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Posted on 11-Jan-2004 14:28 GMT by Lukas Stehlik356 comments
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The best Amiga ever - Pegasos II G4 1GHz!
See the benchmark results on AmiGOD2 benchmark page.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 101 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 12-Jan-2004 13:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (BrianK):
Actually, MorphOS API contains much more than AmigaOS 3 API. There is no way Amithlon users could update and develop AmigaOS3 kernel any further but MorphOS is advancing.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 102 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 12-Jan-2004 13:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (brotheris):
So your comment 'future is in the hands of new operating system,' -- should simply be read as MorphOS is the future because it's bugfixed?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 103 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>These are ALL trademarks and are ALL being constantly used in the same context
>Amiga is used right here...

Again, two wrongs doesn't make one right. Furthermore, we're far from talking about something as insignificant as glass polishing here. This is the Amiga community for Amiga hobbyists with people that has spent many years and thousands of dollars on this specific interest. Please don't belittle this issue like we would be talking about glass polishing.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 104 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Jan-2004 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 103 (samface):
Well, most people that bought a Pegasos, feel that they just added 500$ (or 300$) to the Amiga bill. Sam, there's something called freedom of speech, I can call it whatever I want without anyone complaining, as long as I don't do it
for commercial reasons... I'm not employeed by Genesi, nor did I call it Amiga
in a site that promotes the Pegasos.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 105 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 99 (itix):
>In this contest "the fastest Amiga" means the fastest platform to run Amiga
>software.

That's like saying that a plane is the fastest car ever because it get's you from point A to point B like a car but alot faster.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 106 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Gadd on 12-Jan-2004 13:42 GMT
So your saying that having opinions on products these days violates copyrights and trademarks? never heard anything so stupid (but very funny tho).

Keep up the good work and let the violations continue.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 107 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Jan-2004 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (samface):
>> Amiga *brand* is worthless/useless/unimportant

> The value of a brand depends on the value and the meaning of the word, which
> you surprisingly enough seem to be very fond of using for your Pegasos. The
> fact that you are using the word "Amiga" to describe a certain feeling and
> user experience tells me that the Amiga brand is far from
> worthless/useless/unimportant.

You are not reading me correctly, I said that (to me) the *brand* is unimportant and useless, hence it means *nothing* to me that the Pegasos hasn't got an Amiga Inc sticker. Actually, I don't want it to be branded as Amiga today, I don't want it to be associated with Amiga Inc or the lunatic part of the community (the religious name followers, the loonies that kneels and pray in front of a corporate logo). I don't want it to be associated with scams, broken promises, and the wild west dot com failures of the current flag holder (which has been in coma for the last year or so), or the bankruptcies and failures of the previous. Too much failures and negativity connected to the "Amiga" brand of today.

But the *term* Amiga is very usable in everyday speak when talking about the "Amiga Phenomenom" caused by the *real* Amigas of the 80's and 90's. This is from another conversation (with Amon_Re):


> rather then having this stupid discussion about wether or not you
> are an amigan, what do you consider to be an amiga experiance?

Excellent! :-)

> For me, it's always been the OS & the community (although the latter is
> falling apart at the seams), i don't think there's a thing called "amiga
> experiance", just the ease of use & maintenance of AOS, its simple, logical,
> well structured & well documented.

> But there's also the "feel" of the OS, the way the menu works, the menu
> itself, the little convieniant things like ram: and assigns... AOS is a
> dream to use, albeit abit unstable due to no memory protection.

The "Amiga Experience"? Well everything you mentioned above fits in, it's the way the OS works (with menus, ram:, assign:, etc), the "dream to use", its simplicity, it's logic, it's structure and documentation, the "feeling", etc, it's all part of what I call the "Amiga Experience". Also the Amiga programs, definitely the programs! You mentioned the community, well ... perhaps, and perhaps even the community websites are part of the experience (but then we are getting a bit off track IMO).

> MOS is (i assume) very simular in this regard, and i welcome that,

Oh, it's **VERY** similar, it's identical! That's what I am saying! Sure, Ambient in its current state *still* leaves things to wish for, but you can use (for instance) Dopus anyway (like many people do on classic Amigas too, you know). MorphOS still miss other things as well, like TCP/IP, but Miami (and many other applications) works *the same way* as it did on classic Amigas. Heck, MorphOS is so similar to AmigaOS 3.x that you could even replace Ambient with Workbench (like Elena did (right?)).

