| [Web] July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 01-Jul-2003 09:56 GMT by Lando (Edited on 2003-07-02 08:45:15 GMT by Christian Kemp) | 213 comments
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The July Edition of the [..] online newsletter for Club Amiga members has been released and is available to club members at http://os.amiga.com/cam.
All in all it makes very interesting reading.
Highlights include the latest update on OS4 from Hyperion's Ben Hermans, Fleecy's regular editorial (which is amusing as ever), and the experiences of an AmigaOne XE owner and an AmigaDE developer.
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 151 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 02-Jul-2003 21:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 138 (Samface):
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It's been perfectly clear from day one of Eyetech's prerelease of the AmigaOne that it is just that; a prerelease. That is not an excuse, that's a fact.
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Show me where either Eyetech or Amiga Inc has said that by buying Amiga Ones before AmigaOS 4.0 was available you would not qualify for the rebate. I'll save you some time, neither company has ever said that. Thats the line of the current apologists, but no offical post has ever said that.
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The rebate offer from Amiga Inc. was also perfectly clear from day one that you would not get the rebate until *both* the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 (which is even required by the licensing terms of AmigaOS4 to be bundled, remember?) is released. Eyetech already got a license to using AmigaOne as a trademark for their product prior to when the licensing scheme was dictated, which makes it more than just silly if Amiga Inc. would somehow prevent Eyetech from releasing their hardware until AmigaOS4 was completed because of this offer to their Club Amiga members.
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Sorry thats not true at all Samface. Read the original info from Bill McEwen, he in fact says the offer is good for an AmigaOne OR AmigaOS. People have bought AmigaOnes, they are owed there rebates, period. They cant pay them, because they are broke, and now have you implying that they have yet to meet the requirements of the rebate. If they had any money, someone would sue them over this, since they don't it doesnt make sense to get a lawyer involved.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 152 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 21:36 GMT | In reply to Comment 143 (Anonymous):
>The original sCAM coupon was $50 off the purchase of EITHER an AmigaOne OR
>AmigaOS4.
...when *both* were available. The prerelease on the initiative of a third party was not included in this offer, end of story.
>Oh, and some sCAM members have tried to get their money back from AInc, to
>absolutely no avail. That is also fact.
Which I doubt. But if it's true, you do have a National Board for Consumer Policies, right?
What I fail to see is why stating this over and over and over and over and over (etc.) again in public forums would help anyone. There are ways for sorting this kind of issues out, slandering people in public is not one of them. Since it's obvious that you are not interested in solving the issue, what is your agenda? Care to answer that question for me, mr Anonymous? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 153 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 21:41 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Tigger):
See comment #152, first paragraph.
Furthermore, the deal is for what was included in the offer, nothing more, nothing less. Tell me where the offer states that it would also cover a prerelease initiated by a third party. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 154 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 21:55 GMT | In reply to Comment 153 (Samface):
Perhaps this answer from Fleecy Moss will clear a few things up for you:
--- Quote from http://amigaworld.net/modules/fleecymoss/index.php?cat_id=10 ---
2) rayt: Will the coupons be delivered before OS4/csppc is finished so that we can get $50 rebate immediately after it is released?
Fleecy: We have had a lot of issues with creating a valid solution for the 'vouchers', mainly in terms of validation and acceptance by dealers. Given that an AmigaOne is a certified piece of hardware that comes with an AmigaOS4.0 OEM CD bundle and that the CSPPC AmigaOS4.0 product is a shrinkwrap, AmigaOS4.0 is the common factor and so we are considering either placing the voucher within the AmigaOS product package itself (perhaps as part of the registration card) or using the unique serial number of each AmigaOS4.0 instance via a web interface. This would also work with those who have purchased multiple rebate products because they have to have an AmiPASS and so we can apply their multiple rebates against a single purchase. The entire scheme will be published before AmigaOS4.0 is released and we will validate the rebate database by emailing everyone to make sure all the details are correct. I urge anyone who believes they have a rebate to check out their AmiPASS account and ensure the details are correct.
--- End Quote --- |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 155 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 02-Jul-2003 21:55 GMT | In reply to Comment 152 (Samface):
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>The original sCAM coupon was $50 off the purchase of EITHER an AmigaOne OR
>AmigaOS4.
...when *both* were available. The prerelease on the initiative of a third party was not included in this offer, end of story.
