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[News] IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developmentsANN.lu
Posted on 08-Mar-2004 11:53 GMT by Felix Schwarz69 comments
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Felix Schwarz, with immediate effect, freezes the development of fxPAINT, fxSCAN, VHI Studio and the IOUSB- and VHI-drivers. Medusa and IBrowse are external developments and thus are not affected.

All products will stay in distribution. Whether the development will be reactivated at a later point in time mainly depends on the further economical and social development of the market and the profits made with it. The AMIGA-pages can be found at http://amiga.iospirit.de/ in the future. Although www.iospirit.de currently still redirects to this page, we nonetheless would be glad if existing hyperlinks in AMIGA-context would be adapted accordingly.

Subsequently, you'll find an open letter from Felix Schwarz to the AMIGA-community in all its occurences.

IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 51 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Roj):
"Multiple times I have brought especially great trust towards other participants in the market and always have I had to - directly or indirectly - pay with my money for it (and four or five digit amounts were not uncommon). I especially want to send a warm "thank you" to all those companies and individuals that have been responsible for this for the biggest disappointments in business, moral and humanity in my life - I will not name names here."

Since FXpaint lite is part of the MorphOS "SuperBundle", it seems to me that he's referring to the GEnesi here, and that he's just another person who got screwed by Billy boy Bucket....

So I don't really see how you draw that conclusion that he's not happy with the red side....
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 52 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 09-Mar-2004 15:49 GMT
Random thoughts

Some people can go on for years just using cover disk versions.

People buy software in a small market to support developers. The imagefx cover disk cut pasted and resized just fine.

The new amigas will be aged hardware even when new.

64 bit computing is nearly here.

It`s like getting a new 8 bit spectrum or c64 instead of a 16 bit amiga.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 53 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Mar-2004 16:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (John Block):
The Amiga was never really a 16bit machine...
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 54 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 09-Mar-2004 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Anonymous):
"The pure fanatism - with all its consequences - including, but not limited to, blind following, closed eyes towards realities, hostility and intolerance towards people thinking different and minorities are sadly widespread and makes every activity a walk over a minefield."
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 55 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 18:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (itix):
applies to either camp.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 56 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 19:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Anonymous):
.. applies to everybody that thinks in "camps" ..
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 57 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 19:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Don Cox):
It must be customers like you that make it fun to write software and sell it for cheap-ass prices. Please, get a life.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 58 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 09-Mar-2004 19:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Anonymous):
"It must be customers like you that make it fun to write software and sell it for cheap-ass prices."

I'm not asking for low prices. I've spent thousands of pounds on Amiga software.

All I am saying is that a program is not a simple, packaged take-it-or-leave-it product - actually very few products are. It is a stage in a continuing relationship between the programmer and his customers. IMO it is more rewarding for the programmer to know his customers and respond to their requests and suggestions than to work in isolation.

Have you read John Walker's "autofile"? This describes the growth of Autodesk and AutoCAD. Features were added almost entirely because of customer requests.

Lightwave is another program which has grown by responding to the needs of customers.

In Felix' case, his sales were probably so low that it was impossible to keep going, and I'm sure he regrets that. I am more responding to the anonymous person whose attitude is to throw a program at the customer, grab the cash, and run. That is a stupid way to do business.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 59 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 19:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Don Cox):
The development of Ultraconv - as I recall it - was stopped because it was written in Blitzbasic and it was impossible to expand the source further or do a PowerPC-portation due to the language's limitation. But sure, keep dream... erm .. asking!! The world is evil and - especially as custoemr - everybody takes your cash and runs! Yeah, right. Oh, and I forgot .. developers are the personal property of their customers. There certainly is some federal law on that. They shall not do anything else than what their customers demand - for them are their masters! In fact, they should ask their customers before they even start learning to develop! For permission! Rotfl!

Ann.lu comments really have become a premier source of quality comedy and satire. Keep the good work up! I know you can beat any comedy site!
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 60 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 09-Mar-2004 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Anonymous):
"The development of Ultraconv - as I recall it - was stopped because it was written in Blitzbasic and it was impossible to expand the source further or do a PowerPC-portation due to the language's limitation."

That may be true. If Felix had explained that to me instead of selling me the program and shortly after flatly refusing any support, I would have been less annoyed.

