the MorphGayOS instead. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 148 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Jun-2003 10:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 144 (samface):
I skipped reading it? Excuse me? I *WAS* in that flamewar Sam, I remembered what
was being said even before I found it again. Yes, you proved your incompetence,
you used a wrong point as your arguement, you were proved wrong and yet, you
continued using another TOTALLY wrong point in your arguement... Points are like
dominoes Sam, if one falls, the rest falls quickly. Patching the anything in
the OS, including ROM code is perfectly legal. For the first, there are OS functions that let you do it. And the Amiga Kickstart ROM is part of the Amiga
hardware, MorphOS 0.4 used the Amiga Hardware. It's legal to use the hardware
AND the ROM as long as you don't dump it and move it elsewhere. If it was on PCs
and used ROM images it would be illegal. It doesn't. It was on the Amiga and used
the Amiga hardware minus the 68k CPU. You pointed out all useless cases, even
the AMax one won't do cause it's about using the ROM on a DIFFERENT machine,
not on the machine itself.
And then you proved that you have NO CLUE about Amigas, when you said that old
games use the ROM as they would need to have "Memory managers", "Drivers" etc...
You have NO CLUE as to how the Amiga and most old, ROM based consoles work.
They bang the hardware DIRECTLY. They poke at it's registers DIRECTLY. They manage their memory DIRECTLY (usually statically).
This is NO PC, where you have to use drivers for everything.
Every arguement you used was WRONG while most were even CLUELESS. |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 149 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Gregg on 04-Jun-2003 11:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 24 (DaveP):
Shh! Don't mention the MOS! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it...
Of course, I hadn't factored samface's dogged pursuit of ridicule into the equation. samface, agent of chaos...
Gregg |
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| Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey : Comment 150 of 151 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 04-Jun-2003 15:39 GMT | In reply to Comment 143 (T_Bone):
Amiga Inc. actually fulfilling any of their obligations would be unexpected to me, based on their track record. Sammy and co, feel free to shout the magic 3-letter word.
Anyway, it's hardly a matter of life and death to me. If I get OS4, fine. If I dont't, that's fine too. I'm not going to fight it. It'll be just another reason not to take anything Amiga Inc. say seriously. |
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