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Sorry it doesnt say that anywhere, that Samface-ese possibly through a Fleecy filter. Post a press release, etc where they ever said anything like that or give it up.
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>Oh, and some sCAM members have tried to get their money back from AInc, to
>absolutely no avail. That is also fact.
Which I doubt. But if it's true, you do have a National Board for Consumer Policies, right?
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No, this matter would be handled by the Attorney Generals office of the state in question, ie Washington. They already have a big file on Amiga Inc, they do that when you dont pay your taxes, dont pay judgements, etc. See thats why the AG for Washington has been mentioned thoughout this conversation, because he's relevant, unlike you apologists drivel. BBB also has a nice interesting file on Amiga Inc, not a nice word to say about them at all.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 156 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 154 (Samface):
BTW, this also tells me that Ray A. Akey knows a whole lot more about this $50 rebate issue than some people seem to think. Who do you think will be doing that webinterface Fleecy mentioned? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 157 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 22:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 155 (Tigger):
Well, it didn't say that they would give you a brand new Ferrari either, perhaps we should all sue them for not giving us Ferraris too? Like I said; you will ONLY recieve a rebate for what was stated as a part of the offer. The offer did NOT mention that it would cover any prerelease, period. But don't worry, the "Earlybird" owners WILL get a rebate, they just have to wait for the real official release, that's all.
Perhaps you should try putting your gears in "Forwards", it's easier to make progress that way... |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 158 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 22:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 155 (Tigger):
BTW, I hate people that brings up irrelevant MUD in order to somehow make their point more "valid". |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 159 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 22:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 158 (Samface):
Ooops! That shouldn't have been in upper-case letters... |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 160 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Samface on 02-Jul-2003 22:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 158 (Samface):
Furthermore, the fact that they are still a live and operating business contradicts your conclusion that they would be breaking court decissions and be completely broke. I'm not denying anything or saying that you are lying, I'm just curious how this is possible. Oh well, I should just STFU and believe whatever you say despite beeing denied the ability to verify your claims, right? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 161 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jul-2003 04:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 135 (Tigger):
">>>>
* Nothing stopped you from cancelling the deal if you didnt like it. If you didnt, blame yourself.
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Lots of people have tried to cancel and get there $50 back, not a one has been paid, or course all of those people are behind people like State of Washington, Ingram LLC, Bolten Peck, Matt Fontenot etc in the list of people owed money by Amiga Inc.
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Lots of people? I only know of three, and they hardly tried at all. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 162 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 03-Jul-2003 05:39 GMT | In reply to Comment 160 (Samface):
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Furthermore, the fact that they are still a live and operating business contradicts your conclusion that they would be breaking court decissions and be
completely broke. I'm not denying anything or saying that you are lying, I'm just curious how this is possible. Oh well, I should just STFU and believe
whatever you say despite beeing denied the ability to verify your claims, right?
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First of all I pretty much disagree that are a live and operating business, they have no offices, Ray the unpaid volunteer is keeping their website up, why exactly do you think of them as a live and viable business???
Secondly, the judgements against Amiga Inc are part of the public record. Ray, nor Gary, nor even Fleecy are disputing that they lost the case in December. Bolten is owed over 79K from the suit, 29K from Bill McEwen and the rest from Amiga Inc, in Matt Fontenot's case files there are no less then 3 times (the first in August of 2002) where Bill McEwen writes to say that Amiga Inc and himself are broke. I'm sure at 10 am on the July 25th if he shows up in court like he is required to as part of the ongoing case with Matt Fontenot, he will also be telling the judge he (and Amiga Inc) has no money.
Thirdly and finally, you have not been denied the ability to verify my claims, in fact since I have provided you all the case numbers it would easy for you to verify it all, you wont, because you already know its true, your beastialist friend has told you its ok though, so you'll keep defending him and his company.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 163 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 03-Jul-2003 05:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 161 (DaveP):
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Lots of people? I only know of three, and they hardly tried at all.