> but the feel to me is different,

To me, the feeling is *exactly* the same! I felt right at home from the very start! But the Pegasos hardware makes it all so much more fun!

Hence I am using my Pegasos/MorphOS *as* an Amiga, I am not claming it's *branded* Amiga, and as I said, I don't want it to be. My real Amiga is in the closet now. I use my Pegasos/MorphOS in its place, branded or not.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 108 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Zylesea on 12-Jan-2004 14:00 GMT
"If noone cared, noone would reply, much less get so upset. This is obviously still a very topical issue just like there are few individuals in here that could honestly say that the word "Amiga" means nothing to them. It's of course entirely up to you wether you want to participate in this discussion or not, I'm quite sure there are other things on the internet you could read about."

Well, I wasn´t upset. I just think we had our discussion, we made clear our pov and everyone knows that. But you keep on repeating the phrases again and again. First we might have found this entertaining but now it´s just boring. Move on. Do something. You can´t be that stupid that you don´t understand what we all mean when calling the Pegasos an Amiga. Do a little look into the real world. It´s not about trademarks, the world is sustantial. If tm´s are so i mportant to you I really feel sorry for you and regard you to do something better to come over it. Meet some nice people, have a beer, do some sports and just enjoy life!
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 109 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-Jan-2004 14:01 GMT
1.Load
2.Aim at head
3.Fire

:/
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 110 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 14:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 104 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>I'm not employeed by Genesi, nor did I call it Amiga
>in a site that promotes the Pegasos.

AFAIK, ANN.lu does indeed promote the Pegasos from time to time. It is also a fact that Christian Kemp, the owner of ANN.lu, is a Genesi associate. Do a "whois" on ANN.lu if you don't believe me.

Now, wether you are employed by Genesi or if this statement was an official statement or not is irrelevant, there is still no reason for why you should associate the Pegasos with the Amiga brand. You know very well that these are competing products, please stop beeing so arrogant.

Furthermore, shouldn't you atleast give the Pegasos brand the credit of beeing able to stand on it's own rather than constantly beeing associated with the competitor's brand?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 111 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by pug on 12-Jan-2004 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (takemehomegrandma):
I don't want it to be branded as Amiga today, I don't want it to be associated with Amiga Inc or the lunatic part of the community (the religious name followers, the loonies that kneels and pray in front of a corporate logo). I don't want it to be associated with scams, broken promises, and the wild west dot com failures of the current flag holder (which has been in coma for the last year or so), or the bankruptcies and failures of the previous. Too much failures and negativity connected to the "Amiga" brand of today.

LOL What a crock.

Try a explaining to someone, the features of Morphos Or Pegasos without using the word Amiga.

You make me laugh. Slag Amiga off at every opportunity but still continue to run Amiga Apps on that pirate OS of yours.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 112 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 12-Jan-2004 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (samface):
That's like saying that a plane is the fastest car ever because it get's you from point A to point B like a car but alot faster. Almost correct! If you are evaluating the fastest possible way to get from point A to point B why not consider using a plane? It is not a car but can replace car very well in many occasions. In long run flying can be easier, faster and maybe even cheaper. I bet you would still use a car because it is the "car".
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 113 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Jan-2004 14:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 110 (samface):
Because I've been using Amigas for all my life and consider the Pegasos a step
in the direction I always were. It's as simple as that. I just use the Pegasos
as an Amiga. It's not one, it's being USED as one...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 114 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jan-2004 14:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>BTW, some companies are even flattered by that use of their trademarks

This is actually the reason why most people DONT like people to use their trademark for everything else but the real thing. Due to modern trademark laws, you will actually loose your trademark if the term becomes so widely accepted that it can be used for anything.
(Hint: Try order a Coke at Taco Bell in the US and they will ask you 'Is Pepsi ok?' since it is not legal for them to serve you a Pepsi when you ordered a Coke)
In the long run, if companies didn't defend their trademarks, they would actually have to change their own brand name since their trademark is not valid any longer.

