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At today's hearing of the Tribunal of Commerce in Paris a judgment was rendered declaring Pretory, S.A. in bankruptcy and appointing a receiver. The process finally will now begin to transfer Thendic-France's assets to Genesi SARL.
Our situation with Pretory S.A. has been a long and difficult one. In all matters we have cooperated with the French Government and agreed to close the Company in a coordinated and proper manner. Time will demonstrate that we have behaved properly and legally in all respects as shareholders and managers.
In no way will these matters effect Genesi. Finally, we are personally free to devote the time and resources we want to the Genesi.
Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill
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| Posted by DaveP on 19-Nov-2003 08:43 GMT | In reply to Comment 97 (gary_c):
Gary
Im going to meander a bit before getting to the point, but it will be worth the winding road I promise.
For a few days now we have been testing out the FreeCiv service on amigaworld.net and it has been going well, we have skilled gamers running on all platforms including AmigaOS, MorphOS, QNX, Linux and Windows joining in and focussing on the game and cracking a few jokes. Its been fun and in the spirit of co-operation you would not really know who was "blue" or "red" or any of that tedious crap. "Red" and "Blue" people alike chipping in to get the server running smoothly and giving advice on game settings. Lovely. Like it /used/ to be.
Last night it all changed - but only for a short while.
We had one player who joined, who shall remain nameless join and kept spamming the FreeCiv party line with "DaveP The Red Troll". Then proceeded to make tedious partisan remark after remark.
If I was the censorship advocate that people make me out to be or the ogre that some ( yes I did get logs of that - blush away J ;-) ) make me out to be then I would have disconnected him from the game as the server admin immediately.
He had several warnings and eventually settled down like the rest of the players to discussing the game only. But before this happenned one player who would be considered his political bedfellow also piped in and told him to make it about the game only. The game proceeded till we had a server hiccup ( brought on by running log analysis concurrently with the game - race condition don't do it prospective FreeCiv server admins! ) and he never rejoined.
OK, so where are we now?
Yes I have recieved personal correspondance from Bill Buck recently and in the distant past, some intended to resolve differences, some complaining about the tone I adopted on some posting ( mostly it comes down to a misunderstanding and poor wording ). I also recieved an invitation to contribute to a debate on morphos-news.de with two objectives stated in the mail:
1. Drown out a bottom feeder ( troll ).
2. Give input on the subject.
Given (1) was in fact a total troll I had no problem with doing the drowning out.
Ok so now where are we? Ok lets move on to the subject of organised postings.
Its no secret ( I have logs and Im sure many others do ) that IRC chatrooms are where people discuss stuff, let off steam and sometimes discuss whether or not something should be posted. It is also a place where breaking stories are discussed and what the reaction will be.
Email is used for this also.
I believe that it is entirely possible ( partly based on what I saw in part 1 of this monologue ) that a lot of very juvenile people decide to take it on themselves to inform each other about debates that are not going their way and call on assistance in ways that range from harmless to well, organised spammage. I do not think that they need any encouragement from "on high" in the slightest.
I also think that there are a reasonable number of level headed people that see this going on and don't really think much of it who sometimes may comment to try and let them know its really quite sad. I base this partly on what I saw in part 1 last night.
The fact is, I come back to something I said over a year ago, the tents are pitched VERY close to each other and there are a lot of "kiddies" ( mental age ) in the tents who think it is amusing to get up to all sorts of jolly japes and "piss" in other tents. Stir the shit. Troll. Flamebait in an organised way. Also same "kiddies" go around the net on chatrooms and spread bullshit stories about other people. As a victim of more than one of those stories ( that I was responsible for organising an exodus from Amiga.org ) and even impersonations I don't find them funny when perpetrated by either side.
So yes, I can confirm what Gary sayes and add to it as I have done above. But I can also point out that as I saw last night, peer pressure is the key to getting these little pricks in line, sorted out so that we can help each other out, discuss and debate civilly and sure lose tempers once in a while but as soon as its turned into a schoolyard chant - game over.
Perhaps once these people that behave like that guy did last night realise how lowered in respect they make themselves look when they do that, get a bit embarassed when they recall it and this stops them doing it themselves.
Gary, I was also impressed to hear your admission that the idea had been floated about once before. This is good because I have been sent, in the past, copies of correspondance in the past that contained a similar dialogue to that you describe.
I think thats everything about straight now.
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