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[News] Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free!ANN.lu
Posted on 03-Sep-2004 09:57 GMT by takemehomegrandma103 comments
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A short news update regarding the Freescale SNDF Europe event: The list of the first 40 PPC developers who will join the SNDF Europe event and recieve complete Open Desktop Workstations (based on the Pegasos2), has now been sent to Freescale. Among those are AmigaZeux members as well as a number of DemoScene Teams. A list of the remaining 60 will be sent next week.

At 22-Aug-2004, Genesi made the following invitation public:

We would like to invite all interested PowerPC Developers to Smart Networks Developer Forum in Frankfurt on 30 September. You can attend the Tech Show in the morning and attend Workshops. In the afternoon we will have some special PegasosPPC oriented presentations, including a series of workshops on AltiVec. Lunch is included and developers who have been pre-approved and attend will be given an Open Desktop Workstation compliments of Freescale and Genesi. In exchange, developers are ask to file a monthly report on what they are doing with the machine - only basic guidelines for development will be given.

Please contact us if you are interested in developing for the platform and attending PegasosPPC Day at SNDF Europe.
(morphos-news.de, morphzone.org)

Any developer, interested in developing for any PPC OS platform, working with any project, seemed to be welcome to apply to these generous terms (look here, and here). Now the list of the first 40 people has been processed and sent to Freescale:

We submitted the list of 40 developers to Freescale today who will be hosted on 30 September at SNDF Europe in Frankfurt. Thanks to all of you who responded. We will be getting an information page up about the day's activities soon.

Next week, we will also be submitting an additional list of 60 developers who will also receive complete machines. We are very happy to announce that the AmigaZeux members will be included in this group, as well as a number of DemoScene Teams.

A big thanks to Freescale for their support on this developer program. In addition to the 100 machines going to developers in September, 75 more are being used to support the initial PegasosPPC pilot projects.
(http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=2&topic_id=2702&post_id=22961&viewmode=thread&order=0#22961)

Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 51 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 03-Sep-2004 15:47 GMT
This is good news. Congrats!!! :D

This could help expand the Amiga market. And cheaper Pegasos for every Amigan. :P
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 52 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 03-Sep-2004 15:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (i'm not here):
"and morphos is "une crotte de nez" "

DAMIT, I knew it was bad to love playing with these ;)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 53 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 03-Sep-2004 16:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
Ah, then you understand why I wanted to stay on topic by not going into why I felt sorry for Freescale. I mean, my reaction to this news article (ie that it made me feel sorry for Freescale) is perfectly on topic, while Fabio's attempt to turn it into another flamewar by asking about my reasons really isn't neccessary since it is something most should already know by now.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 54 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Sep-2004 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (JKD):
"Of course, anyone is free to comment on whether or not they think a Linux/PPC based plan would be successful against the might of x86 but that's a different subject."

Anyone who reads morphzone might spot that THE HIGH PRICE argument against PPC hardware might be about to change, who knows ...

:-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 55 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Sep-2004 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Sammy Nordström):
OK FABIO -- Let's not comment on that one! Let's drop it, yes? :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 56 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 03-Sep-2004 16:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Sammy Nordström):
>Ah, then you understand why I wanted to stay on topic by not going into why I felt sorry for Freescale.

Well, that's very common... First make accusation and then refuse to tell what the accusation is based on...

Probably you're just afraid, that in the end people would notice that it isn't based on ANYTHING really. And you feel it's better idea to leave that claim in the air as "non-proven fact"
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 57 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 03-Sep-2004 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
Little steps first....but yeah, that was encouraging too :D

Steve
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 58 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Blixth on 03-Sep-2004 16:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Sammy Nordström):
Sammy wrote :

- "Or are you saying that noone should be allowed to post unless we agree?"

You are absolutely free to comment on everything, but once in awhile it would good to see some properly on topic discussion from your side. Much of the endless loop-chats is really tireless and quiet off-topic.
Please relief the huge stone from your heart and explain why you feel so sorry for FreeScale more than make it sound like a low troll-attempt.