Not that this has anything with this silly discussion, but I just thought you wanted to learn a few things about trademarks...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 115 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (Anonymous):
I was going to write much the same thing, only referencing Qtips and Jello.

However, Coke failed to protect their Cola trademark. (Cola was originally its own trademark, as what we call a "cola" today was originally spelled Kolla)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 116 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by a white man on 12-Jan-2004 14:30 GMT
@Samface

Your obsession with trademarks is very unhealthy, i suggest you stop whacking off and move on with your life.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 117 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 12-Jan-2004 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (BrianK):
should simply be read as MorphOS is the future because it's bugfixed?

Not only that, but it is developed further and gets new features by every major release.
Amithlon is dead (ofcourse if it suits your needs, your machine will not stop working).
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 118 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 12-Jan-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (Anonymous):
And when you ask for Aspirin you may get some other but similar non-branded product made in Poland.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 119 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Jan-2004 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 111 (pug):
> Try a explaining to someone, the features of Morphos Or Pegasos without
> using the word Amiga.

That's what I'm saying:

"But the *term* Amiga is very usable in everyday speak when talking about the "Amiga Phenomenom" caused by the *real* Amigas of the 80's and 90's."

It's very easy to just say "It's like Amiga, but it's bigger, better, faster and more beautiful"!

:-P
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 120 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (itix):
Or running off a Xerox. (thanks for the suggestion, you know who you are.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 121 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 14:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (itix):
Now that was the most weird way of explaining why it would be logical to refer to a plan as a car that I've ever heard. Please, if you're talking other ways of traveling from point A to point B than using a car, then don't refer to it as traveling by car. It's as easy as that, really.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 122 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 14:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 116 (a white man):
I'm not the one talking about the word Amiga as anything else than just a trademark, it's these munks in the curch of Amiga that gets upset when I do. Refering to the word "Amiga" as a trademark is not blasphemy, it's a fact.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 123 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 15:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 (samface):
A trademark which applies to a product, the product having led to other, similar products and as noone has ever classified the Amiga as anything other than as just Amiga, there is no other term for end-users to use for the similar products, hence they get labelled by end-users *as* an Amiga. Weither it is factual or not, it is the market reality.

Does Genesi call the Pegasos or MorphOS an Amiga? Of course not. They're a Pegasos and MorphOS respectively.

You're blaming Genesi for the fact that end-users call their machines whatever the hell they want. I happen to call my machine here Qtip. Do you think Johnson and Johnson would flip out over that? No. Would they have a legal leg to stand on if they did, no. It's an end-user situation, no company controls the situation at that point.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 124 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 15:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 123 (Nate Downes):
>You're blaming Genesi for the fact that end-users call their machines whatever
>the hell they want.

I have not accused Genesi of anything in this specific thread, period. You see, I've done nothing but pointing out the error in refering to the Pegasos as an Amiga product, please do not jump into any conclusions beyond that.

Furthermore, I really don't see how people's ignorance could possibly work as a argument for why people should not be enlightened. Fact is that while it might seem like an Amiga alike product, it is not compatible with current nor future Amiga products. AmigaOS4 will not run on the Pegasos I/II nor will MorphOS run on the AmigaOne. The ONLY thing they have in common is the ability to run AmigaOS3.x applications, any future advancements of these products are most likely to be as compatible as PowerUP and WarpUP applications used to be. Sure, some things could be emulated, but the more hardware optimized software, the less compatible. Please stop trying to avoid reality, I'm talking out of experience when I say that this is NOT something to belittle.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 125 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (samface):
You are attempting to beat back the tide with a sword there sam.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 126 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Steve on 12-Jan-2004 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (samface):
@Samface
Maybe this will be hard to understand for your idiot brain, but an Amiga is not just an Amiga branded product or a product made by Amiga Inc.

Real Amiga fans know that Amiga is BEFORE EVERYTHING a philosophy. So for real Amiga fans, an Amiga is a computer/OS sharing a certain philosophy. The Pegasos/MorphOS, first because it's made by Amiga fans, second because it shares some ideas/concept with what was the Amiga/AmigaOS, IS an Amiga as a real Amiga fans view it.