Rather against my better judgement, I bought FXscan from him a couple of years later, and found it very disappointing. I felt I had wasted my money. In particular, the OCR (ported from Linux) was greatly inferior to Migraph OCR, which in turn is not in the same league as the Windows/Mac OCR programs.

Others may have found FXscan more useful than I did.

I looked at the demo of FXpaint and decided it did not offer anything not in programs I already own.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 61 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 21:21 GMT
> applies to either camp.

Could ann's code be adjusted to filter out the words red, blue, camp, side? Or, alternatively, randomly swap these magic words?
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 62 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 21:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Don Cox):
> I am more responding to the anonymous person whose attitude is to throw a program at the customer, grab the cash, and run

Please turn on the logic unit in your brain, Don. Programmers who want to make money don't throw a program at the customer and run. That's the way to make no money, and people who write software understand that perfectly well. Updates appear to be designed for customer happyness but in reality, they were invented by programmers as the ultimate selling tool: updates are the the dominating source of income for us. One initial sale, many updates. And frequent updates attract undecided users, which is another benefit. But this has absolutely nothing to do with the point that you tried to defend: that you have the right to go to a forum and declare a program worthless and moan the "loss" of your money (and recommend immediate upload to aminet) if an author chooses to end the development. You purchased a product because it was good, you received it and you used it and with that use, the money was used up. There is no credit left that would give you the right to feel "cheated": You just don't have an inherent built-in right to anything beyond the software, which was delivered. A developer is stupid if he doesn't sell what could be sold, updates that is, but my guess is that that specific software was tereminated because it generated no profit.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 63 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 10-Mar-2004 07:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
"Please turn on the logic unit in your brain, Don. Programmers who want to make money don't throw a program at the customer and run."

See comment 8.


"That's the way to make no money, and people who write software understand that perfectly well. Updates appear to be designed for customer happiness but in reality, they were invented by programmers as the ultimate selling tool: updates are the the dominating source of income for us. One initial sale, many updates. And frequent updates attract undecided users, which is another benefit."

That is exactly what I am saying.


" But this has absolutely nothing to do with the point that you tried to defend: that you have the right to go to a forum and declare a program worthless and moan the "loss" of your money (and recommend immediate upload to aminet) if an author chooses to end the development. You purchased a product because it was good, you received it and you used it and with that use, the money was used up."

The support is an essential part of the product.

If you buy a program, you expect to not just use it once, but to go on using it. The program becomes part of your workshop equipment. It is like buying a milling machine: if you thought spare parts, service, and replacement cutters would not be available next year, you would not buy it.

" There is no credit left that would give you the right to feel "cheated": You just don't have an inherent built-in right to anything beyond the software, which was delivered. A developer is stupid if he doesn't sell what could be sold, updates that is, but my guess is that that specific software was terminated because it generated no profit."

Well, that is pretty well certain in the Amiga market, although "profit" is hard to measure for part-time coders.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 64 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Roj on 10-Mar-2004 08:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Anonymous):
The thank you list at the bottom reads slightly more blue than red.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 65 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Roj on 10-Mar-2004 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
I second that the minute those words lose their significance in the current market. Just eliminating the words doesn't eliminate the problem unfortunately. It'll take a lot more effort than that.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 66 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 10-Mar-2004 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Roj):
"I second that the minute those words lose their significance in the current market. Just eliminating the words doesn't eliminate the problem unfortunately. It'll take a lot more effort than that."

The only thing that will reduce the infighting will be big sales for both Genesi and Eyetech.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 67 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 10-Mar-2004 12:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Roj):
But it doesn't read Bill Buck or Raquel Velasco doesn't it?
And isn't THAT be strange since "Genesi supports the developers in the community" and the fact that fxPaint lite and fxscanlite and VHI studio are part of the "superbundle"?

So a very educated guess is that

"I especially want to send a warm "thank you" to all those companies and individuals that have been responsible for this for the biggest disappointments in business, moral and humanity in my life - I will not name names here. "

applies to Genesi.

What business did Felix have with Hyperion or AmigaInc anyway?
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 68 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 10-Mar-2004 13:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Anonymous):
I meant your posting.
IOSPIRIT freezes its own AMIGA-developments : Comment 69 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 14-Mar-2004 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
You sound like one of those crap developers who want people to buy their buggy product, but don't want the resposibility of fixing it or refunding the cost every time a bug is found.

No wonder you're staying anonymous.

(Unless, of course, you happen to be the first programmer in the world to develop completely bug-free programs every time)
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