This is not only directed to you, there are plenty of others that keeps naging around the same old "songs" w/o really have one single point in mind and not contributes with any sort of constructivness by doing the comments.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 59 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 03-Sep-2004 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
> which one is more right about you or Fabio,

Hey hey, I would like it to be clear that I was just having some fun here :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 60 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 03-Sep-2004 18:24 GMT
Sounds quite nice, I hope we will see more PPC support this way.

OT:
Why not have a trolling area hare att ANN? A place for all trolls to hang out, so that we don't have to see all those far off topic comments.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 61 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Sep-2004 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Sammy Nordström):
Dunno, that nice ignore feature Henes proposed suddently sounds much more desirable:-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 62 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 04-Sep-2004 01:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (JKD):
I just would like you to notice and all the blue folks (as I'm of course) that if this statments would be take from the other 'force' it would be taken as BAF... no personal attacks, no nothing... just a matter of thought
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 63 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 04-Sep-2004 01:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
thanks whoever that they will be given away despite this silly 'fights'... so who will by the next round of beer!? ;b
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 64 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 04-Sep-2004 01:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Sammy Nordström):
> While these kind of silly crack-ups are most oftenly very OT, what's the harm?

hehe...
I was rambling Cranberries on their album 'everything is doing it so why can't we'! ;)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 65 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by timofonic on 04-Sep-2004 02:58 GMT
It's seems very interesting for Pegasos and MorphOS. Freescale is a subsidiary of Motorola, Inc. and has a very big market in more than 30 countries. I hope that this will do succeed the Pegasos platform being more knowed and then more selled...

OT: About moderation, I agree with a registration-only for post and delete all offtopic posts. I don't like see 300 comments and 70% being offtopic and trolling.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 66 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 04-Sep-2004 03:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (timofonic):
> OT: About moderation, I agree with a registration-only for post and delete all
> offtopic posts. I don't like see 300 comments and 70% being offtopic and
> trolling.

Oh my, it would be quite easy if it was not... but it could well start with yours as it (at least half) OT. hehehe
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 67 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 04-Sep-2004 04:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (pixie):
That's a fair enough comment :-D

Steve
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 68 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 04-Sep-2004 06:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (timofonic):
Absolutely right, and perhaps not everyone knew this, but Freescale are the ones behind the so called G4 CPU's, while IBM are the makers of the G3's (and G5's).
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 69 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Raul on 04-Sep-2004 06:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Sammy Nordström):
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 13:12:21
Poor Freescale, I they only knew...

___________--

That hyperions, amigainc and so on are stolers?
Sammy can you make ourselves a rich present?
Go out and stop wining about facts that your brain cannot accept-understand.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 70 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Raul on 04-Sep-2004 06:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fabio Alemagna):
> and I doubt very much that you wouldn't already know my opinion about everything
> related to Genesi.

Probably, but then why would Freescale care about your opinions? :-)
________

Prolly because they are IP proofs, while Sammy is only an ignorant talker.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 71 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Raul on 04-Sep-2004 06:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Sammy Nordström):
>Probably, but then why would Freescale care about your opinions? :-)

They probably don't, which is why I feel sorry for them
_________

Oh, how boreus ... you are the repository of knowledge, right?
I can inform you that you are the houce of limited minds.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 72 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 04-Sep-2004 07:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (GPL POLICE):
>anyway i would like to know which sceners got the machines.

TBL, Iris and Ephidrena already got theirs.

Next ones will be:
Potion, DCS, Creative Minds, Loonies, Haujobb, Floppy and MFX.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 73 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by timofonic on 04-Sep-2004 07:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (hooligan/dcs):
Let's see what will say in the official "press note", I like to know some more about all this from bbrv by example ;)

Genesi are doing a very smart move. First be with Freescale and selling more Pegasos, later SNDF and good demoscene and development groups having their Pegasos machines and Freescale teach to them for use Altivec! I hope MorphOS will have new great stuff soon ;)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 74 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 04-Sep-2004 12:26 GMT
This development is very good news for Genesi, PowerPC, and even the "Amiga community" in general since it demonstrates not only increasing acceptance of the Pegasos, but also the potential for alternative systems in general. In other words, this could be taken as a good omen for the AmigaOne market also (assuming that platform is up to the task also).