If you don't agree with that, then you are just an idiotic Amiga users, but not a real Amiga fan as you clearly didn't understand everything of the Amiga. You clearly didn't understand that an Amiga is BEFORE EVERYTHING a philosophy of viewing/doing things and not only a brand on a product. If you didn't understand that, then you don't deserve to be part of the real Amiga fans community and you are one of the idiots who are poluting forums all the day with stupid arguments that worth nothing and are idiotic for any REAL Amiga fan.

So either understand what an Amiga really is, or leave us alone. By your stupid propaganda you are helping to destroy the REAL Amiga, the only one that deserve to exist. And you are reducing it to a simple brand, which is stupid for someone who know what the Amiga really is.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 127 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 12-Jan-2004 15:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 110 (samface):
The Problem is that for the Last 10 years th eword Amiga has become more and more Generic... describing system from the humble A1k... right up to the frankenputers that didn't even have any actual amiga hardware left (Ie Amithlon), and even if they did is was used for little more than as a place to plug the mouse and keyboard (PCI busboards; CPU cards, PCI GFX cards, PCI sound cards etc)...

We have come to use the term Amiga to describe any machine derived from the Commodore Amiga... And even more so now that the Hardware is no longer relavent, the Peg1 and A1 WERE IDENTICAL from a hadware stand point!
Since AOS4, MOS and AROS all use an OS design based on The Commodore Amiga Operating System... I see no problem with calling any of them Amiga (not "The Amiga" (tm) ), for I have become used to this, and will contiunue to do so.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 128 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 12-Jan-2004 15:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 117 (brotheris):
Brotheis,

So Amiga Forever using UAE gets new releases and bug fixes. One just came out within the last month.

So that too is being developed further and gets new features by every major release. Should, also, be seen as the Amiga and is faster then the MorphOS solution.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 129 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 12-Jan-2004 15:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (BrianK):
So Amiga Forever using UAE gets new releases and bug fixes

You don't get it, do you? Does your AmigaOS instalation gets fixes and updates together with winuae ?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 130 of 356ANN.lu
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Insult
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 131 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Donald Fisher on 12-Jan-2004 16:16 GMT
Amithlon and Amiga forever are official Amiga products and clearly can be called "Amiga", Morphos is not an "Amiga" but is "very Amiga like".

As for Samface trying to make out people what call their Pegasos/morphOS an "Amiga" are breaking trademarks, that is the biggist load of bullshit that guy has ever come out with.

People can call their machines what the hell they like and should not have to put up with the clown attacking them.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 132 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 12-Jan-2004 16:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (BrianK):
You don't get it.
With MorphOS the AmigaOS 3.1 API gets bug fixed, extended, new features.
A new version of an emulator will run the same 68k AmigaOS forever.

As for speed the Pegasos G4 1 Ghz IS for now the fastest in most of the cases.
The Amigod numbers on this page are the speed of 68k emulated programs.
Also it was explained that Amigod, written in powerD language generates a lot of memory hits in MorphOS slowing down dramatically the performance.
MorphOS gets more and more native programs, these native programs run in average 6 times faster than the 68k programs in the JIT.
So when you think for example that you are twice as fast as a Pegasos for running 68k programs, the Pegasos run the native equivalent 3 times faster your PC.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 133 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 12-Jan-2004 16:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (itix):
>And when you ask for Aspirin you may get some other but similar non-branded product made in Poland.

...And that similar non-branded product may work exactly the same way, but cost much less.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 134 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 12-Jan-2004 16:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 121 (samface):
>Please, if you're talking other ways of traveling from point A to point B than using a car, then don't refer to it as traveling by car. It's as easy as that, really.

You can drive your car into train or boat, that goes to point B, does that count? :-)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 135 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Zylesea on 12-Jan-2004 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 (samface):
Right, we have noticed it´s a trademark. But we still keep on useing the term Amiga just as before. You can repeat it a thousand times, but the more you do the more it makes you look like a fool.
First it has been boring, now it becomes ridiculous. Go on Samface make yourself a fool or just stop it and chose not beeing some kind of fool loughed at.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 136 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 12-Jan-2004 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (samface):
>AmigaOS4 will not run on the Pegasos I/II

afaik, Hyperion has NOT announced, that AOS4 would not be made for Pegasos 2. iirc, Ben Hermans made statement, that was clearly neither "yes" or "no".

