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osopinion: Close That Open Hardware! : Comment 147 of 169ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 15-Jun-2002 19:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 146 (Janne Sirén):
Janne, your use of the word "factual" when referencing the petition is starting to annoy me almost as much as the use of the word FUD annoys Seehund. There is very little, if anything factual in the petition other than Amiga Inc. has a licensing policy which they've identified for quality assurance and anti-piracy measures. Here are just a few tidbits from the petition that I would classify as mere speculation.
"We think that the above will seriously hurt AmigaOS users, the POP/PPC hardware market and thus ultimately you, Amiga Inc."
Speculation. I consider the policy as a move forward that will deliver a quality product with support to AmigaOS users. Is this hurtful? No, but it's my speculation. But being part of the AmigaOne developer list, I'm seeing evidence that supports I'm correct in believing support for licensed boards will be available.
"The POP/PPC hardware market, its development and competition will be hurt because it would have to be artificially split into an "Amiga" and an "everybody else" part, instead of growing with users regardless of OS"
The split in the Amiga community right now is pretty much real and there isn't a reason to pussy-foot around the fact the Amiga community is grouped into factions. Frankly, my speculation is that Amiga is looking at a bigger market than just POP/PPC. I really did like the idea of VP and the possiblity of having an OS that was totally hardware independent.
"AmigaOS users will be hurt because we unnecessarily lose options"
There is only one option we've lost right now and that is the Pegasos board. Please identify what other options have been lost. I would classify this statement as FUD, if not FUD then it's extremely biased speculation.
"Just don't deprive us of options for no technological reason when it comes to hardware."
Again, someone is miffed that there are no present plans to run OS 4.0 on the Pegasos.
"Amiga Inc. will lose revenue since you'll only make money on the very few hard-core AmigaOS users who can be expected to buy bundled and licensed hardware together with AmigaOS at premium prices."
Again more speculation, as the statement is too ambiguous and just meant as a jab against Amiga users with respect to price. After all is said and done, the cost of my developer board and OS will be less than half of what I paid for my brain damaged CSPPC. Practically a bargain in the Amiga world! Heck, it even costs less than what I paid for my C64 + 1541 drive back in the early 80's.
After looking at the petition again, I don't see any real facts, just someone's speculation. Time will tell whether or not the originator of the petition's crystal ball or Amiga Inc's crystal ball is telling the correct story.
There's always three sides to every conflict....there's my side, your side, and the truth somewhere in the middle.
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#148 Janne Sirén #149 TBone
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