It's too bad that some sad individuals still need to post their pathetic little noises once again instead of realizing the positive aspects of what's happening.

Freescale obviously has all the information it needs about Genesi and the Pegasos. After all, they're investing many thousands of dollars, and corporations don't do this in an information vaccuum. No doubt they've also been contacted by fanatics eager to share their own versions of "the truth about Genesi". I feel sorry for the Freescale folks who have to receive this kind of mail, but by now probably it's being properly filtered.

Really, this is nothing but good news, and hopefully the next step in successful market growth. I think the word "loser" really does apply to people who can only criticize this kind of forward movement. For people with nothing but negative things to say, if the Pegasos isn't your choice, rather than wasting time and bandwidth flaming its progress, why not put that energy into positive efforts for your own preference instead?

-- gary_c
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 75 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Sep-2004 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (gary_c):
" they're investing many thousands of dollars"

To say the least! The price of one ODW is more than 1,300 dollars, and 100 x 1,300 = 130,000 dollars!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 76 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 04-Sep-2004 15:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Jupp3):
>>Ah, then you understand why I wanted to stay on topic by not going into why
>>I felt sorry for Freescale.
>
>Well, that's very common... First make accusation and then refuse to tell
>what the accusation is based on...

But for christ sake, simply stating that you feel sorry for someone is not making an accusation, just a reflection on the issue at hand. Most people in here, especially Fabio, already do know my reasons and I really don't see the point in going through all that again.

Why don't you just appreciate the fact that unlike Fabio, I'm trying to avoid another one of those long threads of mudslinging? You don't think that if I granted your wish to tell you my reasons would create another of those 500+ posting threads? I'm quite certain that it would, hence why I refrain myself from doing so.

I think that people need start start accepting that we have different opinions if we are to get along in here. Expecting that people who don't have the same opinions as yourself to simply shut up is not realistic. Everyone has to be able to speak their mind and those who keep questioning other people's opinions are the real trouble makers. I can understand when someone questions claims and accusations, but if someone simply states their reflection or opinion about something, it's better to simply leave it be if you don't want to have another flame fest.

Is the above something we all can agree to?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 77 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 04-Sep-2004 15:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Sammy Nordström):
>Expecting that people who don't have the same opinions as yourself to simply shut up is not realistic.

Well, many people expected you to state what your opinions are based on instead of shutting up :)

For you leaving that "If they only knew..." comment "in the air" (not proving if Genesi really is good or bad) might seem like victory, but to most people reading it, it simply means nothing.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 78 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 04-Sep-2004 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Jupp3):
Well, many of those who have reacted positively to these news haven't provided us with something to justify their opinion either, nor does it seem like anyone expect it. Then why do I have to justify my opinion?

I wrote "If they only knew..." for the sake of demonstrating that I'm leaving my reasons out for the sake of not starting another discussion. I hope this is now clear to everyone, especially Fabio.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 79 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Raul on 04-Sep-2004 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 78 (Sammy Nordström):
Posted by Sammy Nordström (213.114.41.6) on 04-Sep-2004 18:21:17
In Reply to Comment 77 (Jupp3):
>Well, many of those who have reacted positively to these news haven't provided >us with something to justify their opinion either, nor does it seem like >anyone expect it. Then why do I have to justify my opinion?

>I wrote "If they only knew..." for the sake of demonstrating that I'm leaving >my reasons out for the sake of not starting another discussion. I hope this is >now clear to everyone, especially Fabio.