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Dave, I bet if you look through the past messages here, more then 3 have posted, so I'm not going to agree with you. But lets ask Ray, Ray how many refunds has Amiga Inc given to those not happy with the way CAM has been run. Shoot lets make it even more interesting. I have about 20 giveway shirts with Amiga themes, some from Amiga Inc, quite a few from Newtek, a couple of my Prowave polos we used to send to customers with large orders, several Toaster/Flyer ones, anyways starting tonight, until I run out of shirts, anyone who gets their $50 back from Amiga Inc, gets a shirt from me. I'm guessing I am going to have these shirts for awhile.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 164 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jul-2003 05:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 163 (Tigger):
@Tigger
There are a lot of people on ANN who claim alsorts of BS about Club ownership, so I think we can safetly disregard ANN as a good place for a statistical survey.
I base this on the class action lawsuit, of which only 3 people expressed an interest. I think that is a slightly more realistic poll.
Not being a Club member ( although a PartyPack owner - which was to get some fixes - bah! ) I have no feelings either way about this.
Regards
Dave. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 165 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jul-2003 06:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 152 (Samface):
">The original sCAM coupon was $50 off the purchase of EITHER an AmigaOne OR
>AmigaOS4.
...when *both* were available. The prerelease on the initiative of a third party was not included in this offer, end of story.
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Wrong, Spamface. That condition was NEVER attached to the sCAM coupon scheme.
It is just an excuse that you have come up with to try to cover over the fact that your liyng lawbreaking heros are refusing to fulfil their part of the contract. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 166 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jul-2003 06:01 GMT | In reply to Comment 163 (Tigger):
PS:
"But lets ask Ray, Ray how many refunds has Amiga Inc given to those not happy with the way CAM has been run."
This is far from relevant, although it would be an interesting secondary statistic. The interesting statistic ( and what we are discussing ) is how many GENUINE Club AMIGA memers have requested a refund.
"Shoot lets make it even more interesting. I have about 20 giveway shirts with Amiga themes, some from Amiga Inc, quite a few from Newtek, a couple of my Prowave polos we used to send to customers with large orders, several Toaster/Flyer ones, anyways starting tonight, until I run out of shirts, anyone who gets their $50 back from Amiga Inc, gets a shirt from me. I'm guessing I am going to have these shirts for awhile."
Again, spurious unless you have accurate stats on those who are genuine members who actually want to get their money back and try. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 167 of 213 | ANN.lu |
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Abuse |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 168 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DaveP on 03-Jul-2003 08:44 GMT | In reply to Comment 167 (Paul Daniels):
Countdown to being marked as Abuse 3....2....1.... |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 169 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 09:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 167 (Paul Daniels):
Who is defending anyone? You know, there is a difference between claiming someone's innocence and concluding that you are not in a position to be the judge of anything. But then, that would require a little more than the IQ for opening a swinging door in order to be comprehendable... |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 170 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 09:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 165 (Anonymous):
See comment #157. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 171 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jul-2003 10:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 170 (samface):
No relevance to the fact that AInc is refusing to homour their legal obligations re the sCAM - the AmigaOne is on sale (fact) and AInc refuse to honour it (fact).
Your talk of Ferraris is irrelevant - fact is that the AmigaOne is on sale, which means the coupon should be honoured and AInc are refusing to do so. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 172 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by dammy on 03-Jul-2003 12:39 GMT | In reply to Comment 158 (Samface):
> BTW, I hate people that brings up irrelevant MUD in order to somehow make their > point more "valid".
Let me ask you a simple question, have any (or all) the AmigaOnes delivered were properly badged as AmigaOnes?
Dammy |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 173 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by dammy on 03-Jul-2003 12:44 GMT | In reply to Comment 172 (dammy):
> Your talk of Ferraris is irrelevant - fact is that the AmigaOne is on sale,
> which means the coupon should be honoured and AInc are refusing to do so.
I'm coming to the conclusion that attempting to use logic with Samface is impossible. I guess I'll just have to see if he answers my question in the above post. But I'm not taking any bets on it. :\
Dammy |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 174 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 12:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 171 (Anonymous):
>the AmigaOne is on sale (fact)
Beeep! Wrong. The only thing available now is an incomplete prerelease called "Earlybird" from a third party. If what you say would be true, it would have to be bundled with AmigaOS4.
>and AInc refuse to honour it (fact).
Beeep! Wrong. How could they possibly refuse to honour something that hasn't been officially released in it's final version yet? Or, are you suggesting that the AmigaOS4 beta testers should sue Amiga Inc. for not having their AmigaOS4 rebates as well?
>Your talk of Ferraris is irrelevant - fact is that the AmigaOne is on sale,
>which means the coupon should be honoured and AInc are refusing to do so.