(That's as I recall it, prove me wrong, if I am)

>nor will MorphOS run on the AmigaOne.

I haven't seen any statement about that either. _but_ it's been stated, that if MOS for Teron will be released, it will likely require open firmware.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 137 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 16:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 126 (Steve):
>Real Amiga fans know that Amiga is BEFORE EVERYTHING a philosophy.

Then those so-called "real" Amiga fans is fundamental fanatics rather than just fans, which is exactly the point I'm trying to get across here. Having a trademark for a commercial product as your philosophy of life is not very healthy, IMO.

The Amiga community evolved around certain commercial products with a specific trademark, not the other way around. Before the trademark, there was no such thing as "the Amiga spirit", "the Amiga user experience" nor the Amiga community. The trademark is the source to everything we know about the word "Amiga" in relevance to computers, period.

This is not the words of the devil himself, this is mr. reality banging on your door. Are you going to answer the door or hide under your blanket in hopes that he may go away?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 138 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (TRAPOSOFT):
Hi TRAPOSOFT! Do we know each other?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 139 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (samface):
You seem to be the fanatic here.

It's like you're standing in a grocery store and hear someone say "hey hon, I forgot the Jello. Grab some for me." and the husband returns with generic brand Gellatin. Do you then freak out throwing the Gelatin on the floor proclaiming that Jello is a brand name and you should never EVER call something other than that brand name Jello?

That is exactly what you are doing here.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 140 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 17:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 139 (Nate Downes):
A better metaphor would be a car salesman claiming that his tuned up Volvo is the best Mercedes ever. I'm far from a fanatic because I merely correct such erranous statement, now am I? I'm sorry but there is no sane reasoning in this world that could possibly make me a fanatic for the sole reason of pointing out that the word Amiga is a trademark.

Fanatics are people believing that there are more to the word Amiga (in relevance to computers) than the fact that it is a trademark, such as a philosophy of life or something similar.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 141 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (samface):
Dream world sam, dream world.

Noone is trying to sell anything as an Amiga here. You jumped because someone DARED to refer to their Pegasos as an Amiga. Their own, personal, machine.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 142 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 17:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (Nate Downes):
I don't "jump" at someone merely stating such thing as his personal opinion in a comment of a forum or something similar. However, if someone states it as a matter of *fact* in a news article on ANN.lu, why should noone be entitled to even pointing out the error in such statement? Or does this freedom of writing/speech only cover people that does not recognize the word "Amiga" as a trademark owned by Amiga Inc.?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 143 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 12-Jan-2004 17:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 139 (Nate Downes):
How dare you call it Jello!! :-x

It's called Jelly, damnit! :-P
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 144 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 18:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (samface):
If someone had made it fact in a news article, that would be one thing.

But noone had, it was their opinion in a forum post.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 145 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 18:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (samface):
Furthermore, even if we would be talking about someone anonymous claiming that a tuned up volvo would be the best mercedes ever, I would still correct the error in such statement. Not because I'm a mercedes fan, but because the statement is erraneous.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 146 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 18:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 144 (Nate Downes):
>But noone had, it was their opinion in a forum post.

The article is not a forum post, it's a news article placed in the "web" category.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 147 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 12-Jan-2004 18:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 146 (samface):
But you never attacked the news article itself, your first responce was to a forum responding *to* that article.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 148 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 12-Jan-2004 18:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (brotheris):
'You don't get it, do you? Does your AmigaOS instalation gets fixes and updates together with winuae ?
'
-- Guess not that's why I'm trying to figure out your definitions. WinUAE gets updates AmigaOS3.9 has gotten updates. So while not 'together' in a bundle both have been updated and patched.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 149 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 12-Jan-2004 18:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (Nate Downes):
Read comment #43. Get your facts straight.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 150 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 12-Jan-2004 18:30 GMT
For God's sake why does anyone bother talking to samface or even reading his posts?! You know before you even put finger to keyboard what the outcome will be. Just let the kid live in his fantasy world and move on...
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