It's clear toio everyone ... that you are an idiot.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 80 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 04-Sep-2004 17:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Raul):
Oh, don't set him off again - or we'll have another 100 posts from him!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 81 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 04-Sep-2004 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Raul):
For trying to avoid another Genesi related flamewar? Then so be it, oh reverenced peace negotiator.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 82 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 04-Sep-2004 17:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (XraalE):
Look who's talking, mr I-never-say-anything-that-may-provoke-another-flamewar. Is this your idea of trying to keep the peace in the forums?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 83 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2004 19:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 82 (Sammy Nordström):
The only thing that would stop flamewars would be a picture of your head on a stick in the ANN.lu front page. It would scare the fuck out of all other red/blue/
purple/green/cyan/magenta trolls...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 84 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 04-Sep-2004 20:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 82 (Sammy Nordström):
Difference is, Sammy, I don't manage to write 100 posts with out one single point to distinguish any of it. A rare skill, only found in a few individuals. You can turn a whole thread into you just arguing pointless and nitpicking semantics.

<XraalE> an orange is orange

<Samface> not necessarily, it might be in the dark...or sprayed yellow...or cooked...or...

(10 pages later)

...or eaten, or being digested, or discoloured by yak urine, or...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 85 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 05-Sep-2004 04:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (XraalE):
If you don't see any points with my posts it's because you don't see them. Furthermore, I don't post anymore than people reply to me. It's simple math; 100 posts from me would mean that someone has replied to me 100 times. But hey, I'm just a BAF and that's wy it's all my fault, right?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 86 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Pegasos.org on 05-Sep-2004 05:23 GMT
Very good job Genesi and Freescale!

This is exactly what our platform needs. Don't mind all the stupid off-topic
trolling from that group of maybe 20 people on both sides.


I hope these machines will be very well used and See you in Frankfurt! :)


/Ironfist
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 87 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2004 06:36 GMT
Freescale has now put a lot of ODW/Pegasos documentation online on their website! Here you will find information on MANY subjects:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeId=018rH3bTdGZj9N58582822
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 88 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 05-Sep-2004 07:07 GMT
I wonder where is "Willem v/d Werf", author of "The anti-AmigaOS4 troll" thread now? Sammy, you're the same retard as you always were.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 89 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 05-Sep-2004 07:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Sammy Nordström):
>I don't post anymore than people reply to me.

Will you reply to this post? :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 90 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 05-Sep-2004 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Sammy Nordström):
> Furthermore, I don't post anymore than people reply to me. It's simple math; 100
> posts from me would mean that someone has replied to me 100 times. But hey, I'm
> just a BAF and that's wy it's all my fault, right?

Except, Sammy, that those 100 replies could come from 100 different people, whilst your 100 posts are yours alone! :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 91 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 05-Sep-2004 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (hooligan/dcs):
and don't forget HAM // Software Failure :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 92 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by killtrolls on 05-Sep-2004 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Sammy Nordström):
> If you don't see any points with my posts it's because you don't see them

LOL, better "If ypu don't see any points with the posts of Sammy it's because are pointless" ;)

VOTE FOR BAN Sammy "samface" Nordtröm !
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 93 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2004 12:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (killtrolls):
Sammy Nerdström, get a brain!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 94 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 05-Sep-2004 13:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Anonymous):
For God's sake, please people stop replying to Sammy.

Nothing he ever writes has any meaning or relevance anyway, so 1. There's no point reading it and 2. There's even less point replying. He knows exactly what he's doing when he makes these posts and people fall for it every time. Just ignore him.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 95 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2004 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Lando):
But sometimes stupidity can be funny. But actually he isn't funny, so let's ignore him, he needs a good ban...

Since this moment the Anti-Sammy Group (AGG) will stop replying it...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 96 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 05-Sep-2004 18:18 GMT
Now we know how it looks when sammy wants to avoid flame.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 97 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 05-Sep-2004 19:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (brotheris):
Remove now... We had analysed his patern 2 years ago, it's well known. :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 98 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 06-Sep-2004 07:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Lando):
> He knows exactly what he's doing when he makes these posts

Dream on... :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 99 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by o1i on 06-Sep-2004 08:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Trizt):
> OT:
> Why not have a trolling area hare att ANN? A place for all trolls to hang
> out, so that we don't have to see all those far off topic comments.

Hmm, I thought I am already reading that place ;), so you say ann.lu
does not have a comments section?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 100 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 06-Sep-2004 10:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Fabio Alemagna):
No, it's more like 100 replies from you, but you're not a BAF so mostly you get away with it.
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