My talk of Ferraris was because someone used the argument that the offer did not specificly say that it wouldn't cover these "Earlybirds", that makes it highly relevant because by this reasoning we should claim rebates on Ferraris as well. Furthermore, you are making inaccurate conclusions based on inaccurate facts. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 175 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jul-2003 13:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 129 (Anonymous):
Wake up, !fleecy is not the only one, there's !tarbos and others, even !amigr (me). |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 176 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by o1i on 03-Jul-2003 13:18 GMT | In reply to Comment 64 (Ray A. Akey):
> If you don't want to join the club and read Club Amiga Magazine, then don't
> join. It IS really that simple and completely your choice.
Is it really? At www.amiga.com there is no link any more to join the club !?
Not that I wanted, but ... ;) |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 177 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jul-2003 13:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 169 (samface):
Ehm, should I paste what you said in the past that I'm the one that spits out
attacks? :-) |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 178 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 03-Jul-2003 14:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 166 (DaveP):
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"But lets ask Ray, Ray how many refunds has Amiga Inc given to those not happy with the way CAM has been run."
This is far from relevant, although it would be an interesting secondary statistic. The interesting statistic ( and what we are discussing ) is how many GENUINE Club AMIGA memers have requested a refund.
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Since I believe even you will agree that the Number who have requested the refund is GREATER then the number who have gotten the refund, I think its an issue. Ray can come here and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he will.
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"Shoot lets make it even more interesting. I have about 20 giveway shirts with Amiga themes, some from Amiga Inc, quite a few from Newtek, a couple of my Prowave polos we used to send to customers with large orders, several Toaster/Flyer ones, anyways starting tonight, until I run out of shirts, anyone who gets their $50 back from Amiga Inc, gets a shirt from me. I'm guessing I am going to have these shirts for awhile."
Again, spurious unless you have accurate stats on those who are genuine members who actually want to get their money back and try.
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Why do I need stats Dave?? First 20 people who get a refund, get a T-Shirt from me, what do you think I cant verify, people who were members?? Or people who get a $50 refund??? I dont really need to do the first, presumably even Amiga Inc won't send $50 refunds to people that aren't members. Verify people who got refunds?? Thats pretty easy, scan the $50 check from Amiga Inc before you cash it and send me the scan, then you get a T-Shirt. The problem is getting a $50 check from Amiga Inc, not me getting those people that actually get them T-Shirts.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 179 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by LinusG on 03-Jul-2003 15:00 GMT | | You guys do know that this is about a computer, dont you? Why don´t you just let everybody buy what they want and leave them with their decision? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 180 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by LinusG on 03-Jul-2003 15:03 GMT | In reply to Comment 172 (dammy):
Your talk about morallly bancrupt companies is quite silly. 90% of all companies doesn´t even know what moral is. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 181 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jul-2003 15:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 174 (samface):
">the AmigaOne is on sale (fact)
Beeep! Wrong. The only thing available now is an incomplete prerelease called "Earlybird" from a third party"
Nice to see you referring to Eyetech as merely a "3rd party" now, Spamface.
Sadly for you, the AmigaOne they sell is not called "Earlybird", it is called "AmigaOne" (rather "they" are called "AmigaOne" as there is more than 1 model on sale).
It is an AmigaOne.
Fact.
Sorry you find facts to be unpaletable, Spamface, but that doesn't stop them from being facts.
(I wonder what hoops you would jump through to defend the non-shipment of sCAM t-shirts? But let's not go there, you'll probably explode).
AInc are refusing to honour the sCAM coupon. Fact.
But then again, AInc are refusing to comply with court orders, so their shafting a few people dumb enough to give them $50 for a promise is not unexpected. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 182 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jul-2003 16:23 GMT | In reply to Comment 180 (LinusG):
At last someone who speaks sence |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 183 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ian Shurmer on 03-Jul-2003 18:23 GMT | In reply to Comment 175 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Erm that's great Alkis. Tremendous.
Now, do you ever read what people say or just go off on some sort of self-propelling, abusive tangent?
Ian |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 184 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Tigger on 03-Jul-2003 18:53 GMT | In reply to Comment 164 (DaveP):
>>>>
Not being a Club member ( although a PartyPack owner - which was to get some fixes - bah! ) I have no feelings either way about this.
>>>>
They owe us fixes PLUS $100 off AOS 4.0, or have you forgotten that?? Really think you are going to AOS 4.0 for free, because you got a PartyPack, I dont but hey they could surprise the 700+ of us who bought the PartyPack.
-Tig |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 185 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 20:38 GMT | In reply to Comment 181 (Anonymous):
You obviously have a problem with seperating the hardware from the term for the offer from the dealer. Yes, Eyetech are selling the AmigaOne hardware, but the offer is refered to as an "Earlybird" with different conditions than the original AmigaOne product. You see, the "Earlybird" is different from the real official AmigaOne release in many ways; such as not prebundled with AmigaOS4, distribution and marketing made solely by Eyetech, and completely excluded from any special offers from any third party. It is because of these different conditions that it is refered to as "Earlybirds" and the customer accepts these different conditions when deciding to buy it rather than waiting for the release of AmigaOS4 and the $50/$100 vouchers.
Eyetech is not refusing to honour the AmigaOS4 bundling issue because of this prerelease of the hardware and neither is Amiga Inc. refusing to honour the rebate offer because Eyetech have released these "Earlybirds". The "Earlybird" systems are a seperate offer in itself and is not affected by other offers, period.
Now, STFU and stop trying to speak for my rights as a Club Amiga member. I'm happy with this deal and I really don't see why you, as a non Club Amiga member, should be meddling in our business. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 186 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 20:59 GMT | In reply to Comment 177 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Insulting mr Anonymous isn't rather personal, now is it? I'm polite towards people, the opinion from an anonymus signature is not even a person in my eyes. It could just as well be a spam bot as far as I'm concerned. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 187 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 21:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 178 (Tigger):
You need stats because YOU are the one constantly refering to all those who have supposedly been rejected a refund.
Let me offer you a deal; give me the AmiPASS for anyone one of those who wants a refund and I will try contacting Amiga Inc. myself. If I would fail in this mission of getting a refund for that Club Amiga member/PartyPack owner, I will stand corrected and never argue with you about this again. But if I succeed, this would of course apply for you instead. Deal? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 188 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 21:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 172 (dammy):
See comment #185. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 189 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jul-2003 21:34 GMT | In reply to Comment 188 (samface):
I.e. "Yes, they are ALL badged AmigaOne". |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 190 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 21:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 189 (Anonymous):
You don't WANT to listen to reason, now do you? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 191 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jul-2003 22:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 183 (Ian Shurmer):
I've read it all, thank you very much.
Now continue living your life, as I do :-) |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 192 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jul-2003 22:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 190 (samface):
Let's place a bet. If Amiga Inc. honours those 50$ coupons when OS4 is out, I'll
use a Bill McEwen avatar on amiga.org. If they don't, you'll use Bill Buck.
Accepted or not?
Redrumloa already lost such a bet and had to use Bill Clinton. |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 193 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 03-Jul-2003 23:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 192 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I prefer the deal I proposed. Is there any reason for why you are reluctant my idea? |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 194 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by samface on 04-Jul-2003 00:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 193 (samface):
Please insert "towards" between "reluctant" and "my idea". :-P |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 195 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by dammy on 04-Jul-2003 02:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 190 (samface):
> You don't WANT to listen to reason, now do you?
It seems you want to reason away the cold hard facts that AmigaOnes are now for sale. Early Bird Special is a name of a marketing promotion, not a product. Let's say I have a load of A500s in a wharehouse that I need to sell. It's Christmas time and I will sell this dino's for $5 and I call it a Christmas Special. Are they Christmas Special computers or are they A500s being sold under the marketing promotion, "Christmas Special"?
Dammy |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 196 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Wayne Hunt on 04-Jul-2003 10:38 GMT | In reply to Comment 191 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
@alkis
"Now continue living your life, as I do :-)"
You live Ian Shurmer's life?
Wayne |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 197 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Jul-2003 11:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 193 (samface):
I wouldn't like to be involved in the issue in that depth, as you can see I'm
merely a watcher, as I sold my party pack. I do not comment that much on that
issue, but I would like something like that pretty innocent bet:-). |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 198 of 213 | ANN.lu |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 199 of 213 | ANN.lu |
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| July Edition of Club Amiga Monthly released : Comment 200 of 213 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 05-Jul-2003 05:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 199 (Ray A. Akey):
Ummm, yeah... a broken link |
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